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Cinematic Titanic: Legacy or Doomsday? [message #176321] Sun, 26 July 2009 20:27 Go to next message
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Originally posted by: Derek Janssen

Okay, I'll admit I've been dragging my feet about watching CT downloads.
Partly because I didn't know they HAD downloads (and I didn't want to
order homemade disks--The old-school anime fans will understand), and
partly because...yes, I'm *still* that traumatized from the Film Crew.
(Yes, I know the CT crew are the Funny Ones Who Still Actually Own
Rights to the Original and Aren't That Desperate For a One-Hit-Wonder
Buck, but old fears die hard.)

Meanwhile, while searching Hulu.com for some streaming-rerun goodness to
download late at night, I happened across a half-dozen old sampled 80's
episodes of "Elvira's Movie Macabre"....And while she's not
*overwhelmingly* funny (except for the standard scene-specific
sarcastic host-seg digs at the movie), it's not Boobarella from "The
Simpsons", either.
More to the point, two of the listed episodes included host-hecklings of
"Legacy of Blood" and "The Doomsday Machine". Think CT's movie
acquisition department shops at the same PD store.
(And as to the movies themselves: Yes. The mind can say nothing but Oh
Dear Gods. Had "Legacy of Blood" aired during the Joel era, "Manos"
would have had competition for Inexplicable status. 0_0'' )

....So, if I had to get my feet wet on either of those two Cinematic
Titanic experiments for pay-download, would either of the two be worth
the choice?
Or is there another episode ideal for first timers?
(And no, I'm not watching their "Santa/Martians" do-over, seeing as
there was nothing wrong with the first one.)

Derek Janssen
ejanss1@verizon.net
Re: Cinematic Titanic: Legacy or Doomsday? [message #176326 is a reply to message #176321] Mon, 27 July 2009 13:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Derek Janssen <ejanss1@nospam.verizon.net> wrote:

> Okay, I'll admit I've been dragging my feet about watching CT downloads.
> Partly because I didn't know they HAD downloads (and I didn't want to
> order homemade disks--The old-school anime fans will understand), and

Cinematic Titanic are real DVDs, not even DVD-rs. Get them, and
forget paid-downloading: in general, I consider a "hard copy" at
twice the price of the paid download to be a bargain relative to the
download price which I consider to be a rip-off. CT started as
download only, but they wised up, so don't mislead folk with dis
download talk.

> partly because...yes, I'm *still* that traumatized from the Film Crew.

But the Film Crew is good. I'm strangley attached to the Film Crew's
Wild Women of Wongo, and "I can't tell if this is sexy or stupid".

> (Yes, I know the CT crew are the Funny Ones Who Still Actually Own
> Rights to the Original and Aren't That Desperate For a One-Hit-Wonder
> Buck, but old fears die hard.)
>
> Meanwhile, while searching Hulu.com for some streaming-rerun goodness to
> download late at night, I happened across a half-dozen old sampled 80's
> episodes of "Elvira's Movie Macabre"....And while she's not
> *overwhelmingly* funny (except for the standard scene-specific
> sarcastic host-seg digs at the movie), it's not Boobarella from "The
> Simpsons", either.

Thanks for the tip. I peaked at Elvira's They Came From Beyond Space
and Elvira's Legacy Of Blood, and it's completely missing any people
talking over the movie, so how the hell am I supposed to know what's
going on? The host segment I saw did have boobs, just like Boobarella
on the simpsons.

> More to the point, two of the listed episodes included host-hecklings of
> "Legacy of Blood" and "The Doomsday Machine". Think CT's movie
> acquisition department shops at the same PD store.
> (And as to the movies themselves: Yes. The mind can say nothing but Oh
> Dear Gods. Had "Legacy of Blood" aired during the Joel era, "Manos"
> would have had competition for Inexplicable status. 0_0'' )
>
> ...So, if I had to get my feet wet on either of those two Cinematic
> Titanic experiments for pay-download, would either of the two be worth
> the choice?
> Or is there another episode ideal for first timers?
> (And no, I'm not watching their "Santa/Martians" do-over, seeing as
> there was nothing wrong with the first one.)
>
> Derek Janssen
> ejanss1@verizon.net
Re: Cinematic Titanic: Legacy or Doomsday? [message #176327 is a reply to message #176321] Mon, 27 July 2009 14:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Doug Elrod is currently offline  Doug Elrod
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On Jul 26, 8:27 pm, Derek Janssen <ejan...@nospam.verizon.net> wrote:
> More to the point, two of the listed episodes included host-hecklings of
> "Legacy of Blood" and "The Doomsday Machine".  Think CT's movie
> acquisition department shops at the same PD store.
> (And as to the movies themselves:  Yes.  The mind can say nothing but Oh
> Dear Gods.  Had "Legacy of Blood" aired during the Joel era, "Manos"
> would have had competition for Inexplicable status.  0_0'' )
>
> ...So, if I had to get my feet wet on either of those two Cinematic
> Titanic experiments for pay-download, would either of the two be worth
> the choice?
> Or is there another episode ideal for first timers?
> (And no, I'm not watching their "Santa/Martians" do-over, seeing as
> there was nothing wrong with the first one.)
>
> Derek Janssen
> ejan...@verizon.net

I would go with "Legacy of Blood", no question. "Doomsday Machine"
didn't counter the AGGRESSIVE lack of action enough, IMHO (YMMV).
I really think they've improved as they've gone along (mainly in
"percent coverage", but also in "peak funniness"). So, my favorite so
far is "Blood of the Vampires" because of its superior movie-
protection ;-)

-Doug Elrod (dre1@cornell.edu)
Re: Cinematic Titanic: Legacy or Doomsday? [message #176328 is a reply to message #176327] Mon, 27 July 2009 18:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Derek Janssen

Doug Elrod wrote:
> On Jul 26, 8:27 pm, Derek Janssen <ejan...@nospam.verizon.net> wrote:
>> More to the point, two of the listed episodes included host-hecklings of
>> "Legacy of Blood" and "The Doomsday Machine". Think CT's movie
>> acquisition department shops at the same PD store.

(Not to mention "Frankenstein's CoF", which reduces the chance of
coincidence considerably...)

>> ...So, if I had to get my feet wet on either of those two Cinematic
>> Titanic experiments for pay-download, would either of the two be worth
>> the choice?
>> Or is there another episode ideal for first timers?
>> (And no, I'm not watching their "Santa/Martians" do-over, seeing as
>> there was nothing wrong with the first one.)
>
> I would go with "Legacy of Blood", no question.

Although perhaps more appropriate to say you SHALL!...and you
WILL!...UNDERSTAND??
("Body by Charles Atlas, head by Mel Brooks.") :)

> "Doomsday Machine"
> didn't counter the AGGRESSIVE lack of action enough, IMHO (YMMV).
> I really think they've improved as they've gone along (mainly in
> "percent coverage", but also in "peak funniness").

Most of the website user complaints seem to be that with no host segs,
"Doomsday"'s heckling kinda...just wandered off after the downbeat
"Monster-a-Go-Go"-esque anti-climax, and needed more of a parting-shot
punchline. (As the old after-show segs would often provide.)

Although the competition had its own post-show analysis:
"Anyone get the impression they...just kinda ran out of money, had four
days to throw together whatever they had, and none of the actors would
come back?: 'Yeah, Bobby, remember that spaceship thing?' 'Nope, sorry,
got a game show coming up.'"

Derek Janssen
ejanss1@verizon.net
Re: Cinematic Titanic: Legacy or Doomsday? [message #176445 is a reply to message #176321] Tue, 28 July 2009 10:54 Go to previous message
Reaper G is currently offline  Reaper G
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On Jul 26, 5:27�pm, Derek Janssen <ejan...@nospam.verizon.net> wrote:
> Okay, I'll admit I've been dragging my feet about watching CT downloads.
> Partly because I didn't know they HAD downloads (and I didn't want to
> order homemade disks--The old-school anime fans will understand), and
> partly because...yes, I'm *still* that traumatized from the Film Crew.
> (Yes, I know the CT crew are the Funny Ones Who Still Actually Own
> Rights to the Original and Aren't That Desperate For a One-Hit-Wonder
> Buck, but old fears die hard.)
>
> Meanwhile, while searching Hulu.com for some streaming-rerun goodness to
> download late at night, I happened across a half-dozen old sampled 80's
> episodes of "Elvira's Movie Macabre"....And while she's not
> *overwhelmingly* funny (except for �the standard scene-specific
> sarcastic host-seg digs at the movie), it's not Boobarella from "The
> Simpsons", either.
> More to the point, two of the listed episodes included host-hecklings of
> "Legacy of Blood" and "The Doomsday Machine". �Think CT's movie
> acquisition department shops at the same PD store.
> (And as to the movies themselves: �Yes. �The mind can say nothing but Oh
> Dear Gods. �Had "Legacy of Blood" aired during the Joel era, "Manos"
> would have had competition for Inexplicable status. �0_0'' )
>
> ...So, if I had to get my feet wet on either of those two Cinematic
> Titanic experiments for pay-download, would either of the two be worth
> the choice?
> Or is there another episode ideal for first timers?
> (And no, I'm not watching their "Santa/Martians" do-over, seeing as
> there was nothing wrong with the first one.)

"Legacy" is funnier IMO, though I have a soft spot for "Doomsday"
since that's the one I saw live.

And the bold revisit of "Santa vs. Martians" is just as funny as the
first go-round.

--
Reaper G
Pest, Foodie, MSTie, G-fan, Wrestlemaniac, and geek-at-large
http://reaper_g.livejournal.com
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