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Educational discounts (was Re: The trouble with the Amiga) [message #293836] Sun, 07 December 1986 13:49 Go to next message
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Originally posted by: ins_adjb@jhunix.UUCP (Daniel Jay Barrett)
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Posted: Sun Dec  7 13:49:30 1986
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}}Oh Commodore...if you only seeded Amigas here at MIT like apple and ibm do,
}}things would really get rolling..... .    MIT sells poor unsuspecting
}}freshmen IBM's and Apples at special discount prices without even informing
}}them of the Amiga and its capability......wanna work out a deal ????
}}Our Amiga group here is already 90 strong, with no incentives at all.
}}                                        A Gradual Student at MIT
}
}Yes! Yes!  Commodore, get your act together.  The largest groups of Amiga
}owners I have seen have been college students.  Get an educational discount
}system going(go for the high schools as well).  It would do more for the
}Amiga than anything else I know.
}					Wonko the Sane

	This would be a fantastic idea!  Commodore, you are losing
lots of prospective student buyers to Apple, here at Hopkins.  The
current offer is something like $1695 for a Mac Plus with Imagewriter II
printer (can you say "below dealer cost"?)  This semester, there have been
at least 2-3 visits from Apple representatives, showing off their
products.
	If Commodore was doing this with the Amiga, I'd buy one today.

  -- Dan
Re: Educational discounts (was Re: The trouble with the Amiga) [message #293848 is a reply to message #293836] Mon, 08 December 1986 00:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: ali@navajo.STANFORD.EDU (Ali Ozer)
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Posted: Mon Dec  8 00:46:40 1986
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In article <4098@jhunix.UUCP> ins_adjb@jhunix.UUCP (Daniel Jay Barrett) 
writes:
 > }}Oh Commodore...if you only seeded Amigas here at MIT like apple and ibm do,
 > }}things would really get rolling..... .    MIT sells poor unsuspecting
 > }}freshmen IBM's and Apples at special discount prices without even informing
 > }}them of the Amiga and its capability......wanna work out a deal ????
 > 
 > }Yes! Yes!  Commodore, get your act together.  The largest groups of Amiga
 > }owners I have seen have been college students.  Get an educational discount
 > }system going(go for the high schools as well).  
 > 
 > 	This would be a fantastic idea!  Commodore, you are losing
 > lots of prospective student buyers to Apple, here at Hopkins.  

Well, I vote a big YES too! Here at Stanford Apple and IBM are all
over the place. And (as I mentioned in an earlier msg before), there are
educational applications where the Mac and the IBM can't even dream of
competing with the Amiga. (I was talking about use of Amigas in networks
and OS classes, I've got several positive and no negative replies to that
query.) Another area is graphics --- Here at Stanford graduate students
taking CS248, graduate level graphics, use INTERPRETED PASCAL on Macs
to do their graphics assignments. My friend convinced the prof that 
she wanted to do the assignments in C on an Amiga, and (although she was
learning C and Amiga at the same time) had an easier time writing the programs
that most of the other students. Not to mention the fact the the programs
on the Amiga ended up being much more spectacular...

I want to see the Amiga in my bookstore! I would personally go hang around
the bookstore just so I could demo off the machine.

Ali Ozer, ali@navajo
Re: Educational discounts (was Re: The trouble with the Amiga) [message #293883 is a reply to message #293836] Tue, 09 December 1986 10:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Without quoting all the preceeding articles, I just want to point out that
the Amiga is getting little publicity here at UofT either.  There are sweet
deals with IBM and Apple...a little of the same would go a long way.

Michael Wagner (wagner@utcs)
Re: Educational discounts (was Re: The trouble with the Amiga) [message #293888 is a reply to message #293836] Tue, 09 December 1986 20:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: lachac@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU (Gerard Lachac)
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Posted: Tue Dec  9 20:49:08 1986
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	Well since everyone else is speaking, you might as well add Rutgers
University to this list.  If there was a rep on campus, and a decent discount
like we have with the Mac(argh!) and the IBM (NO comment!) we would have
a lot more users...
Re: Educational discounts (was Re: The trouble with the Amiga) [message #293930 is a reply to message #293836] Thu, 11 December 1986 18:11 Go to previous message
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Originally posted by: lachac@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU (Gerard Lachac)
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In article <662@ssc-bee.UUCP> eve@ssc-bee.UUCP (Michael Eve) writes:
 > Let's just have one pricing policy for everyone.  No more privileged groups.


	This would be nice if everyone did it.  However if you were a college
student with a small income, and you could get a Mac of IBM package (printer,
etc.) for less than an Amiga package, wouldn't you?  I mean if we are ONLY
talking money, a computer is just like any other computer...
Re: Educational discounts [message #293938 is a reply to message #293836] Thu, 11 December 1986 18:06 Go to previous message
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Originally posted by: ali@navajo.STANFORD.EDU (Ali Ozer)
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Posted: Thu Dec 11 18:06:10 1986
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In article <662@ssc-bee.UUCP> eve@ssc-bee.UUCP (Michael Eve) writes:
 > Although the Apple educational discounts may have put a large number of
 > Apples into students' hands, I'm not convinced it did Apple any good in
 > the larger market.  In fact, it raised considerable ire among the general
 > computing population.  It seemed like almost everyone (students, developers,
 > teachers, etc) could get a fantastic deal on the Mac while John Q. Public
 > could walk into his neighborhood computer store and get fantastically
 > screwed.
 > Let's just have one pricing policy for everyone.  No more privileged groups.

I agree. In fact, the Amiga's current price is so good that if it was to
be sold in the campus bookstore WITHOUT any further discounts it still would
look real good beside the Macs and the IBMs WITH discounts. I just wish
Commodore would try to make deals with the schools such that we start seeing
Amigas in the bookstores and labs! I guess when I said "educational discounts"
I really did not mean discounts for students but special arrangements that
would make the Amiga as desirable to the universities as the Mac and the IBM.
As it is, an average student goes to the bookstore to check out the computers,
and is presented with 3 different Macs and 3 different IBMs, and makes his/her
choice between those machines, without even going off campus to see the other
alternatives. After all, the bookstore is giving a discount, right, so 
there won't be anything better/more cost effective available outside!

Ali Ozer, ali@navajo.stanford.edu
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