| Possible to build Commodore Hard Drive? [message #188784] |
Thu, 24 January 2008 21:41  |
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Originally posted by: joviyach
I was wondering if there are any schematics out there, or if it is
even possible to duplicate something like an Lt. Kernel nowadays? I'd
really like to have a hard drive for my C64C, but my wife would flat
out kill me if I spent $800 on a hard drive for the Commodore. Plus, I
have heard that it is nearly impossible to find an Lt. Kernel and CMDs
are rare.
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| Re: Possible to build Commodore Hard Drive? [message #188787 is a reply to message #188784] |
Thu, 24 January 2008 23:12  |
Rick Youngman
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On Jan 24, 7:41 pm, joviyach <joviy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I was wondering if there are any schematics out there, or if it is
> even possible to duplicate something like an Lt. Kernel nowadays? I'd
> really like to have a hard drive for my C64C, but my wife would flat
> out kill me if I spent $800 on a hard drive for the Commodore. Plus, I
> have heard that it is nearly impossible to find an Lt. Kernel and CMDs
> are rare.
You might want to investigate some of the product's and programs
available to use an old PC as a file server for the C64. Many of those
kind of things have been around for years, and have all the "bugs"
worked out now and work flawlessly.
Your wife will love you , if you use that old 486, holding up the
coffee table for something useful, and spend the money you would have
spent on a CMD ( you would never recieve from Maurice ) -- and get a
new coffee table for her.
The work being done to interface the USB Flash drive is even more
exciting... nice and compact ( and light weight ) and take up little
desktop space.
Rick
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| Re: Possible to build Commodore Hard Drive? [message #188788 is a reply to message #188784] |
Thu, 24 January 2008 23:40 |
Andrew Wiskow
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On Jan 24, 6:41 pm, joviyach <joviy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I was wondering if there are any schematics out there, or if it is
> even possible to duplicate something like an Lt. Kernel nowadays? I'd
> really like to have a hard drive for my C64C, but my wife would flat
> out kill me if I spent $800 on a hard drive for the Commodore. Plus, I
> have heard that it is nearly impossible to find an Lt. Kernel and CMDs
> are rare.
I've owned two CMD HD's and a Lt. Kernal hard drive during this past
year, so neither are IMPOSSIBLE to find. It's true that they're not
plentiful, but they are still out there. I got the Lt. Kernal in
trade for one of the CMD HD's. Unfortunately, due to the value of
these drives and being short on cash twoard the end of last year, I
was forced to sell the other CMD HD and the Lt. Kernal. However, I do
hope to be able to get another one again at some point in time.
Of all the hard drives for Commodores, the ones I'd say are
practically IMPOSSIBLE to find are the ICT Data Chief and the original
Commodore 9060 and 9090 hard drives. At least I haven't been able to
find any of these (yet).
-Andrew
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| Re: Possible to build Commodore Hard Drive? [message #188790 is a reply to message #188784] |
Fri, 25 January 2008 01:30 |
Jim Brain
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joviyach wrote:
> I was wondering if there are any schematics out there, or if it is
> even possible to duplicate something like an Lt. Kernel nowadays? I'd
> really like to have a hard drive for my C64C, but my wife would flat
> out kill me if I spent $800 on a hard drive for the Commodore. Plus, I
> have heard that it is nearly impossible to find an Lt. Kernel and CMDs
> are rare.
First off, I think 64HDD may be a good first option. SD2IEC or MMC2IEC
can also be considered a Hard Drive. Ultimate 1541 will no doubt grow
to incldue a std HD based operation, as everything else is there.
There is also the X-IDE work, which aims to interface an IDE drive to a
1541 using a daughterboard.
Jim
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| Re: Possible to build Commodore Hard Drive? [message #188799 is a reply to message #188790] |
Fri, 25 January 2008 06:48 |
Ruud
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Hallo Joviyach,
> but my wife would flat out kill me if I spent $800 on a hard drive
What about a few dollars?
http://www.baltissen.org/images/1541ide8.jpg
You can find more on:
http://www.baltissen.org/newhtm/1541ide8.htm
But be aware, this page is already outdated. At this moment my system
supports up to 12000 images. At this moment I only have troubles with
displaying which images can be found on the harddisk but I hope to
have solved this problem at the end of next week.
Next steps:
- subdirectories
- 16 MB images using original 2 bytes Track/Sector link
- supporting up to 1 TB drives using 4 bytes LBA link
- supporting full 16 bits mode of Jims IDE interface
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| Re: Possible to build Commodore Hard Drive? [message #188827 is a reply to message #188813] |
Sat, 26 January 2008 10:37 |
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Originally posted by: joviyach
On Jan 25, 3:28 pm, redrumloa <amiga...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> On Jan 25, 10:44 am, "Leif Bloomquist" <s...@127.0.0.116> wrote:
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>> And nobody's mentioned my favorite yet, the IDE64 (there are many out there,
>> and a new version coming soon)...
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>> http://news.ide64.org/
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> Does not support 128 mode, not an option for me :-(
Thanks everyone! I will take a look at these. I am really wanting to
get my 64 up and running again, hopefully preserve the software I have
for it. It would be nice to get a BBS up and running eventually as
well. I am quite fond of Andrew's BBS (Cottonwood), it really takes me
back...
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| Re: Possible to build Commodore Hard Drive? [message #188835 is a reply to message #188784] |
Sat, 26 January 2008 17:18 |
Andrew Wiskow
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Eric Pearson just sent me a zip file that includes documentation, ROM,
and labels for the ICT Mini Chief hard drive. This is the hard drive
that was built inside of a 1571 drive. Included in the PDF file are
instructions that can be used, in theory, to build your own ICT Mini
Chief hard drive with a 1571 drive and the appropriate parts. I don't
personally have the technical know-how to pull this off, and Eric says
he hasn't built his own yet, but he did say that he intends to. For
anyone interested, I've posted this zip file on my website at
http://cottonwood.servebbs.com/wiskow
-Andrew
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| Re: Possible to build Commodore Hard Drive? [message #188838 is a reply to message #188799] |
Sat, 26 January 2008 18:17 |
Riccardo Rubini
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Ruud wrote:
> But be aware, this page is already outdated. At this moment my system
> supports up to 12000 images. At this moment I only have troubles with
> displaying which images can be found on the harddisk but I hope to
> have solved this problem at the end of next week.
> Next steps:
> - subdirectories
> - 16 MB images using original 2 bytes Track/Sector link
> - supporting up to 1 TB drives using 4 bytes LBA link
> - supporting full 16 bits mode of Jims IDE interface
Ruud, your work is really impressive. Please keep us up-to-date with the
on-going status of your project.
Riccardo
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| Re: Possible to build Commodore Hard Drive? [message #317794 is a reply to message #188784] |
Mon, 09 May 2016 20:30 |
Tom Peranteau
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On Thursday, January 24, 2008 at 6:41:18 PM UTC-8, joviyach wrote:
> I was wondering if there are any schematics out there, or if it is
> even possible to duplicate something like an Lt. Kernel nowadays? I'd
> really like to have a hard drive for my C64C, but my wife would flat
> out kill me if I spent $800 on a hard drive for the Commodore. Plus, I
> have heard that it is nearly impossible to find an Lt. Kernel and CMDs
> are rare.
I still have the schematics for an old I.C.T. hard drive. They are over at commodore.coolblogsite.com
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| Re: Possible to build Commodore Hard Drive? [message #338671 is a reply to message #188784] |
Wed, 01 March 2017 14:36 |
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Originally posted by: jensjoergen.jp
Den fredag den 25. januar 2008 kl. 03.41.18 UTC+1 skrev joviyach:
> I was wondering if there are any schematics out there, or if it is
> even possible to duplicate something like an Lt. Kernel nowadays? I'd
> really like to have a hard drive for my C64C, but my wife would flat
> out kill me if I spent $800 on a hard drive for the Commodore. Plus, I
> have heard that it is nearly impossible to find an Lt. Kernel and CMDs
> are rare.
I changed the kernell vectors in my vic,so that the machine used ram
as a harddisc.This is used today with SSD drives.But yes there exists
a device that uses the seriel interface to acces severel Gbytes RAM.
And it`s relatively cheap.
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