| no fast internet on my g-macs? [message #227441] |
Fri, 17 January 2014 08:26  |
tina
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hi all,
I can't get more than 14 Mbit from my 50 Mbit connection
the line is tested with two different windows machines that get the 50
Mbit fine
my 17" powerbook g4 ti running 10.4.11, and my husbands white g5 imac
running 10.5.8 both get only 14 Mbit
the powerbook has a 10/100 ethernet card and it is set to full duplex
I find this soooooo strange
any ideas out there?
tia
/tina
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| Re: no fast internet on my g-macs? [message #227442 is a reply to message #227441] |
Fri, 17 January 2014 08:55  |
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On 14-01-17 6:26 AM, tina@nehaia.dk wrote:
> hi all,
>
> I can't get more than 14 Mbit from my 50 Mbit connection
>
> the line is tested with two different windows machines that get the 50
> Mbit fine
>
> my 17" powerbook g4 ti running 10.4.11, and my husbands white g5 imac
> running 10.5.8 both get only 14 Mbit
>
> the powerbook has a 10/100 ethernet card and it is set to full duplex
>
> I find this soooooo strange
>
> any ideas out there?
>
> tia
>
> /tina
Hi /Tina,
Are we talking wired or wireless connections.
If wireless, would you consider resetting your wireless network
settings, including keychains? This is presuming you made recent changes
to your router.
That the speed on both machines is the same, would suggest that the
issue, the bottleneck is on your router. It's indeed strange that both
machines will trottle at the same speed.
If you have another router at home, I'd suggest you dig that out and try
it. Alternatively, if you can bypass your router, that might be good.
I'm willing to wager a few krone that the problem is the router.
Cheers
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| Re: no fast internet on my g-macs? [message #227555 is a reply to message #227442] |
Fri, 17 January 2014 09:42 |
Alex Sciortino
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Do you have the same problem on the PowerBook if you take it to a friends
house? If it is fine there, it is the router, if not, it is your machines.
‹ Alex Sciortino
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On 1/17/14, 6:55 AM, "Nestamicky" <nestamicky@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 14-01-17 6:26 AM, tina@nehaia.dk wrote:
>> hi all,
>>
>> I can't get more than 14 Mbit from my 50 Mbit connection
>>
>> the line is tested with two different windows machines that get the 50
>> Mbit fine
>>
>> my 17" powerbook g4 ti running 10.4.11, and my husbands white g5 imac
>> running 10.5.8 both get only 14 Mbit
>>
>> the powerbook has a 10/100 ethernet card and it is set to full duplex
>>
>> I find this soooooo strange
>>
>> any ideas out there?
>>
>> tia
>>
>> /tina
>
> Hi /Tina,
>
> Are we talking wired or wireless connections.
>
> If wireless, would you consider resetting your wireless network
> settings, including keychains? This is presuming you made recent changes
> to your router.
>
> That the speed on both machines is the same, would suggest that the
> issue, the bottleneck is on your router. It's indeed strange that both
> machines will trottle at the same speed.
>
> If you have another router at home, I'd suggest you dig that out and try
> it. Alternatively, if you can bypass your router, that might be good.
>
> I'm willing to wager a few krone that the problem is the router.
>
> Cheers
>
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| Re: no fast internet on my g-macs? [message #227556 is a reply to message #227441] |
Fri, 17 January 2014 09:47 |
Dan
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At 2:26 PM +0100 01/17/2014, tina@nehaia.dk wrote:
> I can't get more than 14 Mbit from my 50 Mbit connection the line is
> tested with two different windows machines that get the 50 Mbit fine
> my 17" powerbook g4 ti running 10.4.11, and my husbands white g5
> imac running 10.5.8 both get only 14 Mbit
> the powerbook has a 10/100 ethernet card and it is set to full duplex
> I find this soooooo strange
Those Macs are certainly capable of doing much better. By example,
both my 300-MHz Smurf (G3; Tiger) and 933-MHz QuickSilver (G4;
Leopard) can easily peg our fiber service (at various times our
Verizon FiOS service has been 15, 30, and 50 Mbps -- depends on how
cheap we feel). And when talking to a SmartStor NAS on our LAN
(GigE switch), they frequently do 80%+ of their ethernet speeds.
(The Smurf is 100Mb and the QS is gigE).
Are you using a wired or wifi connection to your home router?
Switches involved?
How exactly are you determining "can't get more than 14 Mbit"?
Are you sure that those aformentioned Windoze machines aren't sucking
up the bandwidth? ... I get terrible speedtest results when my
housemate's peecee is all infected (he swamps the router with open
ports talking to Russian sites, filling its NAT table) or streaming
high def vid, etc.
Have you run some traceroutes, to make sure the path between you and
your target is clear?
See Nesta's reply... that both Macs get the same throughput could be
telling. Check the router and any local switch between you and it...
- Dan.
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| Re: no fast internet on my g-macs? [message #227679 is a reply to message #227442] |
Fri, 17 January 2014 13:13 |
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Den Fredag, 17/1 2014, 02:55, Nestamicky skrev:
> On 14-01-17 6:26 AM, tina@nehaia.dk wrote:
>> hi all,
>>
>> I can't get more than 14 Mbit from my 50 Mbit connection
>>
>> the line is tested with two different windows machines that get the 50
>> Mbit fine
>>
>> my 17" powerbook g4 ti running 10.4.11, and my husbands white g5 imac
>> running 10.5.8 both get only 14 Mbit
>>
>> the powerbook has a 10/100 ethernet card and it is set to full duplex
>>
>> I find this soooooo strange
>>
>> any ideas out there?
>>
>> tia
>>
>> /tina
>
> Hi /Tina,
>
> Are we talking wired or wireless connections.
>
> If wireless, would you consider resetting your wireless network
> settings, including keychains? This is presuming you made recent changes
> to your router.
>
> That the speed on both machines is the same, would suggest that the
> issue, the bottleneck is on your router. It's indeed strange that both
> machines will trottle at the same speed.
>
> If you have another router at home, I'd suggest you dig that out and try
> it. Alternatively, if you can bypass your router, that might be good.
>
> I'm willing to wager a few krone that the problem is the router.
>
> Cheers
hello again,
I see I forgot to mention that all tests were done wired directly to the
box on the wall and at one of those online places like speedtest.net -
they all use the ookla-thingy
it's consistent, I never ever get more than 14 mbit on both macs - haven't
tried them outside the house
also, as I went from a 6/6 connection, I expected that everything would
almost fly, but it doesn't
just checked at download from macupdate right now, which ran at some 600
KB...
the tech guy who installed the fiber tested 50/50 on his brand new windows
laptop, and seconds after he left, I plugged the powerbook in and tested
14/11, and it's been like that ever since
yesterday a friend with an older windows laptop tested 50/26
I'm so disappointed :-(
tia
/tina
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| Re: no fast internet on my g-macs? [message #227811 is a reply to message #227679] |
Fri, 17 January 2014 14:43 |
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On Jan 17, 2014, at 11:13 AM, tina@nehaia.dk wrote:
>
> hello again,
>
> I see I forgot to mention that all tests were done wired directly to the
> box on the wall and at one of those online places like speedtest.net -
> they all use the ookla-thingy
>
> it's consistent, I never ever get more than 14 mbit on both macs - haven't
> tried them outside the house
>
> also, as I went from a 6/6 connection, I expected that everything would
> almost fly, but it doesn't
>
> just checked at download from macupdate right now, which ran at some 600
> KB...
>
> the tech guy who installed the fiber tested 50/50 on his brand new windows
> laptop, and seconds after he left, I plugged the powerbook in and tested
> 14/11, and it's been like that ever since
>
> yesterday a friend with an older windows laptop tested 50/26
>
> I'm so disappointed :-(
What speed does the router talk to your Mac at? It will be (probably) 100mbit or even gigabit Ethernet.
You might have some communications issues between the router and the mac. You can go to System prefs > Networking and in the advanced section of the ethernet, Look in the Hardware tab (may be different in 10.4 and 10.5, but on my system it has the following:
Configure: Manually or Automatically
Speed: Autoselect, 10baseT, 100baseT, 1000BaseT
Duplex: Full-duplex, full-duplex Flow Control, maybe Half-duplex (mine doesn’t show that, but it may not be relevant under gigabit)
MTU: Standard or Çustom.
You might be having issues with speed and duplexing. Try setting those manually.
Supposedly there are ways to set your MTU for better performance with specific networking setups, and you might be able to fix something like that, but I don’t have any direct experience.
But hey, you’re paying for this service, and you’re not getting it, get them in to see what’s happening with your equipment, and don’t take ‘Oh it’s a Mac’ for an answer.
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| Re: no fast internet on my g-macs? [message #227927 is a reply to message #227441] |
Fri, 17 January 2014 16:29 |
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On Jan 17, 2014, at 7:26 AM, tina@nehaia.dk wrote:
> any ideas out there?
This article has some info on tweaking OS X network connections:
< http://rolande.wordpress.com/2010/12/30/performance-tuning-t he-network-stack-on-mac-osx-10-6/>
In the link to the older Wayback Machine archive, they’re specifically talking about older PPC Macs running 10.4 & 10.5, and there seems to be a limitation under default settings that’s near your 14 Mbps limit. By adjusting two parameter settings they up it to 35 Mbps.
I remember when I was running PPC Macs I always used some Terminal script to optimize my network settings and it really had a large effect. I can’t remember the name of what I used, but it worked.
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| Re: no fast internet on my g-macs? [message #241730 is a reply to message #227811] |
Sat, 01 February 2014 04:38 |
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Den Fredag, 17/1 2014, 08:43, Bruce Johnson skrev:
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> On Jan 17, 2014, at 11:13 AM, tina@nehaia.dk wrote:
>>
>> hello again,
>>
>> I see I forgot to mention that all tests were done wired directly to the
>> box on the wall and at one of those online places like speedtest.net -
>> they all use the ookla-thingy
>>
>> it's consistent, I never ever get more than 14 mbit on both macs -
>> haven't
>> tried them outside the house
>>
>> also, as I went from a 6/6 connection, I expected that everything would
>> almost fly, but it doesn't
>>
>> just checked at download from macupdate right now, which ran at some 600
>> KB...
>>
>> the tech guy who installed the fiber tested 50/50 on his brand new
>> windows
>> laptop, and seconds after he left, I plugged the powerbook in and tested
>> 14/11, and it's been like that ever since
>>
>> yesterday a friend with an older windows laptop tested 50/26
>>
>> I'm so disappointed :-(
>
> What speed does the router talk to your Mac at? It will be (probably)
> 100mbit or even gigabit Ethernet.
>
> You might have some communications issues between the router and the mac.
> You can go to System prefs > Networking and in the advanced section of the
> ethernet, Look in the Hardware tab (may be different in 10.4 and 10.5, but
> on my system it has the following:
>
> Configure: Manually or Automatically
> Speed: Autoselect, 10baseT, 100baseT, 1000BaseT
> Duplex: Full-duplex, full-duplex Flow Control, maybe Half-duplex (mine
> doesn't show that, but it may not be relevant under gigabit)
> MTU: Standard or Çustom.
>
> You might be having issues with speed and duplexing. Try setting those
> manually.
been there, done that - no change
> Supposedly there are ways to set your MTU for better performance with
> specific networking setups, and you might be able to fix something like
> that, but I don't have any direct experience.
>
> But hey, you're paying for this service, and you're not getting it, get
> them in to see what's happening with your equipment, and don't take 'Oh
> it's a Mac' for an answer.
well, they specify in the support section that I should use "a newer
computer" when testing for speed
I'm quite sure I don't get anywhere with them
thanks
/tina
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| Re: no fast internet on my g-macs? [message #241731 is a reply to message #227927] |
Sat, 01 February 2014 04:43 |
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Den Fredag, 17/1 2014, 10:29, Kris Tilford skrev:
> On Jan 17, 2014, at 7:26 AM, tina@nehaia.dk wrote:
>
>> any ideas out there?
>
> This article has some info on tweaking OS X network connections:
>
> < http://rolande.wordpress.com/2010/12/30/performance-tuning-t he-network-stack-on-mac-osx-10-6/>
>
> In the link to the older Wayback Machine archive, they're specifically
> talking about older PPC Macs running 10.4 & 10.5, and there seems to be a
> limitation under default settings that's near your 14 Mbps limit. By
> adjusting two parameter settings they up it to 35 Mbps.
>
> I remember when I was running PPC Macs I always used some Terminal script
> to optimize my network settings and it really had a large effect. I can't
> remember the name of what I used, but it worked.
thanks, but that's a bit too much for me
I tried the apple broadband tuner, that didn't help either
frustrating! and soooo wierd that the system limits the hardware
thanks all for trying
/tina
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| Re: no fast internet on my g-macs? [message #241745 is a reply to message #227441] |
Sat, 01 February 2014 07:02 |
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On Jan 17, 2014, at 05:26 , tina@nehaia.dk wrote:
> hi all,
>
> I can't get more than 14 Mbit from my 50 Mbit connection
>
Hi,
I don't really have any idea where your bottleneck is, but I can
assure you it is nothing intrinsic in your computer....
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Assuming that by "14 Mbit" we're talking 14 mega-bits per second...
that is 1.75 Megabytes / second.
50 Mbits/s would be about 6.25 MB/s
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Point 1: This has nothing to with your OS or hardware capabilities.
I often use ethernet to transfer files from my linux laptop to my mac
and have experienced much faster speeds:
transfer from:
Linux Fedora on Thinkpad, builtin ethernet
through:
Linksys 5 port hub
To:
Powerbook 12" - built-in ethernet -> ~ 48 Mbits/second
and later...
G4 Quicksilver -> ~80 Megabits/second
Each case the mac running OS-X 10.4.11, built-in ethernet, speed
reported by Linux, ftp protocol.
( I am quite sure that the faster transfer to the desktop machine is
a matter of the CPU speed, in my case, since the Powerbook's CPU gets
maxed out during the transfer. )
Point 2: I think somebody might have been pulling your leg when
reporting the Windows connection speed.
My connection type is mobile-broad-band (at 2.4 Mbits/s), so I got
curious and decided to do some checking about wired connections...
-> fastest average internet connection speed in the U.S. is 10 Mbit/s.
< http://www.statetechmagazine.com/article/2013/02/average-int ernet-
connection-speed-every-state-america>
-> U.S. average speed is 7.4 Mbits/s
< http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Average-US-Connection-Spe ed-
Now-74-Mbps-123988>
-> Theoretical maximum cable speed is 30 Mbit/s
< http://compnetworking.about.com/od/internetaccessbestuses/f/
cablespeed.htm>
-> Typical maximum DSL speed if 20 Mbits/s
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_access>
What's the likelihood that you're getting 50 Mbits ?
... ( Unless you have a VDSL line or the like )
Point 3: Testing service...
Try other testing services too, such as <http://www.scanmyspeed.com/>.
[hey you never know, M.S. might have 'influenced' some of them].
By the way, I don't think you have mentioned thus far what your
internet connection type is (Cable, DSL, etc.).
Manoah F. Adams
P.S.:
In the course of checking the connection speeds for my self, I was
reminded why I use a mac...
The moment I started Internet Explorer on Windows 7, what does it do?
It tries to open msn.com and the computer chokes because it is trying
to open a new window faster than I can click the close buttons, then
even the "task manager" cant
get enough CPU power to run, nor can it bring itself to the front to
be useful.
I had to turn off the wifi and let it burn itself out !
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| Re: no fast internet on my g-macs? [message #241823 is a reply to message #241745] |
Sun, 02 February 2014 06:52 |
tina
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Den Lørdag, 1/2 2014, 01:02, Manoah F. Adams skrev:
> On Jan 17, 2014, at 05:26 , tina@nehaia.dk wrote:
>
>> hi all,
>>
>> I can't get more than 14 Mbit from my 50 Mbit connection
>>
>
> Hi,
>
> I don't really have any idea where your bottleneck is, but I can
> assure you it is nothing intrinsic in your computer....
[snip]
> Point 2: I think somebody might have been pulling your leg when
> reporting the Windows connection speed.
no pulling legs, I was present, seeing it with my own eyes
> What's the likelihood that you're getting 50 Mbits ?
>
> ... ( Unless you have a VDSL line or the like )
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> Point 3: Testing service...
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> Try other testing services too, such as <http://www.scanmyspeed.com/>.
> [hey you never know, M.S. might have 'influenced' some of them].
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> By the way, I don't think you have mentioned thus far what your
> internet connection type is (Cable, DSL, etc.).
it's a fiberconnection 50/50
/tina
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| Re: no fast internet on my g-macs? [message #241824 is a reply to message #227556] |
Sun, 02 February 2014 09:31 |
Nesta Nesta
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On 14-01-17 7:47 AM, Dan wrote:
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> See Nesta's reply... that both Macs get the same throughput could be
> telling. Check the router and any local switch between you and it...
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> - Dan.
I can't find my response to this thread you've mentioned here Dan. But
if she can find it, it's worth a try.
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