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The TV version of STII, one scene was STILL missing [message #118862] Tue, 24 September 2013 14:55
dxa is currently offline  dxa
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Date: Mon, 4-Mar-85 17:05:04 EST
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My last posting contained my negative comments about the TV version of
STII - The Wrath of Kahn (TWOK).  I felt that most of the additions
would have been better off if they were left on the cutting room
floor.  Well, now its time to show my true wishy washy colors by
complaining about the one additional scene which I hoped to see but
did not.

I don't think that this one scene was ever filmed, but I wish that it
had been.  What I hoped would be added, is a scene which shows Kahn
watching the Enterprise warp away just before the Genesis explosion.
In both the TV and original version, Kahn dies before the Enterprise
warps away.  So Kahn dies thinking that he has won, he has killed
Kirk.

I realize, that since the Enterprise was leaving at maximum impulse
power, she would have been too far away for Kahn to see due to the
Nebula distorting the view screen.  But I'd be willing to overlook
this inconsistency to see Kahn's expression as Kirk escapes him yet
again.

The irony of this scene is that Kahn would die thinking that Kirk had
beaten him completely, when in reality, Kahn did "win" because as he
said earlier in the film, "I've done worse than kill you, I've hurt
you." And certainly Spock's death was the only thing that could hurt
Kirk worse than his own death.

Oh well.  I guess the only way for anyone to see a movie which they
agree with every detail filmed is to be rich enough to have complete
control over its production.  (Anybody got $100 mil?)  But then, I
enjoy movies the most when I have no knowledge of the plot before
hand.  That way everything is a surprise.  I guess I just can't win.


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Re: The TV version of STII, one scene was STILL missing [message #120090 is a reply to message #118862] Sun, 24 March 1985 00:29 Go to previous message
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Posted: Sun Mar 24 00:29:38 1985
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 >  I realize, that since the Enterprise was leaving at maximum impulse
 >  power, she would have been too far away for Kahn to see due to the
 >  Nebula distorting the view screen.


If you remember the Nebula would distort the view screen, and  it
was distorting it somewhat.  You also have to remember that Kahn
might have had a greater magnification set than just normal magnification.

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