| Bit3 80 Column Mode with ATR8000 [message #170002] |
Thu, 07 November 2013 12:25  |
|
|
Originally posted by: Jason Harmon
I recently acquired an ATR8000 and was able to get it hooked up to my Atari 800 and use it both as an Atari drive controller and to boot into CP/M.
My 800 has a Bit3 80 column card in it, and I understand that the ATR8000 CP/M terminal emulator can support this, but I have no documentation of how to enable 80 column mode when going into CP/M.
Does anyone here have some information of how to do this that they could share with me?
Thanks.
Jason Harmon
|
|
|
|
| Re: Bit3 80 Column Mode with ATR8000 [message #171057 is a reply to message #170002] |
Fri, 08 November 2013 08:10  |
Steven Hirsch
Messages: 798
Registered: October 2012
Karma: 0
|
Senior Member |
|
|
On 11/07/2013 12:25 PM, Jason Harmon wrote:
> I recently acquired an ATR8000 and was able to get it hooked up to my Atari
> 800 and use it both as an Atari drive controller and to boot into CP/M.
>
> My 800 has a Bit3 80 column card in it, and I understand that the ATR8000
> CP/M terminal emulator can support this, but I have no documentation of how
> to enable 80 column mode when going into CP/M.
>
> Does anyone here have some information of how to do this that they could
> share with me?
I cannot help with the Bit3 card, but I do have to ask if you have a means for
duplicating the ATR8000 system diskettes. I have an ATR8000 that came to me
without software and have been unable to find the system software.
I inquired about this on one of the Atari forums, but never saw a response.
|
|
|
|
| Re: Bit3 80 Column Mode with ATR8000 [message #171173 is a reply to message #171057] |
Fri, 08 November 2013 10:24 |
|
|
Originally posted by: Jason Harmon
On Friday, November 8, 2013 8:10:43 AM UTC-5, Steven Hirsch wrote:
> On 11/07/2013 12:25 PM, Jason Harmon wrote:
>
>
>
>> I recently acquired an ATR8000 and was able to get it hooked up to my Atari
>
>> 800 and use it both as an Atari drive controller and to boot into CP/M.
>
>>
>
>> My 800 has a Bit3 80 column card in it, and I understand that the ATR8000
>
>> CP/M terminal emulator can support this, but I have no documentation of how
>
>> to enable 80 column mode when going into CP/M.
>
>>
>
>> Does anyone here have some information of how to do this that they could
>
>> share with me?
>
>
>
> I cannot help with the Bit3 card, but I do have to ask if you have a means for
>
> duplicating the ATR8000 system diskettes. I have an ATR8000 that came to me
>
> without software and have been unable to find the system software.
>
>
>
> I inquired about this on one of the Atari forums, but never saw a response.
I can certainly duplicate the Atari format disks that came with it and send you disk images. The CP/M disks may be more complex, but I will attempt that as well once get the drive cleaned and tuned up.
-Jason
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Re: Bit3 80 Column Mode with ATR8000 [message #171423 is a reply to message #171297] |
Fri, 08 November 2013 17:17 |
Steven Hirsch
Messages: 798
Registered: October 2012
Karma: 0
|
Senior Member |
|
|
On 11/08/2013 01:29 PM, Jason Harmon wrote:
> I've posted the two Atari disk images to:
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/lhpdmf1vn0r39gz/A_bTz1_71z
>
> The ATR8000 Auto-Term is the bootable Atari disk that loads the terminal to
> access the ATR8000. The other one appears to have support for the Bit3,
> but I have not figured out how to use it.
Thanks! I believe there is an issue where the first track (or is just the
first sector?) has a different sector size and this complicates re-generating
a working master from an ATR. I will try it out and see.
Steve
|
|
|
|
| Re: Bit3 80 Column Mode with ATR8000 [message #173626 is a reply to message #171423] |
Sun, 10 November 2013 10:18 |
|
|
Originally posted by: Jason Harmon
I think that issue relates to the CP/M boot disks, not the Atari format ones that contain Auto-Term. For the Atari ones I was able to use APE and an SIO2PC cable to make images and was able to recreate working Atari disks.
I understand that the CP/M ones are problematic for the reason you mention. Normally one could use an app link TeleDisk or ImageDisk on a DOS PC with a 360K floppy to make images and recreate disks, but the boot track format makes this difficult with the ATR8000 CP/M disks. I'm going to try to just create some new bootable physical disks, and then see if anything can be done to create a usable disk image. I have copies of CP/M, MS Basic, and Wordstar for the ATR8000, so I'm very interested to see if this works to be able to preserve them.
|
|
|
|
| Re: Bit3 80 Column Mode with ATR8000 [message #173742 is a reply to message #173626] |
Sun, 10 November 2013 12:00 |
Steven Hirsch
Messages: 798
Registered: October 2012
Karma: 0
|
Senior Member |
|
|
On 11/10/2013 10:18 AM, Jason Harmon wrote:
> I think that issue relates to the CP/M boot disks, not the Atari format
> ones that contain Auto-Term. For the Atari ones I was able to use APE and
> an SIO2PC cable to make images and was able to recreate working Atari
> disks.
>
> I understand that the CP/M ones are problematic for the reason you mention.
> Normally one could use an app link TeleDisk or ImageDisk on a DOS PC with a
> 360K floppy to make images and recreate disks, but the boot track format
> makes this difficult with the ATR8000 CP/M disks. I'm going to try to just
> create some new bootable physical disks, and then see if anything can be
> done to create a usable disk image. I have copies of CP/M, MS Basic, and
> Wordstar for the ATR8000, so I'm very interested to see if this works to be
> able to preserve them.
>
There's a discussion here about imaging the Indus CP/M diskettes. I suspect
the ATR8000 format may have the same issue:
http://trub.atari8.info/index.php?ref=indus_cpm_en
|
|
|
|
| Re: Bit3 80 Column Mode with ATR8000 [message #173743 is a reply to message #173626] |
Sun, 10 November 2013 12:10 |
Steven Hirsch
Messages: 798
Registered: October 2012
Karma: 0
|
Senior Member |
|
|
On 11/10/2013 10:18 AM, Jason Harmon wrote:
> I understand that the CP/M ones are problematic for the reason you mention.
> Normally one could use an app link TeleDisk or ImageDisk on a DOS PC with a
> 360K floppy to make images and recreate disks, but the boot track format
> makes this difficult with the ATR8000 CP/M disks. I'm going to try to just
> create some new bootable physical disks, and then see if anything can be
> done to create a usable disk image. I have copies of CP/M, MS Basic, and
> Wordstar for the ATR8000, so I'm very interested to see if this works to be
> able to preserve them.
Hit send too quickly on the last response... The CP/M images are the ones
I've been in need of. Dunfield's ImageDisk should be able to handle the mixed
sector sizing, although it may take a control file or set of option flags to
pull this off.
Contact me privately if you do extract any images and need them tested on
other machines. There have been a number of requests on the various Atari
forums for workable ATR images and the community could really benefit from
their availability.
Steve
|
|
|
|
|
|
Members
Search
Help
Register
Login
Home
