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Space: 1999 [message #112966] Mon, 16 September 2013 13:57 Go to next message
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Date: Thu, 10-Jan-85 01:53:48 EST
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Space: 1999 wasn't really that bad. I actually enjoyed some of the programs.

Cheryl Nemeth
Re: Space: 1999 [message #113002 is a reply to message #112966] Mon, 16 September 2013 13:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Date: Fri, 11-Jan-85 20:44:55 EST
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> Space: 1999 wasn't really that bad. I actually enjoyed some of the programs.
> 
> Cheryl Nemeth

*** Damn it Helena, DO SOMETHING! ***

   No it wasn't, of course there was nothing else on at the time.
Unfortunately, what I thought was the best of all their episodes was the
one I think was entitled 'War Games' in which Moonbase Alpha gets attacked
by what appears to be an earth attack fleet and gets totally wiped out.
They then wake up and find it's all a dream being caused by the planet
they're approaching.  Loads of special effects.
   The only thing I really had a hard time with, other than the fact the
moon must have been traveling at hyper-speed or falling into space warps
right and left) was the alien women character in the second season who
could change her shape into anything.  I can't remember her name (something
like Myra) but she was played by Catherine Schnell.  I just cannot accept
that a 110-120 pound person can change into a 200lb panther and then into
an insect!  Something about conservation of mass and energy.  If mass and
energy are truly the same then a 300lb monster would have no energy left and
a tiny fly would have so much it probally couldn't contain it.
   I did like the designs of the Eagle Transporters and the Hawk attack ships,
I thought they looked quite realistic and the concept of the cargo modules
made sense, although you probally had to be carefull about fancy manouvers
if you wern't carrying a cargo section as it must have strengthend the
entire framework.

-- 
Kevin Thompson   {ucbvax,ihnp4!nsc}!voder!kevin

"It's sort of a threat, you see.  I've never been very good at them
  myself but I'm told they can be very effective."
Re: Space: 1999 [message #113003 is a reply to message #112966] Mon, 16 September 2013 13:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The alien woman you refer to was named ''Mia'' (maybe it was spelled
Mya, I dunno, but it was pronounced ''Mie-ya'').  I seem to recall an
episode in the second season, when they made a brief reference to picking
her up from some doomed planet (maybe it was a doomed society; I remember
her father (i.e. alien father) was in it and wasn't such a good guy),
in which they said her mass was conserved during all transformation;
thus, if she became an insect, she was a VERY dense one, and if a panther,
a very undense (undense?) one.  
Re: Space: 1999 [message #113076 is a reply to message #112966] Mon, 16 September 2013 13:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Catherine Schell played the role of Maya, who as orphaned on  the
Zooming  Moon  when  her  (decidedly)  evil father managed to get
their planet destroyed.  There was no  mention  at  all  of  mass
conservation,   although   some  interesting  references  to  her
superior mental powers were made. Her ability  to  change  shapes
was  not  explained  in any detail. The change was instantaneous,
and she had to have  had  some  sort  of  previous  contact  (she
couldn't make up a monster and become it).

Although I didn't like the way they did up her eyebrows, I always
thought  she  was  cute.  I thought she was cute in Return of the
Pink Panther too.

Sean
Re: Space: 1999 [message #113093 is a reply to message #112966] Mon, 16 September 2013 13:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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From: Jim Hester 

The following is from "Fantastic Telivision": a reference book to many
TV-SF serials, and ancient memories.

The spelling of the alien's name was "Maya."  She came from the planet
Psychon.  In four pages of description, the only things "Fantastic
Television" had to say about her were "He (Fred Freiberger - producer
for the second season) also wanted to add new characters, most
significantly an alien named Maya who would serve as Alpha's science
officer" and "The introduction of Maya, however was not the wisest
move.  Audiences looked upon her as a gimmick---a Mr. Spock rip-off, a
token, rather than a resident, alien."  The pertinant details from the
index of episodes follows:

THE METAMORPH:  This first episode of the (second) season ...
introduces Maya to the regular cast.  On the planet Psychon, an
evil-minded alien named Mentor captures the Alphans and tries to drain
their minds.  His daughter Maya who is capable of transforming herself
into any form, helps the Earth people escape.

I vaguely recall this episode.  Their planet was doomed, reason
unremembered.  Mentor had created a 'protein computer' which had
transmutation abilities, but it got it's power from intelligent beings,
using them up in the process.  Maya's father was killing off everyone
in sight trying to charge the computer up to save his planet, and just
about killed off the Space 1999 regulars before Maya finally discovered
him and destroyed the computer, which set off a chain reaction killing
her father and destroying the planet (or at least making it
uninhabitable).  Thus she joined the Alphans.

There was one other episode that had a criminal from her planet who had
been put into some kind of suspended animation and cast adrift.  Same
plot: Maya believed everything he said up until the end when she found
him out and betrayed him.  The episode was called "DORZAK", which was
presumably his name.  The description given in the index is worthless.
Re: Space: 1999 [message #113115 is a reply to message #112966] Mon, 16 September 2013 13:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Date: Sat, 19-Jan-85 18:16:25 EST
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> Article <625@voder.UUCP>, from kevin@voder.UUCP (The Last Bugfighter)
+----------------
|    The only thing I really had a hard time with, other than the fact the
| moon must have been traveling at hyper-speed or falling into space warps
| right and left)

As I remember it, spacewarps played a large part in quite a few episodes.
They went through one just before they got to Psychon (see below); they
passed through a black hole as (I think) the third episode, surviving
because they had a super gravity warp they devised as a result of their
being blasted away in the first place (don't you just *love* it); they
went through one while leaving some people behind inspecting an alien
vessel (which just happened to have a spacewarp detector in it), et
cetera.   They also went through one just prior to returning to Earth
every time they did return (but I'm not certain of that).  Time was thrown
off by these spacewarps, I believe.

+----------------
|		was the alien women character in the second season who
| could change her shape into anything.  I can't remember her name (something
| like Myra) but she was played by Catherine Schnell.  I just cannot accept

Maia, played by Catherine SCHELL.

| that a 110-120 pound person can change into a 200lb panther and then into
| an insect!  Something about conservation of mass and energy.  If mass and
| energy are truly the same then a 300lb monster would have no energy left and
| a tiny fly would have so much it probally couldn't contain it.

I can (barely) see the massiveness question; although how a 120 lb insect
could move, I know not... but what really threw me was the fact that
she could transmute in the first place.  How did she hold 120 lbs = 4.889e25
ergs (thank you, "units" :-) of energy together without turning herself
(and the moon) into a mushroom cloud?  Or were her shape changes reminiscent
of a Tleilaxu Face Dancer?

|    I did like the designs of the Eagle Transporters and the Hawk attack ships,
| I thought they looked quite realistic and the concept of the cargo modules
| made sense, although you probally had to be carefull about fancy manouvers
| if you wern't carrying a cargo section as it must have strengthend the
| entire framework.

Eccept that they always flew with SOME kind of module; the cargo module
(plain), or the bomb module (red striped), or *something*.  (Amazing
what you can remember of rotten shows; it just proves the saying about
bad news vs. good news...)

--bsa
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Re: Space: 1999 [message #113116 is a reply to message #112966] Mon, 16 September 2013 13:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Date: Fri, 18-Jan-85 22:31:46 EST
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> Article <3268@alice.UUCP>, from alb@alice.UUCP (Adam L. Buchsbaum)
+----------------
| The alien woman you refer to was named ''Mia'' (maybe it was spelled
| Mya, I dunno, but it was pronounced ''Mie-ya'').

Maia.  (That was a low point; all the SF I could find at the time was
Star Trek I was watching for the 6000th time, and that.  Thankfully,
we started going to a larger library soon after that (my mother needed
her fix of SF too, it runs in the family).

--bsa
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Re: Space: 1999 [message #114235 is a reply to message #112966] Tue, 17 September 2013 15:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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[What you can't eat can't hurt you]

	Since Maia COULD fly when she became honey bees, and her leaves
didn't plunge to the ground when she became ordinary house plants,
the conservation of mass wasn't in her physics book.  So....

	How about some applied TARDIS technology?  (Don't get on my
case, Who-ites, I know this isn't exactly 100% right.)

	Maia projects herself into a fourth dimension, and then
reprojects herself into this dimension with altered size and mass.  This
also conveniently explains how her considerable intelligence would fit
into those tiny, tiny brains (well, not really, but pretend it does).

	She DID believe in conversation of life (she couldn't change
into anything which wasn't living, even if she thought it was).  That I
CAN'T fathom.

				-- Alan
				(..tektronix!reed!schmidt)
Re: Space: 1999 [message #114254 is a reply to message #112966] Tue, 17 September 2013 15:20 Go to previous message
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The thing that most struck me about the early shows of 1999 was the
shoot first and ask questions later philosophy they operated on (My whole
family collectively decided not to watch the later shows).  Whenever
they ran into anything strange their first response seemed to be 
send out some eagles and shoot it down.  This might have been understandable
except for the fact that what ever they sent the eagles against was either
1. totally dead
2. So advanced as to make their eagles look like a tonka truck
(Captain, rather badly constructed space craft using reaction engines
are tickling our sheilds with low powered laser weapons.  Kirk: set 
phasers to stun, we don't want to hurt those primatives)
The only reason the eagles survived was that the superadvanced types
they tried to shoot down usually didn't recognize them as weapons.
-David Sher
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