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Thu, 30 January 2014 18:40 |
Gene Poole
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About the the G4-DA:
Sounds like it needs a firmware update. One of mine had similar problems
and that was it. The updaters are somewhere on the Apple support site.
If you can, run 'System Profiler' and discover and compare the firmware
versions.
Good luck!
-Gene
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On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 2:56 AM, <g3-5-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
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> - DA G4 will not shut down <#143e2cadf59500e8_group_thread_0> [6
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> DA G4 will not shut down<http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list/t/84015fb18635f841>
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> smac0031 <m.smurph001@gmail.com> Jan 29 12:37PM -0800
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> I tried safe boot and reinstalling 10.4.11 ppc combo update. It didn't
> make
> any difference. I also noticed it won't restart either. It hangs at
> the
> desktop picture and won't go any farther.
>
> I started with the command-v and a lot of text went by which I don't
> understand. Is this saved anywhere?
>
> Mark Murphy
>
> On Monday, January 13, 2014 11:18:24 PM UTC-5, smac0031 wrote:
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> Kris Tilford <ktilford1@cox.net> Jan 29 05:28PM -0600
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>> I started with the command-v and a lot of text went by which I don't
> understand. Is this saved anywhere?
>
> Yes, it's saved temporarily and can be accessed via Terminal directly
> after startup, but we're not too concerned about the startup dialog right
> now, we're interested in the SHUTDOWN dialog. Since it won't complete a
> normal Shutdown, the dialog "should" remain on the screen frozen, for you
> to look at. The last few lines, especially the final line, is what we're
> likely interested in.
>
> To show the verbose startup dialog which is the kernel message buffer,
> you need to open Terminal immediately after boot and type the command
> 'dmesg' which is short for "display message" (no quotes). Later versions of
> OS X may require 'sudo dmesg' followed by admin password entry, but this
> shouldn't be required for yours.
>
> Again, we're interested in the messages at shutdown, which should be
> stalled upon the black screen to easily read.
>
>
>
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> Valter Prahlad <valter.prahlad@fastwebnet.it> Jan 30 12:19AM +0100
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> Il giorno 29/01/14 21.37, "smac0031" ha scritto:
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>> I tried safe boot and reinstalling 10.4.11 ppc combo update. It
> didn't make
>> any difference.
> This makes me think it's more likely is a hardware issue, not software.
> Reinstalling the update should have fixed most software issues, at
> least
> regarding OSX itself.
>
> But the issue could be from a different (non Apple) software as well,
> maybe
> some driver or kext ("extension") from weird apps.
> In System Preferences, in the lower row (Tools or Accessories), what
> do you
> have?
>
>> I also noticed it won't restart either. It hangs at the
>> desktop picture and won't go any farther.
> This makes sense: to restart, it needs to shutdown the system first.
>
>
>
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> Bruce Johnson <johnson@Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU> Jan 30 12:17AM
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>
>>> I also noticed it won't restart either. It hangs at the
>>> desktop picture and won't go any farther.
>> This makes sense: to restart, it needs to shutdown the system first.
>
> Yes, this is a shutdown issue. If it persists when you do a safe boot,
> it's most likely something hardware related, because only Apple kexts are
> running then.
>
> --
> Bruce Johnson
> University of Arizona
> College of Pharmacy
> Information Technology Group
>
> Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs
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> Jack Countryman <jcountry@mac.com> Jan 29 07:23PM -0500
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> If it were me, I'd take a different hard drive, wipe it, and install a
> system from the original system disks. Then reboot from the new setup. If
> it still has issues, it has to be hardware.
> If it works OK from that bare bones system, then update/add software
> till the problem shows up again. If you go one step at a time, you will
> know what was done last, therefore what caused the problem to start. Yeah,
> it takes time to step through to do this.
>
> If you knew what was done to the system just before this started, that
> might give you a better starting point. Then it would be worth undoing the
> last change to see if that fixes things.
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> Kris Tilford <ktilford1@cox.net> Jan 29 06:54PM -0600
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>
>> If it persists when you do a safe boot, it's most likely something
> hardware related, because only Apple kexts are running then.
>
> Agreed, hardware is seeming likely. I still don't understand why he's
> not seeing the verbose shutdown dialog unless it stalls prior to reaching
> this point, which might be pointing toward a bad video card. I'd try
> removing and reseating the video card just-in-case...
>
> If he doesn't have the Apple Hardware Test CD, you can download an
> image here, and burn it, run the test, and see if there's a hardware issue:
>
> <http://www.info.apple.com/support/aht.html>
>
>
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