Article-I.D.: PANDA.12175610187.10.MRC
Posted: Thu Jan 16 01:24:19 1986
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A $400 computer is a toy.
A $400 computer that costs $800 is an expensive toy.

The point is that instead of making the ST sell for $400 they should keep
the price the same and improve the ST.

I have somewhat more in mind by "improving the ST" than adding $35 worth
of RAMs.
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Article-I.D.: rocheste.14622
Posted: Fri Jan 17 10:56:21 1986
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[color=blue]>  A $400 computer is a toy.[/color]
[color=blue]>  A $400 computer that costs $800 is an expensive toy.[/color]
[color=blue]>  [/color]
[color=blue]>  The point is that instead of making the ST sell for $400 they should keep[/color]
[color=blue]>  the price the same and improve the ST.[/color]
[color=blue]>  [/color]
An $800 computer selling for $400 is an inexpensive computer.  And if its' an
ST, its' one hell of a toy.

A $400 Mack?  Now THAT's an expensive computer!
Four hundred dollars is what I've heard it costs Apple to make the Mack.

Ray

Article-I.D.: eneevax.491
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In article <14622@rochester.UUCP> ray@rochester.UUCP writes:
[color=blue]> An $800 computer selling for $400 is an inexpensive computer.  And if its' an[/color]
[color=blue]> ST, its' one hell of a toy.[/color]
[color=blue]> [/color]
[color=blue]> A $400 Mack?  Now THAT's an expensive computer![/color]
[color=blue]> Four hundred dollars is what I've heard it costs Apple to make the Mack.[/color]
[color=blue]> [/color]
[color=blue]> Ray[/color]

But don't forget: you also get a monitor and a disk drive for that price.
Quoting different configurations is a good way to become confused (as well
as an unethical but surprisingly effective bargaining weapon against car
dealers...)

-dave

-- 
David Hsu	Communication & Signal Processing Lab, EE Department
	University of Maryland,  College Park, MD 20742
hsu@eneevax.umd.edu  {seismo,allegra}!umcp-cs!eneevax!hsu  CF522@UMDD.BITNET
"Vern Vern Vern Vern Vern Vern Vern, you've done it now, buddy..."
			-Ernest P. Worrell

Article-I.D.: inuxd.837
Posted: Mon Jan 20 15:24:52 1986
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[color=blue]>  A $400 computer is a toy.[/color]
[color=blue]>  A $400 computer that costs $800 is an expensive toy.[/color]
[color=blue]>  [/color]
[color=blue]>  The point is that instead of making the ST sell for $400 they should keep[/color]
[color=blue]>  the price the same and improve the ST.[/color]
[color=blue]>  [/color]
[color=blue]>  I have somewhat more in mind by "improving the ST" than adding $35 worth[/color]
[color=blue]>  of RAMs.[/color]
[color=blue]>  -------[/color]

Ok Sherman, set the Wayback for 15 years.
Now, it is 1971 and I have an ST selling for $400.
Is this a toy?  What are your standards?  More to the point,
what is your definition of a toy?  If I price a Cray at $400,
does it suddenly become a toy?

Just curious,

Donald Keen 
AT&T Consumer Products

AT&T is not curious; they couldn't care less about any replies
or my questions.

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Posted: Tue Jan 21 21:46:48 1986
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In article <837@inuxd.UUCP> keen@inuxd.UUCP (D Keen) writes:

[color=blue]> what is your definition of a toy?  If I price a Cray at $400,[/color]
[color=blue]> does it suddenly become a toy?[/color]
[color=blue]> [/color]
From what one person said here earlier, we can see that a Cray at
any price already is a toy.  It has external power supplies ... :-)
--
Tim Smith       sdcrdcf!ism780c!tim || ima!ism780!tim || ihnp4!cithep!tim

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/* Written 12:24 am Jan 16, 1986 by MRC%PANDA@SUMEX-AIM.ARPA in net.micro.atari */
A $400 computer is a toy.
A $400 computer that costs $800 is an expensive toy.
/* End of text from net.micro.atari */

Would you buy the ST at a store that bought them for $400 and sold them to
you for $2000 in a fancy plush room with Windham Hill music piped in?
(Of course not, because you know the hoi polloi can get them for $400...but
what if you didn't know?)

It is function that determines toy status, not price--unless you're of the
sort that judges quality by price.

						James Jones