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Pointers please? [message #115629] Wed, 18 September 2013 18:10 Go to next message
victoro%Nosc is currently offline  victoro%Nosc
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I am looking for stories dealing with racial memory or group minds.
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Re: Pointers please? [message #115686 is a reply to message #115629] Wed, 18 September 2013 18:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: @RUTGERS.ARPA:Susser.PASA@Xerox.ARPA
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From: Susser.PASA@XEROX.ARPA

> I am looking for stories dealing with racial memory or group minds.

The Fire Lizards in Anne McCaffrey's Pern series had racial memory.  So
did Paul Muad'dib Atreides ("Dune") and his children and his sister
Alia.  Keith Laumer's "The Infinite Cage" has a character who can draw
upon the memories of all of humanity somewhat telepathically.

Group minds?  Heinlein had something in "Methusula's Children" (in the
collection "The Past Through Tomorrow") about The Little People.  Also
the alien enemy bug thingies in "Starship Troopers".  And "I Will Fear
No Evil" had a group of minds in a single body.  "The Puppet Masters"
were kind of a group mind (this story was ripped-off into a Star Trek
episode where a blob of Jello-slime flies onto Spock's back and tries to
take over his body).  Varley had an interesting version of a group mind
in "The Persistence of Vision".  And Gaea ("Titan", "Wizard", "Demon")
could fragment herself into a group of minds.  Also, Varley's Symb-human
pairs that lived in the Rings of Saturn ("Equinoctial") experienced a
very loose form of group mind (mostly due to mating!).  The basic
conflict in Haldeman's "Forever War" hinged upon the incompatibilities
of group and discrete minds.  Julian May's Galactic Milieu ("The Saga of
the Pliocene Exile") had a sort of Galactic group mind called Unity.
Movies -- Nestor in "Battle Beyond the Stars" was a group mind
(hillarious scene of one Nestor eating a hot-dog and all of them
chewing).

And to all you people in net land:  I remember a short story (by
Heinlein or Asimov?) that involved a starship manned by a multi-racial
crew coming to evacuate Earth before Sol goes nova.  A few of the crew
were part of a group mind.  This was important when a landing party was
trapped in a trans-Atlantic subway and cut off from radio
communications.  Anyone know the author/title?

That's all I can think of off the top of my head, but it should keep you
busy for a while.

--Josh

Nestor: "That's okay, we always carry a spare."
Re: Pointers please? [message #117449 is a reply to message #115629] Mon, 23 September 2013 18:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In article <616@topaz.ARPA> @RUTGERS.ARPA:Susser.PASA@Xerox.ARPA writes:

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>And to all you people in net land:  I remember a short story (by
>Heinlein or Asimov?) that involved a starship manned by a multi-racial
>crew coming to evacuate Earth before Sol goes nova.  A few of the crew
>were part of a group mind.  This was important when a landing party was
>trapped in a trans-Atlantic subway and cut off from radio
>communications.  Anyone know the author/title?
>

>--Josh

  I dont know where you got idea that Heinlein or Asimov , wrote the story , 
in fact it was written by Aurthur C. Clarke and was called "Rescue Party".

  As far as the USENET poll goes ; keep the votes rolling in !!


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Re: Re: Pointers [message #117494 is a reply to message #117449] Mon, 23 September 2013 18:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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From: Julian R. Long 


Subject: Re: Pointers please?

>I am looking for stories dealing with racial memory or group minds.

>And to all you people in net land: I remember a short story (by
>Heinlein or Asimov?) that involved a starship manned by a
>multi-racial crew coming to evacuate Earth before Sol goes nova.  A
>few of the crew were part of a group mind.  This was important when
>a landing party was trapped in a trans-Atlantic subway and cut off
>from radio communications.  Anyone know the author/title?

>--Josh

The story is called "Rescue" by Authur C Clark , it can be found in  
more than one book of short stories . It is very good , one of my 
favourite Clark short stories with a good ending .

-Julian Long
Re: Pointers please? [message #117508 is a reply to message #115629] Mon, 23 September 2013 18:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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From: Hank Shiffman 

    From: Susser.PASA@XEROX.ARPA
    Subject: Re: Pointers please?

    And to all you people in net land: I remember a short story (by
    Heinlein or Asimov?) that involved a starship manned by a
    multi-racial crew coming to evacuate Earth before Sol goes nova.  A
    few of the crew were part of a group mind.  This was important when
    a landing party was trapped in a trans-Atlantic subway and cut off
    from radio communications.  Anyone know the author/title?

That was by Clarke.  I think the story was called "Rescue Party" or
something similar.
Re: Pointers please? [message #118670 is a reply to message #115629] Tue, 24 September 2013 14:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> Article <616@topaz.ARPA>, from @RUTGERS.ARPA:Susser.PASA@Xerox.ARPA
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| > I am looking for stories dealing with racial memory or group minds.
| 
| The Fire Lizards in Anne McCaffrey's Pern series had racial memory.  So
| did Paul Muad'dib Atreides ("Dune") and his children and his sister
| Alia.  Keith Laumer's "The Infinite Cage" has a character who can draw
| upon the memories of all of humanity somewhat telepathically.
|

There are two kinds of racial memory (of sorts) in Clarke's CHILDHOOD'S END:
when Joan "remembered" the catalog designation of the Overlords' home
base, and a vcurious kind of "inverse" racial memory linking the last
days of the human race to the shape of the Overlords, resulting in the
classical image of the devil back in our prehistory (racial memory as a
tape loop?).

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| And to all you people in net land:  I remember a short story (by
| Heinlein or Asimov?) that involved a starship manned by a multi-racial
| crew coming to evacuate Earth before Sol goes nova.  A few of the crew
| were part of a group mind.  This was important when a landing party was
| trapped in a trans-Atlantic subway and cut off from radio
| communications.  Anyone know the author/title?

Clarke again.  I think it was "RESCUE MISSION"; it's in THE SENTINEL.

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Re: Pointers please? [message #118731 is a reply to message #115629] Tue, 24 September 2013 14:33 Go to previous message
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Summary: Racial Memory


	How about ORN by Piers Anthony.

	This one dealt with a species of flightless birds that evolved a
	racial memory as a survival mechanism.

			Derek S. Keeping
			{allegra,inhp4,utcsrgv}!garfield!derek2
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