| Sega on the Computer [message #128939] |
Sat, 22 December 2007 17:04  |
Nobody
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It's just been something that I've been kicking around int he back
of my head for a while now, but, really, how difficult would it be to
create a Genesis or Game Gear card to put into a computer? Obviously
the question shows my lack of knowledge about programming, but it
seems that most of the stuff is right there. There could be some sort
of PCI card that would slide in and connect to a 5.25" "drive" with a
slot of the Sega game to plug into. Could even use a 3.5" for GG
games. It would be backward compatible to the SMS (there is the
powerbase convertor) and, perhaps, integrate the 32x into it as well.
Maybe even find a way to locate a ROM chip on there for the Sega CD,
since they do read through a CD-ROM. On the back of the card you could
even have two slots for connectors if you'd like. Maybe rip out a
Genesis 3 board, replace it with a G2 ROM chip that would integrate
with the CD and 32x?
I know there are emulators out there but it just seems that this
might be a bit more interesting. Just throwing the idea out there as
the group is a little slow.
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| Re: Sega on the Computer [message #128940 is a reply to message #128939] |
Sat, 22 December 2007 18:08  |
BelPowerslave
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> It's just been something that I've been kicking around int he back
> of my head for a while now, but, really, how difficult would it be to
> create a Genesis or Game Gear card to put into a computer? Obviously
> the question shows my lack of knowledge about programming, but it
> seems that most of the stuff is right there. There could be some sort
> of PCI card that would slide in and connect to a 5.25" "drive" with a
> slot of the Sega game to plug into. Could even use a 3.5" for GG
> games. It would be backward compatible to the SMS (there is the
> powerbase convertor) and, perhaps, integrate the 32x into it as well.
> Maybe even find a way to locate a ROM chip on there for the Sega CD,
> since they do read through a CD-ROM. On the back of the card you could
> even have two slots for connectors if you'd like. Maybe rip out a
> Genesis 3 board, replace it with a G2 ROM chip that would integrate
> with the CD and 32x?
> I know there are emulators out there but it just seems that this
> might be a bit more interesting. Just throwing the idea out there as
> the group is a little slow.
I've crossposted this as it's about the only way you're going to see any
kind of response, but also because KKC or Scott H may very well have
some info already on this(they are real techies). :)
Bel
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Whip Ass Gaming: http://www.whipassgaming.com/
"No I'm not playing hard to get, I'm telling you sir it's not that kind
of phone line!"
- Donatello, TMNT
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| Re: Sega on the Computer [message #128941 is a reply to message #128940] |
Sat, 22 December 2007 19:29 |
Kendrick Kerwin Chua
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In article <SNgbj.3565$GV4.377@trnddc05>,
BelPowerslave <bel@whipassgaming.com> wrote:
>> It's just been something that I've been kicking around int he back
>> of my head for a while now, but, really, how difficult would it be to
>> create a Genesis or Game Gear card to put into a computer? Obviously
>> the question shows my lack of knowledge about programming, but it
>> seems that most of the stuff is right there. There could be some sort
>> of PCI card that would slide in and connect to a 5.25" "drive" with a
<snip>
>> I know there are emulators out there but it just seems that this
>> might be a bit more interesting. Just throwing the idea out there as
>> the group is a little slow.
>
> I've crossposted this as it's about the only way you're going to see any
> kind of response, but also because KKC or Scott H may very well have
> some info already on this(they are real techies). :)
This is perfectly doable, and there's plenty of precedent. There was a PCI
card that allowed you to read 3DO games from the PC CD-ROM and has
controller ports on the back. It's rumored that the 3DFX VGA card with the
Saturn controller ports was intended as a toe in the water for a similar
(but unreleased) Saturn card.
The hard part in this instance is not the hardware, but the software. In a
nutshell you're essentially running an emulator, but you're passing all
the code through the real hardware rather than through an emulated 68000
and Z80. Then you'd need some code to take the RGB or digital video output
and encode it to be displayed in a window on the screen. Then you'd need
some control code to turn the hardware off and on, or at very least cut
power to the cartridge slot.
I have a very faint memory of a 386 PC that actually had a Megadrive built
into it. However, it was sort of an either/or affair, where by sliding a
door you covered the floppy drive and exposed a cartridge slot. The
computer portion of the device would be shut down and unusable while you
used the gaming portion, and vice versa. So you're not the first person
who's wanted to cram a Genesis into a computer, but your end goal is way
more ambitious. :)
Anyway, building such a beast would be way beyond my abilities. I'll skip
over the debate on how practical this is, if only because that's not
relevant when we're being hare-brained. :)
-KKC, girding up for the latest comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg flamewar...
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-- Universal survival rule #109 - Chicken nuggets must be served -- kendrick
in a quantity that is also a prime number. Failure to do so will -- @io.com
result in a geometric disturbance conducive to the resurrection of Cthulhu.
Disregard this rule if the meat in the nuggets is not actually chicken.
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| Re: Sega on the Computer [message #128942 is a reply to message #128941] |
Sat, 22 December 2007 19:41 |
dave
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"Kendrick Kerwin Chua" <kendrick@nospam.io> wrote in message
news:zIOdneiOeKxsNvDanZ2dnUVZ_vumnZ2d@io.com...
> In article <SNgbj.3565$GV4.377@trnddc05>,
> BelPowerslave <bel@whipassgaming.com> wrote:
>>> It's just been something that I've been kicking around int he back
>>> of my head for a while now, but, really, how difficult would it be to
>>> create a Genesis or Game Gear card to put into a computer? Obviously
>>> the question shows my lack of knowledge about programming, but it
>>> seems that most of the stuff is right there. There could be some sort
>>> of PCI card that would slide in and connect to a 5.25" "drive" with a
> <snip>
>>> I know there are emulators out there but it just seems that this
>>> might be a bit more interesting. Just throwing the idea out there as
>>> the group is a little slow.
>>
>> I've crossposted this as it's about the only way you're going to see any
>> kind of response, but also because KKC or Scott H may very well have
>> some info already on this(they are real techies). :)
>
> This is perfectly doable, and there's plenty of precedent. There was a PCI
> card that allowed you to read 3DO games from the PC CD-ROM and has
> controller ports on the back. It's rumored that the 3DFX VGA card with the
> Saturn controller ports was intended as a toe in the water for a similar
> (but unreleased) Saturn card.
>
> The hard part in this instance is not the hardware, but the software. In a
> nutshell you're essentially running an emulator, but you're passing all
> the code through the real hardware rather than through an emulated 68000
> and Z80. Then you'd need some code to take the RGB or digital video output
> and encode it to be displayed in a window on the screen. Then you'd need
> some control code to turn the hardware off and on, or at very least cut
> power to the cartridge slot.
>
> I have a very faint memory of a 386 PC that actually had a Megadrive built
> into it. However, it was sort of an either/or affair, where by sliding a
> door you covered the floppy drive and exposed a cartridge slot. The
> computer portion of the device would be shut down and unusable while you
> used the gaming portion, and vice versa. So you're not the first person
> who's wanted to cram a Genesis into a computer, but your end goal is way
> more ambitious. :)
>
> Anyway, building such a beast would be way beyond my abilities. I'll skip
> over the debate on how practical this is, if only because that's not
> relevant when we're being hare-brained. :)
>
> -KKC, girding up for the latest comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg flamewar...
> --
> -- Universal survival rule #109 - Chicken nuggets must be served --
> kendrick
> in a quantity that is also a prime number. Failure to do so will --
> @io.com
> result in a geometric disturbance conducive to the resurrection of
> Cthulhu.
> Disregard this rule if the meat in the nuggets is not actually chicken.
Amstrad Mega PC
dave
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| Re: Sega on the Computer [message #129021 is a reply to message #128942] |
Tue, 01 January 2008 10:41 |
Tim Miller
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dave wrote:
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> Amstrad Mega PC
>
That was just a Mega Drive stuck in one side of a PC box. You had to
slide the front to the left to get to the Mega Drive slot, and doing so
effectively turned the PC off and the Mega Drive on.
Tim (tm)
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| Re: Sega on the Computer [message #129062 is a reply to message #128941] |
Wed, 02 January 2008 19:14 |
AirRaid
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On Dec 22 2007, 4:29 pm, Kendrick Kerwin Chua <kendr...@nospam.io>
wrote:
It's rumored that the 3DFX VGA card with the
> Saturn controller ports was intended as a toe in the water for a similar
> (but unreleased) Saturn card.
>
there was no *3DFX* card with Saturn controller ports.
the card you are thinking of was the Diamond EDGE 3D card,
which used the first Nvidia chip: NV1
google it. or: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NV1
the Diamond EDGE / NV1 was a multi-media 3D, 2D, Audio, game-
controller port card with the Saturn controller ports and ports of
several Saturn games
(VF Remix, Panzer Dragoon)
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