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Zelazny novels on Dilvish ? [message #112880] Mon, 16 September 2013 13:56 Go to next message
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	Have others read the Zelazny novels about the character Dilvish ?
Any comments ?
	I enjoyed them quite a bit. I first read "The Changing Land" but
then picked up the other one (I forget its title). This seconds takes place
before "The Changing Land" but was apparently published after it. Anyone
know the story behind this curiousity ?
	Any other novels coming on Dilvish ?

					Dan
Re: Zelazny novels on Dilvish ? [message #112883 is a reply to message #112880] Mon, 16 September 2013 13:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Do you mean 'Dilvish the Damned'?  This was billed as a collection of short
stories, I think, though they do sort of tie together.  The stories concern
Dilvish's search for Jelerak, and one tells why Jelerak damned Dilvish in the
first place. [Dilvish interrupted him when he was about to perform a human
sacrifice for some 'black' reason.]  It doesn't say much about how Dilvish 
got out of hell, though.

If there are other Dilvish stories, I'd like to know about them.

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Re: Zelazny novels on Dilvish ? [message #112898 is a reply to message #112880] Mon, 16 September 2013 13:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In article <> mjc@cmu-cs-cad.ARPA (Monica Cellio) writes:
>Do you mean 'Dilvish the Damned'?  This was billed as a collection of short
>stories, I think, though they do sort of tie together.
>...
>...				It doesn't say much about how Dilvish 
>got out of hell, though.
>...
>If there are other Dilvish stories, I'd like to know about them.
>

The other book is 'The Changing Land'.  I've read both of them and
enjoyed both of them.  
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Re: Zelazny novels on Dilvish ? [message #112926 is a reply to message #112880] Mon, 16 September 2013 13:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> 	I first read "The Changing Land" but
> then picked up the other one (I forget its title). This seconds takes place
> before "The Changing Land" but was apparently published after it. Anyone
> know the story behind this curiousity ?

I assume that Zelazny first wrote "The Changing Land" and then decided
that Dilvish was an interesting enough character that he wrote
"Dilvish, the Damned" (which I haven't read yet).  Does anyone know if
the same thing (chronology in story is the opposite of publication
order) happens with "To Die in Italbar" and "Isle of the Dead"?
(Actually, it's not even clear to me which of those 2 stories is
supposed to happen first.)
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Re: Zelazny novels on Dilvish ? [message #112992 is a reply to message #112880] Mon, 16 September 2013 13:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In article <4110@ucbvax.ARPA> kupfer@ucbvax.ARPA (Mike Kupfer) writes:
>> 	I first read "The Changing Land" but
>> then picked up the other one (I forget its title). This seconds takes place
>> before "The Changing Land" but was apparently published after it. Anyone
>> know the story behind this curiousity ?
>
>I assume that Zelazny first wrote "The Changing Land" and then decided
>that Dilvish was an interesting enough character that he wrote
>"Dilvish, the Damned" (which I haven't read yet).  Does anyone know if
>the same thing (chronology in story is the opposite of publication
>order) happens with "To Die in Italbar" and "Isle of the Dead"?
>(Actually, it's not even clear to me which of those 2 stories is
>supposed to happen first.)
>-- 

As I understand it, the stories in "Dilvish, the Damned" appeared in
various magazines during the 60's and 70's.  Zelazny wrote "The
Changing Land" as a finale, and apparently decided to publish an
anthology of all of the other Dilvish stories when "The Changing Land"
did reasonably well.

On a different track, does anybody know if Zelazny is going to write
any more Amber novels?  I heard a rumor on the net about a year ago
that he had contracted to write 3 more and that the first would be out
in October, but I haven't seen it yet.

Mike Shaddock
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Re: Zelazny novels on Dilvish ? [message #114224 is a reply to message #112880] Tue, 17 September 2013 15:20 Go to previous message
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> x
> 	Have others read the Zelazny novels about the character Dilvish ?
> Any comments ?
> 	I enjoyed them quite a bit. I first read "The Changing Land" but
> then picked up the other one (I forget its title). This seconds takes place
> before "The Changing Land" but was apparently published after it. Anyone
> know the story behind this curiousity ?
> 	Any other novels coming on Dilvish ?
> 
> 					Dan

	The other book "Dilvish the Damned" is composed of short stories,
which were published in other places before being collected into the
book. I haven't heard anything about a new Dilvish book, but the question
reminds me - has any one heard anything about the Amber books that were
rumored to be in the works?
				Jeremy Sanders
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