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SSD in a G5 [message #99400] Wed, 24 July 2013 20:58 Go to next message
ah...clem is currently offline  ah...clem
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anyone had success putting an SSD in a G5 and getting the maximum speed out
of it? issues i'm aware of include the native SATA-1 interface, which will
limit speed to a theoretical max of 187.5 MB/s, regardless of how fast the
SSD itself is. the way around that is to use an expansion slot and a
SATA-2 or SATA-3 controller. problem is, i'm having a hard time finding a
PCI-e SATA-3 controller that's compatible and bootable. i tried one of the
Apricorn Velocity Solo cards (PCI-e/sata-3 controller and carrier for 2.5"
SSD), and it is indeed bootable in a 2009 MacPro, but it is invisible in my
G5 quad. system profiler and disk utility don't even know it's there.
it's "supposed" to work in ANY computer with a PCI-e slot. waiting to hear
back from customer support.

one bit of good news i can share is that at $43 (sans drive) it was an
appealing alternative to the much more costly Sonnet cards, and
outrageously expensive Accelsior cards, and it works flawlessly in a
MacPro, delivering a read/write speed of 480 MB/s (if your SSD is up to
it), just not the G5 i intended it for.

anyone have any other suggestions, or success stories with other hdwe? TIA
for all replies.

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Re: SSD in a G5 [message #99401 is a reply to message #99400] Wed, 24 July 2013 22:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Trim is outside the realm of possibility. Not sure If doing an erase free space procedure monthly or so would help a bit. Modern drive "garbage collection" is pretty good. Anybody got any benchmarks? I picked up a velociraptor to use in an old G4 rather than try to work through SSD issues.

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On Jul 24, 2013, at 7:58 PM, "ah...clem" <boneheads239@gmail.com> wrote:

> anyone had success putting an SSD in a G5 and getting the maximum speed out of it? issues i'm aware of include the native SATA-1 interface, which will limit speed to a theoretical max of 187.5 MB/s, regardless of how fast the SSD itself is. the way around that is to use an expansion slot and a SATA-2 or SATA-3 controller. problem is, i'm having a hard time finding a PCI-e SATA-3 controller that's compatible and bootable. i tried one of the Apricorn Velocity Solo cards (PCI-e/sata-3 controller and carrier for 2.5" SSD), and it is indeed bootable in a 2009 MacPro, but it is invisible in my G5 quad. system profiler and disk utility don't even know it's there. it's "supposed" to work in ANY computer with a PCI-e slot. waiting to hear back from customer support.

>

> one bit of good news i can share is that at $43 (sans drive) it was an appealing alternative to the much more costly Sonnet cards, and outrageously expensive Accelsior cards, and it works flawlessly in a MacPro, delivering a read/write speed of 480 MB/s (if your SSD is up to it), just not the G5 i intended it for.

>

> anyone have any other suggestions, or success stories with other hdwe? TIA for all replies.

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Re: SSD in a G5 [message #100267 is a reply to message #99401] Mon, 29 July 2013 18:34 Go to previous message
Martin N is currently offline  Martin N
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Hello,

While trim is not going to be supported (unless
there is some third party utility) The SSDs firmware
will perform the garbage collection without the OSes help.

I was thinking about a velociraptor myself for a
fast boot drive but what about a segate momentus
hybrid SSHD?
It caches reads and learns the most used programs like those used at boot.
Writes are just the same as a spinner though.

Not sure about the noise of the raptor as well as
the SSHD will be faster assuming the firmware
GC is up to the job.

Martin N

At 03:00 25/07/2013, you wrote:
> Trim is outside the realm of possibility. Not

> sure If doing an erase free space procedure

> monthly or so would help a bit. Modern drive

> "garbage collection" is pretty good. Anybody got

> any benchmarks? I picked up a velociraptor to

> use in an old G4 rather than try to work through SSD issues.

>

> Sent from my mobile device.

>

> On Jul 24, 2013, at 7:58 PM, "ah...clem"

> <<mailto:boneheads239@gmail.com>boneheads239@gmail.com> wrote:

>

>> anyone had success putting an SSD in a G5 and

>> getting the maximum speed out of it? issues

>> i'm aware of include the native SATA-1

>> interface, which will limit speed to a

>> theoretical max of 187.5 MB/s, regardless of

>> how fast the SSD itself is. the way around

>> that is to use an expansion slot and a SATA-2

>> or SATA-3 controller. problem is, i'm having a

>> hard time finding a PCI-e SATA-3 controller

>> that's compatible and bootable. i tried one of

>> the Apricorn Velocity Solo cards (PCI-e/sata-3

>> controller and carrier for 2.5" SSD), and it is

>> indeed bootable in a 2009 MacPro, but it is

>> invisible in my G5 quad. system profiler and

>> disk utility don't even know it's there. it's

>> "supposed" to work in ANY computer with a PCI-e

>> slot. waiting to hear back from customer support.

>>

>> one bit of good news i can share is that at $43

>> (sans drive) it was an appealing alternative to

>> the much more costly Sonnet cards, and

>> outrageously expensive Accelsior cards, and it

>> works flawlessly in a MacPro, delivering a

>> read/write speed of 480 MB/s (if your SSD is up

>> to it), just not the G5 i intended it for.

>>

>> anyone have any other suggestions, or success

>> stories with other hdwe? TIA for all replies.

>

> Those who would give up essential Liberty, to

> purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

> Benjamin Franklin (1706–90)


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