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Installing New HDD in my G5 [message #212375] Thu, 19 December 2013 15:17 Go to next message
Evan Thomas is currently offline  Evan Thomas
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Hello!

I'm trying to wrap my head around the best way to install the 500GB SATA
drive I have bought for storing video files.

Currently I'm running a 40GB system disc and 250GB for video projects. I'd
like to use the 250GB as the system disc and start using the new 500GB for
the video projects. What's the best solution?

I guess first thing is to copy all of the video files to somewhere else. I
know I should be doing that already : / I then need to clone the 40GB to
the 250GB? Will that work? Then take the 40GB out and install the 500GB and
then copy the video files over?

Cheers,
Evan


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Dual 2.0 GHz
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Re: Installing New HDD in my G5 [message #212376 is a reply to message #212375] Thu, 19 December 2013 15:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bruce Johnson is currently offline  Bruce Johnson
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On Dec 19, 2013, at 1:17 PM, Evan Thomas <spevsy@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Hello!
>
> I'm trying to wrap my head around the best way to install the 500GB SATA drive I have bought for storing video files.
>
> Currently I'm running a 40GB system disc and 250GB for video projects. I'd like to use the 250GB as the system disc and start using the new 500GB for the video projects. What's the best solution?
>
> I guess first thing is to copy all of the video files to somewhere else. I know I should be doing that already : / I then need to clone the 40GB to the 250GB? Will that work? Then take the 40GB out and install the 500GB and then copy the video files over?

Yep that’s exactly what to do.



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Re: Installing New HDD in my G5 [message #212523 is a reply to message #212375] Fri, 20 December 2013 06:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hello!

>
> I'm trying to wrap my head around the best way to install the 500GB SATA
> drive I have bought for storing video files.
>
> Currently I'm running a 40GB system disc and 250GB for video projects. I'd
> like to use the 250GB as the system disc and start using the new 500GB for
> the video projects. What's the best solution?
>
> I guess first thing is to copy all of the video files to somewhere else. I
> know I should be doing that already : / I then need to clone the 40GB to
> the 250GB? Will that work? Then take the 40GB out and install the 500GB and
> then copy the video files over?
>

Yes. Do you have "somewhere else" to copy the video files to, like a backup
HD?
Alternatively, if you have a (Firewire preferably) dock to connect the new
drive externally, you could copy the files over before you install the
500GB--it's somewhat safer.
Cloning works well with CCC.



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Re: Installing New HDD in my G5 [message #212652 is a reply to message #212375] Fri, 20 December 2013 16:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Evan Thomas <spevsy@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Currently I'm running a 40GB system disc and 250GB for video projects. I'd
> like to use the 250GB as the system disc and start using the new 500GB for
> the video projects. What's the best solution?
>

250 GB -> 500 GB
40 GB -> 250 GB

Although I would recommend a fresh OS install, you should be fine
everything else.

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Re: Installing New HDD in my G5 [message #212653 is a reply to message #212652] Fri, 20 December 2013 16:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> 250 GB -> 500 GB
> 40 GB -> 250 GB

That works.

Alas, there exists a self-imposed 2.2 TB (2,200 GB) barrier, in SOME
cases. This ... usually ... turns out to be a BIOS
incompatibility/limitation.

Presently, I always use 1 TB drive for my OS drives, generally configured
as 1/3 primary OS, 1/3 emergency backup OS, and 1/3 common data (which
ALSO includes programs and data which is intentionally removed from the
Primary/Secondary partitions).

Additionally, I almost always use 3 TB for data, such as DVD images. I
tend to "rip" all my purchased DVDs to disk, so I can view these on the
computer. Whether this is a breach of the DMCA, or not, is not something
which I really and truly CARE about!)

DO work whatever works for YOU!



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Re: Installing New HDD in my G5 [message #212675 is a reply to message #212652] Fri, 20 December 2013 18:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:05 PM, NODEraser wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Evan Thomas <spevsy@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Currently I'm running a 40GB system disc and 250GB for video projects. I'd
>> like to use the 250GB as the system disc and start using the new 500GB for
>> the video projects. What's the best solution?
>>
>
> 250 GB -> 500 GB
> 40 GB -> 250 GB
>
> Although I would recommend a fresh OS install, you should be fine
> everything else.


I'm not sure if it's been mentioned but I think the problem here could be that to transfer the 250 to the 500 you need to be booted from the 40Gb drive in order to make the copy. This means you need three drives mounted at once which may be one too many. I have a PowerMac G5 but I didn't need to do such a shuffle when setting it up so I'm not sure about this.

If it is a limitation and the OP doesn't have a way to mount a SATA drive via Firewire or USB then he'll need to do a bit of fancy footwork.

If there is room you could:
Connect the 40Gb and 250Gb
Use Carbon Copy Cloner to copy (without deleting any files) from the 40Gb to the 250Gb.
Remove the 40Gb and install the 500Gb
Format the 500Gb
Finder copy the Video files, etc., from the 250Gb to the 500Gb drive
Delete the files from the 250Gb that were copied.

Otherwise you'd need to:
Connect the 40Gb and 500Gb
Format the 500Gb
Use CCC to copy from the 40Gb to the 500Gb
Remove the 40Gb and install the 250Gb
Finder copy the Video files, etc., from the 250Gb to the 500Gb drive
Delete the files from the 250Gb that were copied.
Use CCC to copy from the 500Gb to the 250Gb the OS and anything else but the files originally on the 250Gb.

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Re: Installing New HDD in my G5 [message #212676 is a reply to message #212675] Fri, 20 December 2013 18:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Clark Martin <cmmac@sonic.net> wrote:
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> I'm not sure if it's been mentioned but I think the problem here could be that to transfer the 250 to the 500 you need to be booted from the 40Gb drive in order to make the copy. This means you need three drives mounted at once which may be one too many. I have a PowerMac G5 but I didn't need to do such a shuffle when setting it up so I'm not sure about this.
>

Boot from a USB device or CD.

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Re: Installing New HDD in my G5 [message #212760 is a reply to message #212675] Sat, 21 December 2013 06:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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@Clark: ingenious! But if he values his data, he should have a backup, like
an external HD or something. Even if he doesn't, I'm sure he can borrow a
USB drive to do the transfer job. I guess he had not started on it yet
because he wanted to be clear about the entire procedure first, and he
wasn't sure how to copy the OS over.

I agree with Greg that he should consider doing a fresh OS install,
depending on how long he's been working with this system drive, and on how
much time he can spend on the install of OS and application software.

@Greg: I guess what you say about copying over the OS is about Apple's
Drive Utility. But CCC can clone system disks independent of what the Mac
is booted from.

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Re: Installing New HDD in my G5 [message #212828 is a reply to message #212760] Sat, 21 December 2013 12:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Dec 21, 2013, at 4:24 AM, Geke <gevangasteren@gmail.com<mailto:gevangasteren@gmail.com>> wrote:


@Greg: I guess what you say about copying over the OS is about Apple's Drive Utility. But CCC can clone system disks independent of what the Mac is booted from.

You can use the ‘Restore’ function in Disk Utility to clone any drive mounted on the system to anything other than the boot volume.

< http://www.amazon.com/USB-SATA-5-25-Cable-Adapter/dp/B000YJB L78> is a must have tool for anyone doing things like this. Use restore to clone the 250 to the 500, then use it to restore the 40 to the 250, pull the 40 install the 500 and boot.

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Re: Installing New HDD in my G5 [message #212829 is a reply to message #212828] Sat, 21 December 2013 12:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Dec 21, 2013, at 11:52 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

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> On Dec 21, 2013, at 4:24 AM, Geke <gevangasteren@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> @Greg: I guess what you say about copying over the OS is about Apple's Drive Utility. But CCC can clone system disks independent of what the Mac is booted from.
>
> You can use the ‘Restore’ function in Disk Utility to clone any drive mounted on the system to anything other than the boot volume.
>
> < http://www.amazon.com/USB-SATA-5-25-Cable-Adapter/dp/B000YJB L78> is a must have tool for anyone doing things like this. Use restore to clone the 250 to the 500, then use it to restore the 40 to the 250, pull the 40 install the 500 and boot.
>
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A few years ago when I bought a Mac Mini, I also purchased a SATA/IDE to USB 2.0 Adapter. I haven't used it much but it is a godsend when I need it!

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Re: Installing New HDD in my G5 [message #212924 is a reply to message #212828] Sun, 22 December 2013 06:32 Go to previous message
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Just prod Bruce a bit and he invariably comes up with invaluable advice :-)
Thanks a lot for this great little tooltip!

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