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Re: Digest for g3-5-list@googlegroups.com - 1 update in 1 topic [message #287464] Thu, 09 April 2015 16:37 Go to next message
David Sutherland is currently offline  David Sutherland
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It might be easier just to buy a PCI USB 2.0 card if you can get them
still. The one's I had success with in the G4 Quicksilver's had "NEC"
chipsets. That is important as the OS had drivers built in for that.

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Re: Digest for g3-5-list@googlegroups.com - 1 update in 1 topic [message #287465 is a reply to message #287464] Thu, 09 April 2015 16:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bruce Johnson is currently offline  Bruce Johnson
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> On Apr 9, 2015, at 1:37 PM, David Sutherland <turnkit@gmail.com> wrote:
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> It might be easier just to buy a PCI USB 2.0 card if you can get them still. The one's I had success with in the G4 Quicksilver's had "NEC" chipsets. That is important as the OS had drivers built in for that.


Any PCI USB2 card that offers OHCI will work out of the box; since this was also the requirement for Windows 7, pretty much any USB2.0 card on the market will work.

USB1.1 cards were a different story.

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Re: best wifi solution for powermac Digital Audio [message #291024 is a reply to message #287465] Mon, 01 June 2015 16:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Neil Hughes is currently offline  Neil Hughes
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On 04/09/2015 09:51 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
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>> On Apr 9, 2015, at 1:37 PM, David Sutherland <turnkit@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> It might be easier just to buy a PCI USB 2.0 card if you can get them still. The one's I had success with in the G4 Quicksilver's had "NEC" chipsets. That is important as the OS had drivers built in for that.
>
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> Any PCI USB2 card that offers OHCI will work out of the box; since this was also the requirement for Windows 7, pretty much any USB2.0 card on the market will work.
>
> USB1.1 cards were a different story.
>

I've only just caught up with this thread....I never realized that you
could use off-the-shelf USB2 PCI cards with PPC Macs.

I recently bought a couple of Konig (NEC chipset, 4 external ports, one
internal) USB2 cards off Amazon to use with OpenBSD (one is now in an
old HP minitower with a motherboard ATI USB chipset that is not
recognized), so when I read this thread I went off and swapped the 2nd
Konig card for the unemployed Grappler SCSI in my B&W G3 PowerMac.

It works fine under 10.4 - System Profiler reports an EHCI USB bus.

The HP flatbed scanner works fine, though I'm not seeing any noticeable
speed-up.

A 16GB USB2 memory stick reads/writes at about 40 Mb/s, compared with 5
Mb/s on an internal USB port and the USB1.1 Belkin card I added many
years ago. That's marginally faster than on my 2009 Mac mini running
Mavericks, before the latter's caching kicks in.

Thanks David & Bruce.
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Re: best wifi solution for powermac Digital Audio [message #291025 is a reply to message #291024] Mon, 01 June 2015 17:49 Go to previous message
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> I've only just caught up with this thread....I never realized that you
> could use off-the-shelf USB2 PCI cards with PPC Macs.

A PCI solution which is often overlooked is this:

1) a PCI to Mini-PCI adapter which has one or more SMC connectors (for
antennae), only one is actually needed, and two is supported, but not
three,

For example:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WiFi-54-108b-g-Mini-PCI-To-PCI-Conve rter-Adapter-Wireless-Card-New-/181697029741

2) a Dell (or other, but Dell seems to work best) Mini-PCI 802.11b/g or
802.11a/b/g or 802.11a/b/g/n card,

For example:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DELL-LATITUDE-D400-D410-D500-D510-D6 00-D610-D800-D810-WIRELESS-WIFI-CARD-DW1370-/300678594593

The adapter shown has one antenna connector, and one is really all that is
needed.

An antenna is also required, and some ePay sellers are including antennae
with their cards.

The beauty of this solution is the Dell card is seen as an Airport Extreme
card OOTB by MacOS X.

It MAY be necessary to twiddle with the IO80211Family.kext to see some
cards as Airport Extreme, specifically the AppleAirPortBrcm43224.kext
plug-in, but most seem to work.

The above is a very cost-effective way to get real-deal Apple-compatible
Wi-Fi, without the use of drivers, as MacOS X already includes the
necessary driver.

I believe the Dell cards are actually using the Broadcomm 4318 chip set.



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