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New V1.2G1 EMACS [message #293702] Tue, 02 December 1986 23:46 Go to next message
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Originally posted by: hsgj@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu (Dan Green)
Article-I.D.: batcompu.1690
Posted: Tue Dec  2 23:46:24 1986
Date-Received: Wed, 3-Dec-86 06:27:36 EST
Organization: Theory Center, Cornell U., Ithaca NY
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Keywords: EMACS V1.2 Gamma 1


Hello Anyuone,
   Please bear with me as there is lots of line noise in my brain.

Anywyas, I just got v1.2 G1, and I noticed that the new EMACS has
two bugs.  At least, it has burned me two different ways, so I want
to know if anyone else experienced these problems.  First:
1) If you go to the top of a file, EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE when you
do the gGlobal Replace command (eg ESC-R) after it does this it
will "lock up", in other words you input no long inputs and other
things like this.  Second:
2) Occasionaly, again EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE when you go to the top
of an empty buffer and do an insert (eg ^X^I filename) the status
line says "reading filename" but then it locks up.

 Ok, I know these ocur only sporadically because I use EMACS all
the days and its only once in a while that it locks up, but generally
due to the above towo things (in fact ONLUY due to the above two,
ie it doesn';t lock up on anything else).

Question - is my emacs fragged, or has anyone else had the same
events happen??  Please reply via e-mail because I am FLAT (Fat,
Lazy, And Tired).

By the way, the new release of kick/work is in most respects
really nice.  Infominder is tres cool (thats French for: tres cool).
I also love the massive docs and the fact that Amiga.lib now has
int math entry points (ie IMulU, IDivU, etc).  This is good,
cause.... In the old days if you wanted to dispense (that means get
rid of, folks) with Lattice LC.lib and just use Astartup and Amiga.lib
you could get a MUCH SHORTER EXECUTABLE but you lost all int mult
and div cause lattice in its wisdom has functions do them!!!  But
now you can replace * and / with the IMul and IDiv and have the fun
benefits of mul/div without lc.lib overhead.  Good eats, cheap prices.

Again, if you you have experienced new Emacs lockups, could you let
me know?  Much thanks.
-- Dan Green  ..!ihnp4!cornell!batcomputer!hsgj

-- 
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Re: New V1.2G1 EMACS [message #293715 is a reply to message #293702] Wed, 03 December 1986 13:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gary is currently offline  gary
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Article-I.D.: mit-eddi.4143
Posted: Wed Dec  3 13:38:28 1986
Date-Received: Wed, 3-Dec-86 22:04:56 EST
References: <1690@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu>
Organization: MIT EE/CS Computer Facility, Cambridge, MA
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Keywords: EMACS V1.2 Gamma 1
Summary: Yep, it crashes for me too.

In article <1690@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu>, hsgj@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu (Dan Green) writes:
 >  Anywyas, I just got v1.2 G1, and I noticed that the new EMACS has
 >  two bugs.  At least, it has burned me two different ways, so I want
 >  to know if anyone else experienced these problems.  First:
 >  1) If you go to the top of a file, EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE when you
 >  do the gGlobal Replace command (eg ESC-R) after it does this it
 >  will "lock up", in other words you input no long inputs and other
 >  things like this.  Second:

  Yep.  This has burned me several times until I finally deleted it and
reinstalled my beta 4 version.  However, it doesn't require you to be at the
top of the file.  Just doing a search and replace will sometimes hang emacs.

 >  2) Occasionaly, again EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE when you go to the top
 >  of an empty buffer and do an insert (eg ^X^I filename) the status
 >  line says "reading filename" but then it locks up.

  I don't use ^X^I so I haven't seen this one, but you're probably right.
C-A, what happened?

	Gary
Re: New V1.2G1 EMACS [message #293778 is a reply to message #293702] Fri, 05 December 1986 09:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: andy@cbmvax.cbm.UUCP (Andy Finkel)
Article-I.D.: cbmvax.1058
Posted: Fri Dec  5 09:34:17 1986
Date-Received: Fri, 5-Dec-86 21:33:38 EST
References: <1690@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu> <4143@mit-eddie.MIT.EDU>
Reply-To: andy@cbmvax.UUCP (Andy Finkel)
Organization: Commodore Technology, West Chester, PA
Lines: 30
Keywords: EMACS V1.2 Gamma 1

In article <4143@mit-eddie.MIT.EDU> gary@mit-eddie.MIT.EDU (Gary Samad) writes:
 > In article <1690@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu>, hsgj@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu (Dan Green) writes:
 >>  Anywyas, I just got v1.2 G1, and I noticed that the new EMACS has
 >>  two bugs.  At least, it has burned me two different ways, so I want
 >>  to know if anyone else experienced these problems.  First:
 >   I don't use ^X^I so I haven't seen this one, but you're probably right.
 > C-A, what happened?
 > 
 > 	Gary


I'm checking into these bugs, and would appreciate hearing about any more
that anyone finds (by mail or by posting) as well as enhancement requests
because I am working on the final ('supported') version for the upcoming
software toolkit.

			thanks, people.
				andy finkel
-- 

			andy finkel
			Commodore/Amiga
			{ihnp4|seismo|allegra}!cbmvax!andy
		or	 pyramid!amiga!andy

Any expressed opinions are mine; but feel free to share.

I disclaim all responsibilities, all shapes, all sizes, all colors.

"Never make anything simple and efficient when it can be complex and wonderful."
Re: New V1.2G1 EMACS [message #293788 is a reply to message #293702] Sat, 06 December 1986 00:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: dpz@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU (David P. Zimmerman)
Article-I.D.: topaz.7535
Posted: Sat Dec  6 00:53:04 1986
Date-Received: Sat, 6-Dec-86 03:40:05 EST
References: <1690@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu> <4143@mit-eddie.MIT.EDU> <1058@cbmvax.cbmvax.cbm.UUCP>
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
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Keywords: EMACS V1.2 Gamma 1

 >  I'm checking into these bugs, and would appreciate hearing about any more
 >  that anyone finds (by mail or by posting) as well as enhancement requests
 >  because I am working on the final ('supported') version for the upcoming
 >  software toolkit.
 >  
 >  			thanks, people.
 >  				andy finkel

Andy, please, please, please, I'll be your friend forever, put in
*real* GNU compatibility!  As in ^XO to go to other window, ESC-Q to
justify paragraph, ESC-X, read .emacs on startup, etc, etc.  Emacs
1.2G1 is *great*, but...

						-dpz-
-- 
David P. Zimmerman	"When I'm having fun, the world doesn't exist."

Arpa: dpz@rutgers.rutgers.edu
Uucp: ...{harvard | seismo | pyramid}!rutgers!dpz
Re: New V1.2G1 EMACS [message #293855 is a reply to message #293702] Sat, 06 December 1986 13:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: andy@cbmvax.cbm.UUCP (Andy Finkel)
Article-I.D.: cbmvax.1065
Posted: Sat Dec  6 13:57:43 1986
Date-Received: Mon, 8-Dec-86 21:07:31 EST
References: <1690@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu> <4143@mit-eddie.MIT.EDU> <1058@cbmvax.cbmvax.cbm.UUCP> <7535@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU>
Reply-To: andy@cbmvax.UUCP (Andy Finkel)
Organization: Commodore Technology, West Chester, PA
Lines: 22
Keywords: EMACS V1.2 Gamma 1

In article <7535@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU> dpz@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU (David P. Zimmerman) writes:
 > Andy, please, please, please, I'll be your friend forever, put in
 > *real* GNU compatibility!
 > David P. Zimmerman	"When I'm having fun, the world doesn't exist."

It's getting (added already) key rebinding; an appropriate startup
script will change the commands to match GNU.  If I get enough time
to untar the GNU files, maybe I'll even make the script myself.

				andy
-- 

			andy finkel
			Commodore/Amiga
			{ihnp4|seismo|allegra}!cbmvax!andy
		or	 pyramid!amiga!andy

Any expressed opinions are mine; but feel free to share.

I disclaim all responsibilities, all shapes, all sizes, all colors.

"Never make anything simple and efficient when it can be complex and wonderful."
Re: New V1.2G1 EMACS [message #293886 is a reply to message #293702] Tue, 09 December 1986 02:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mwm is currently offline  mwm
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Article-I.D.: jade.1864
Posted: Tue Dec  9 02:24:32 1986
Date-Received: Tue, 9-Dec-86 11:17:48 EST
References: <1690@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu> <4143@mit-eddie.MIT.EDU> <1058@cbmvax.cbmvax.cbm.UUCP> <7535@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU>
Sender: usenet@jade.BERKELEY.EDU
Reply-To: mwm@eris.BERKELEY.EDU (Mike (Don't have strength to leave) Meyer)
Organization: Missionaria Phonibalonica
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Keywords: EMACS V1.2 Gamma 1

In article <7535@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU> dpz@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU (David P. Zimmerman) writes:
 > Andy, please, please, please, I'll be your friend forever, put in
 > *real* GNU compatibility!  As in ^XO to go to other window, ESC-Q to
 > justify paragraph, ESC-X, read .emacs on startup, etc, etc.  Emacs
 > 1.2G1 is *great*, but...

Why wait? mg1a is available NOW from Fred Fish, and has all those
features. Plus C-x 4 [OFB], C-h for help, etc., etc., etc. The menu
system also includes the browser [*BUG ALERT* See below]. The mouse
interface is MUCH more powerful. Mic K[a-z]* has added the ability to
change fonts, colors and renditions, after he made all the rest of it
work well.

The only thing where mg1a looses is that it runs in the workbench
window, so you can't change from interlaced to non-interlaced; you
have to live with whatever mode the screen runs in. But you get
source, so you can change that.

Oh, yeah - you also get the VMS, 4.[23]BSD, sysV, and OS/9-68K sources
on the fish disk. So you can run it on part of the other systems you
may be running. And yes, it runs on a Cray.

Andy, from your response, you may have the mg1a shar files (you're
surely not going to unshar full GNU, are you?). If so, you'll note
that part of the code carries my copyright (among others). Please
contact me before using that code.

BUG ALERT: between the Beta 0.4 and the final release, a bug slipped
into the Amiga browser code: If you try opening a file from a menu
other than the last, the system will hang. Fixes to be posted soon, I
hope!

	  

		
		
		
Re: New V1.2G1 EMACS [message #293911 is a reply to message #293702] Tue, 09 December 1986 02:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: jesup@steinmetz.steinmetz.UUCP (Jesup)
Article-I.D.: steinmet.1033
Posted: Tue Dec  9 02:01:11 1986
Date-Received: Wed, 10-Dec-86 10:47:03 EST
References: <1690@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu> <4143@mit-eddie.MIT.EDU> <1058@cbmvax.cbmvax.cbm.UUCP> <7535@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU>
Reply-To: jesup@kbsvax.UUCP (Jesup)
Organization: General Electric CRD, Schenectady, NY
Lines: 13
Keywords: EMACS V1.2 Gamma 1
Summary: bug in emacs

[Andy Finkel writes that he wants bug reports]

Please fix the ^t problem.  It is supposed to switch the last two characters
(the two before the cursor), not the one before the cursor and the one under
it.
Other than that I think it's real nice (now if only it had mlisp macros :-).
Also (if it hasn't already been fixed) when you go to interlace mode, it
takes you to the bottom of the file.  It would be nice to stay in the same
place.
	Randell Jesup
	jesup@ge-crd.arpa
	jesup@steinmetz.uucp
	rjesup (bix)
Re: New V1.2G1 EMACS [message #293942 is a reply to message #293702] Wed, 10 December 1986 05:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mwm is currently offline  mwm
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Article-I.D.: jade.1875
Posted: Wed Dec 10 05:27:27 1986
Date-Received: Sun, 14-Dec-86 00:11:22 EST
References: <1690@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu> <4143@mit-eddie.MIT.EDU>
Sender: usenet@jade.BERKELEY.EDU
Reply-To: mwm@eris.BERKELEY.EDU (Mike (Don't have strength to leave) Meyer)
Organization: Missionaria Phonibalonica
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Keywords: EMACS V1.2 Gamma 1

In article <1033@steinmetz.steinmetz.UUCP> jesup@kbsvax.UUCP (Jesup) writes:
 > Please fix the ^t problem.  It is supposed to switch the last two characters
 > (the two before the cursor), not the one before the cursor and the one under
 > it.

I haven't looked at the docs, but whether C-t toggles the two
characters before the cursor or the one it's one and the one before it
depends on which emacs you've got. The behavior you describe is what
most variants of microemacs do. Likewise, whether C-t moves the cursor
forward a character depends on which editor you've got. I've seen
three of the four possible behaviors. Oh, yeah - mg1a does what you
want, naturally! [And yes, I just checked it in this letter :-]

 > Other than that I think it's real nice (now if only it had mlisp macros :-).

Ah, but the result would be so big. After I get os/9 and 4.5Meg, I'll
work on porting GNU :-).

	  

		
		
		
Re: New V1.2G1 EMACS [message #293947 is a reply to message #293702] Wed, 10 December 1986 10:05 Go to previous message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: andy@cbmvax.UUCP
Article-I.D.: cbmvax.1092
Posted: Wed Dec 10 10:05:14 1986
Date-Received: Sun, 14-Dec-86 02:07:27 EST
References: <1690@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu> <4143@mit-eddie.MIT.EDU>
Reply-To: andy@cbmvax.UUCP (Andy Finkel)
Organization: Commodore Technology, West Chester, PA
Lines: 31
Keywords: EMACS V1.2 Gamma 1

In article <1864@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> mwm@eris.BERKELEY.EDU (Mike (Don't have strength to leave) Meyer) writes:
 > In article <7535@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU> dpz@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU (David P. Zimmerman) writes:
 >> Andy, please, please, please, I'll be your friend forever, put in
 >> *real* GNU compatibility!  As 
 > Andy, from your response, you may have the mg1a shar files (you're
 > surely not going to unshar full GNU, are you?). 
Actually, I don't think I've got the mg1a shar files handy;  I was
talking about the full GNU tar files. The mg1a files might take less time...
All I'm after is the key bindings so I can make a file that
will rebind this emacs into a GNU-like emacs.  

 > If so, you'll note that part of the code carries my copyright (among others).
 > Please contact me before using that code.
I always respect copyrights!  I don't want to use copyrighted code ... just
want to find out what keys are bound to what in real GNU emacs.

 > 	

	andy
-- 

			andy finkel
			Commodore/Amiga
			{ihnp4|seismo|allegra}!cbmvax!andy
		or	 pyramid!amiga!andy

Any expressed opinions are mine; but feel free to share.

I disclaim all responsibilities, all shapes, all sizes, all colors.

"Never make anything simple and efficient when it can be complex and wonderful."
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