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This is posted for Dave Kliman  (Drexel!dave)... 

What is "the prisoner"?  Could someone out there please explain 
to me what that series is all about?
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> What is "the prisoner"?  Could someone out there please explain 
> to me what that series is all about?

*** REPLACE THIS village WITH YOUR prisoner ***

It has been said before, but quickly:  The Prisoner is a show about
a secret agent who quits, is kidnapped by evil forces, and is held
prisoner in a place called The Village (suurounded by The Sea, The 
Mountains, etc.).  It is an excellent show and deserves a net.tv.prisoner.
Check your local PBS station for times.

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One thing I always felt was a bit "off" in THE PRISONER: With a number
like "6", he should have been high in the ruling heirarchy, with duties
to perform in the running of the Village, and subordinates under his
control, and for whom he should be responsible. This doesn't jibe with
the reason for him being put in there. I recall him being pressured to
take part in certain Village activities, and otherwise "play his role",
which he resisted. Having an uncooperative low-numbered person would
put a crimp (cramp?) in the functioning of the Village. I always thought it
would have been better if he had been "Number 47" or "Number 238" or
something, instead of "Number 6".

Will Martin

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I always had the impression that Number 6 had a low number for several reasons:

1. He had been an important person who had disagreed with his higher-ups, and
thus was too knowledgeable to fire or dispose of in any other way except 
sending him the the Village. He had a high number because of his former 
position in the power structure that had put him in the Village;

2. His ablility to thwart his captors repeatedly led them to respect him, thus
they were always trying to get him to buy into their system. Part of their 
persuasion was to give him a high rank (number) in the Village;

3. It seemed he had been there for a long time, while other members of the
cast came and went. Perhaps he had a lower number because of the length of
his stay.

Did you ever see the episode(s) where he met Number 1? I saw this series so
many years ago , I can't remember exactly what happened, but I thought
Number 6 recognized him. Number 6 was obviously part of the whole structure
which was keeping him captive (or had been at one time). 

I have been looking for this series to be rebroadcasted on PBS for years now.
I originally saw it on WNET, New York, but have not seen it again there or
in any other city. Any info on the series would be welcome.

Solveig Whittle

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	"With a number like "6", he should have been high in the ruling
heirarchy"

	"You are forgetting that no one was above suspicion in the village,
even number two."

Also, it was pointed out in a number of episodes that Number 6 was
somehow "special".  Number 2 always had orders that Number 6 was not to
be harmed.  His number reflects his status.  Evidently, the Village just
had a smaller ruling hierarchy than say your typical large American
corporation.  What I always wanted to know is who were Numbers 3, 4, and
5.  I don't recall a single mention of them.

			- Michel

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> One thing I always felt was a bit "off" in THE PRISONER: With a number
> like "6", he should have been high in the ruling heirarchy, with duties
> to perform in the running of the Village, and subordinates under his
> control, and for whom he should be responsible. This doesn't jibe with
> the reason for him being put in there. I recall him being pressured to
> take part in certain Village activities, and otherwise "play his role",
> which he resisted. Having an uncooperative low-numbered person would
> put a crimp (cramp?) in the functioning of the Village. I always thought it
> would have been better if he had been "Number 47" or "Number 238" or
> something, instead of "Number 6".

You are forgetting that no one was above suspicion in the village, even
number two.  Remember the last two episodes, where they show the
underground chambers?  To my mind, they were an intentional counterpart
to the observation room, which they resembled somewhat.  I.e., in the
observation room you had the "rotating see-saw cammeras", while below
ground, where the people who really ran things were, you had the
rotating see-saw machine guns.

Also, I think this discussion should move elsewhere.  Maybe sf-lovers or
new.tv?

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> One thing I always felt was a bit "off" in THE PRISONER: With a number
) like "6".  I always thought
> it would have been better if he had been "Number 47" or "Number 238" or
> something, instead of "Number 6".

*** REPLACE THIS spy WITH number six! ***

Everything they did was part of the plan to send him over the edge
so he would talk.  Giving him a high number, but no control I thought
was very clever.  A bit of a mind twist.  Also, I feel that most (95%)
of the people there are trying to break number 6, so that would make him
very high man on the Village totem pole.

"I am not a number!"     -Number Six

msw
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