| The New Star Wars. [message #244237] |
Wed, 30 November 2011 14:00  |
Duggy
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Often you see reviews or psters quoting reviews saying that some new
film is "the New Star Wars", "Star Wars for the X0's" or "Out Star
Wars Star Wars" or such.
What films have you seen it for... and what films do you think it's a
meaningful claim?
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| Re: The New Star Wars. [message #244252 is a reply to message #244237] |
Wed, 30 November 2011 20:58  |
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Originally posted by: Mike Ward
Duggy <Paul.Duggan@jcu.edu.au> wrote in news:7936066e-6456-463c-8e2f-
6954d81e98ba@g21g2000yqc.googlegroups.com:
> Often you see reviews or psters quoting reviews saying that some new
> film is "the New Star Wars", "Star Wars for the X0's" or "Out Star
> Wars Star Wars" or such.
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> What films have you seen it for... and what films do you think it's a
> meaningful claim?
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I think Harry Potter was the next generations Star Wars in terms of
cultural impact and popularity.
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| Re: The New Star Wars. [message #244253 is a reply to message #244252] |
Wed, 30 November 2011 22:12 |
YourName
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In article <Xns9FADD55A5DA7Dmwd@74.209.131.13>, Mike Ward <m@w.d> wrote:
> Duggy <Paul.Duggan@jcu.edu.au> wrote in news:7936066e-6456-463c-8e2f-
> 6954d81e98ba@g21g2000yqc.googlegroups.com:
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>> Often you see reviews or psters quoting reviews saying that some new
>> film is "the New Star Wars", "Star Wars for the X0's" or "Out Star
>> Wars Star Wars" or such.
>>
>> What films have you seen it for... and what films do you think it's a
>> meaningful claim?
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> I think Harry Potter was the next generations Star Wars in terms of
> cultural impact and popularity.
Definitely for the younger kids. Many older kids might say it's the
Twilight saga or Lord of the RIngs / The Hobbit.
Harry Potter is also often said to be "bigger than Star Wars". That might
be true in terms of just the movies (more of them and some had bigger box
office takes), but is untrue when comparing the two franchises as a whole
- there are FAR more novels, comic books, games, and merchandise for Star
Wars than Harry Potter or any other franchise can ever hope to match.
Although there was a story a while back, which I haven't bothered to
follow, about a Harry Potter amusement park, which is one thing Star Wars
doesn't have (yet, there is the Disney ride).
Personally I think Harry Potter (the books and the movies) lost it towards
the end and started getting weird and too scary for it's target audience.
It tried to do what can, and should, never really be done: "grow up" with
it's fans. All it ended up doing was ending on a completely different
style to the start, making a rather messy franchise. George Lucas on the
other hand has kept his main target audience the same throughout.
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| Re: The New Star Wars. [message #244254 is a reply to message #244252] |
Sat, 03 December 2011 05:49 |
Duggy
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On Dec 1, 11:58 am, Mike Ward <m...@w.d> wrote:
> Duggy <Paul.Dug...@jcu.edu.au> wrote in news:7936066e-6456-463c-8e2f-
> 6954d81e9...@g21g2000yqc.googlegroups.com:
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>> Often you see reviews or psters quoting reviews saying that some new
>> film is "the New Star Wars", "Star Wars for the X0's" or "Out Star
>> Wars Star Wars" or such.
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>> What films have you seen it for... and what films do you think it's a
>> meaningful claim?
> I think Harry Potter was the next generations Star Wars in terms of
> cultural impact and popularity.
That's a fair call.
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| Re: The New Star Wars. [message #244255 is a reply to message #244253] |
Sat, 03 December 2011 06:00 |
Duggy
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On Dec 1, 1:12 pm, yourn...@yourisp.com (Your Name) wrote:
> Definitely for the younger kids. Many older kids might say it's the
> Twilight saga
The are adult Harry fans.
Twilight isn't Star Wars. Twilight is Gone With the Wind or Titanic.
> or Lord of the RIngs / The Hobbit.
The novels were huge before the films... makes it harder to directly
compare the two.
> Harry Potter is also often said to be "bigger than Star Wars". That might
> be true in terms of just the movies (more of them and some had bigger box
> office takes), but is untrue when comparing the two franchises as a whole
> - there are FAR more novels, comic books, games,
Far more people have read the Harry novels than the Star Wars ones and
that stuff didn't take off until the 90s.
> and merchandise for Star
> Wars than Harry Potter or any other franchise can ever hope to match.
As far as we can tell now. I'm sure people said the same about The
Little Rascals.
> Personally I think Harry Potter (the books and the movies) lost it towards
> the end
I fought the first book was badly written and the first 3 movies were
horrible predictable and gave up.
> and started getting weird and too scary for it's target audience.
Then you missed the point, it seems.
> It tried to do what can, and should, never really be done: "grow up" with
> it's fans.
What Star Wars should have done.
> George Lucas on the
> other hand has kept his main target audience the same throughout.
Harry Potter and the Deadly Harrows pt 2 - PG 13.
Star Wars ep 3 Revenge of the Sith - PG 13.
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| Re: The New Star Wars. [message #244256 is a reply to message #244255] |
Sat, 03 December 2011 15:47 |
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In article
<bbe81956-c913-4459-b743-b438d4385624@h42g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, Duggy
<Paul.Duggan@jcu.edu.au> wrote:
> On Dec 1, 1:12=A0pm, yourn...@yourisp.com (Your Name) wrote:
>> Definitely for the younger kids. Many older kids might say it's the
>> Twilight saga
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> The are adult Harry fans.
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> Twilight isn't Star Wars. Twilight is Gone With the Wind or Titanic.
>
>> or Lord of the RIngs / The Hobbit.
>
> The novels were huge before the films... makes it harder to directly
> compare the two.
>
>> Harry Potter is also often said to be "bigger than Star Wars". That might
>> be true in terms of just the movies (more of them and some had bigger box
>> office takes), but is untrue when comparing the two franchises as a whole
>> - there are FAR more novels, comic books, games,
>
> Far more people have read the Harry novels than the Star Wars ones and
> that stuff didn't take off until the 90s.
>
>> and merchandise for Star
>> Wars than Harry Potter or any other franchise can ever hope to match.
>
> As far as we can tell now. I'm sure people said the same about The
> Little Rascals.
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>> Personally I think Harry Potter (the books and the movies) lost it toward=
> s
>> the end
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> I fought the first book was badly written and the first 3 movies were
> horrible predictable and gave up.
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>> and started getting weird and too scary for it's target audience.
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> Then you missed the point, it seems.
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>> It tried to do what can, and should, never really be done: "grow up" with
>> it's fans.
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> What Star Wars should have done.
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>> George Lucas on the
>> other hand has kept his main target audience the same throughout.
>
> Harry Potter and the Deadly Harrows pt 2 - PG 13.
> Star Wars ep 3 Revenge of the Sith - PG 13.
Believe whatever garbage you want to delude yourself with - I'm not
wasting time trying to prove anything to you. You asked, I replied ... end
of story. :-\
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| Re: The New Star Wars. [message #244257 is a reply to message #244256] |
Sat, 03 December 2011 16:56 |
Duggy
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On Dec 4, 6:47 am, yourn...@yourisp.com (Your Name) wrote:
>> Harry Potter and the Deadly Harrows pt 2 - PG 13.
>> Star Wars ep 3 Revenge of the Sith - PG 13.
> Believe whatever garbage you want to delude yourself with - I'm not
> wasting time trying to prove anything to you. You asked, I replied ... end
> of story. :-\
Liar. You did not reply to me.
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