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Re: Comics-into-Film Watch: Master list. [message #93949] Tue, 01 March 2011 00:08 Go to next message
michael[1] is currently offline  michael[1]
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Duggy wrote:

> Thor

> Captain America

> X-Men First Class

> Iron Man 3

> The Amazing Spider-man

> Antman

> Black Cat

> Fury

> Fantastic 4 1

> Wolverine 2

> Red Sonja


I think this would either be Robert E. Howard or Dynamite/whoever's
doing the comics now.

> Not all of these are going to happen, some are just the hope of actos

> cast a role in other films...

> Any others?


Did you forget Avengers, or do I just not see it?

Michael
Re: Comics-into-Film Watch: Master list. [message #93950 is a reply to message #93949] Tue, 01 March 2011 02:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Mar 1, 3:08 pm, Michael <thissp...@for.rent> wrote:
> Duggy wrote:

>> Red Sonja

> I think this would either be Robert E. Howard or Dynamite/whoever's

> doing the comics now.


If it was Howard it would be with a y. Dynamite's doing her now, but
it would be however owns here.
As she was created at Marvel I added her here.

>> Not all of these are going to happen, some are just the hope of actos

>> cast a role in other films...

>> Any others?

> Did you forget Avengers, or do I just not see it?


I did. How crazy is that?

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Re: Comics-into-Film Watch: Master list. [message #93955 is a reply to message #93949] Tue, 01 March 2011 18:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 21:08:08 -0800, Michael <thisspace@for.rent>
wrote:

> Duggy wrote:

>

>> Thor

>> Captain America

>> X-Men First Class

>> Iron Man 3

>> The Amazing Spider-man

>> Antman

>> Black Cat

>> Fury

>> Fantastic 4 1

>> Wolverine 2

>> Red Sonja

>

> I think this would either be Robert E. Howard or Dynamite/whoever's

> doing the comics now.


Well, the character as we know her isn't technically a Robert E.
Howard creation.

>> Not all of these are going to happen, some are just the hope of actos

>> cast a role in other films...

>> Any others?

>

> Did you forget Avengers, or do I just not see it?

>

> Michael
Re: Comics-into-Film Watch: Master list. [message #93957 is a reply to message #93955] Tue, 01 March 2011 19:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 17:59:04 -0600, grinningdemon
<grinningdemon@austin.rr.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 21:08:08 -0800, Michael <thisspace@for.rent>

> wrote:

>

>> Duggy wrote:

>>

>>> Thor

>>> Captain America

>>> X-Men First Class

>>> Iron Man 3

>>> The Amazing Spider-man

>>> Antman

>>> Black Cat

>>> Fury

>>> Fantastic 4 1

>>> Wolverine 2

>>> Red Sonja

>>

>> I think this would either be Robert E. Howard or Dynamite/whoever's

>> doing the comics now.

>

> Well, the character as we know her isn't technically a Robert E.

> Howard creation.


That may depend on which lawyer you ask. Currently, the Howard people
and the people who own "Red Sonja" are paying each other a one-dollar
settlement essentially to share the rights. Also, the producers of
the '80s Red Sonja film felt it necessary to credit Howard as the
character's creator.

Regardless of any of that, Michael is correct. Marvel doesn't have
the rights to any version of the character any more; her adventures
are being chronicled by Dynamite.
Re: Comics-into-Film Watch: Master list. [message #93979 is a reply to message #93957] Wed, 02 March 2011 12:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tim Turnip wrote:
> On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 17:59:04 -0600, grinningdemon

> <grinningdemon@austin.rr.com> wrote:

>

>

>> On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 21:08:08 -0800, Michael <thisspace@for.rent>

>> wrote:

>>

>>

>>> Duggy wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>> Thor

>>>> Captain America

>>>> X-Men First Class

>>>> Iron Man 3

>>>> The Amazing Spider-man

>>>> Antman

>>>> Black Cat

>>>> Fury

>>>> Fantastic 4 1

>>>> Wolverine 2

>>>> Red Sonja

>>>

>>> I think this would either be Robert E. Howard or Dynamite/whoever's

>>> doing the comics now.

>>

>> Well, the character as we know her isn't technically a Robert E.

>> Howard creation.

>

>

> That may depend on which lawyer you ask. Currently, the Howard people

> and the people who own "Red Sonja" are paying each other a one-dollar

> settlement essentially to share the rights. Also, the producers of

> the '80s Red Sonja film felt it necessary to credit Howard as the

> character's creator.

>

> Regardless of any of that, Michael is correct. Marvel doesn't have

> the rights to any version of the character any more; her adventures

> are being chronicled by Dynamite.


And, FWIW, the Conan film is likely to be headed straight to DVD some
year a'la Solomon Kane, which is available and not too bad.

Michael
Re: Comics-into-Film Watch: Master list. [message #93983 is a reply to message #93957] Wed, 02 March 2011 19:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 18:05:47 -0600, Tim Turnip <timturnip@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 17:59:04 -0600, grinningdemon

> <grinningdemon@austin.rr.com> wrote:

>

>> On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 21:08:08 -0800, Michael <thisspace@for.rent>

>> wrote:

>>

>>> Duggy wrote:

>>>

>>>> Thor

>>>> Captain America

>>>> X-Men First Class

>>>> Iron Man 3

>>>> The Amazing Spider-man

>>>> Antman

>>>> Black Cat

>>>> Fury

>>>> Fantastic 4 1

>>>> Wolverine 2

>>>> Red Sonja

>>>

>>> I think this would either be Robert E. Howard or Dynamite/whoever's

>>> doing the comics now.

>>

>> Well, the character as we know her isn't technically a Robert E.

>> Howard creation.

>

> That may depend on which lawyer you ask. Currently, the Howard people

> and the people who own "Red Sonja" are paying each other a one-dollar

> settlement essentially to share the rights. Also, the producers of

> the '80s Red Sonja film felt it necessary to credit Howard as the

> character's creator.


She may be set in REH's Conan universe but, aside from the name (which
is spelled differently), she's essentially a Roy Thomas
creation...whatever the legal situation may be...if she were
considered a regular creation of REH, one would think the rights would
have gone to Dark Horse along with all the other REH properties.

> Regardless of any of that, Michael is correct. Marvel doesn't have

> the rights to any version of the character any more; her adventures

> are being chronicled by Dynamite.


True enough...which really sucks because I'm sure Dark Horse would
produce a better book and it would allow for the occasional Conan
crossover...then again, the Dark Horse Conan stuff has stayed a lot
closer to the original REH stories so they may not even be interested
in Red Sonja.
Re: Comics-into-Film Watch: Master list. [message #93986 is a reply to message #93957] Fri, 04 March 2011 12:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 18:05:47 -0600, Tim Turnip <timturnip@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 17:59:04 -0600, grinningdemon

> <grinningdemon@austin.rr.com> wrote:

>

>> On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 21:08:08 -0800, Michael <thisspace@for.rent>

>> wrote:

>>

>>> Duggy wrote:

>>>

>>>> Thor

>>>> Captain America

>>>> X-Men First Class

>>>> Iron Man 3

>>>> The Amazing Spider-man

>>>> Antman

>>>> Black Cat

>>>> Fury

>>>> Fantastic 4 1

>>>> Wolverine 2

>>>> Red Sonja

>>>

>>> I think this would either be Robert E. Howard or Dynamite/whoever's

>>> doing the comics now.

>>

>> Well, the character as we know her isn't technically a Robert E.

>> Howard creation.

>

> That may depend on which lawyer you ask. Currently, the Howard people

> and the people who own "Red Sonja" are paying each other a one-dollar

> settlement essentially to share the rights. Also, the producers of

> the '80s Red Sonja film felt it necessary to credit Howard as the

> character's creator.

>

> Regardless of any of that, Michael is correct. Marvel doesn't have

> the rights to any version of the character any more; her adventures

> are being chronicled by Dynamite.


Red Sonja/Sonya is 'owned' by Red Sonja LLC, and the Howard short story The
Shadow of the Vulture (where Red Sonya appeared) is 'owned' by Paradox
Entertainment, which owns the rights to the Howard library. Basically,
settling a peremptory lawsuit by RS LLC, RS LLC paid Paradox $1 for the
rights to the character Red Sonya and Paradox paid RS LLC $1 for the right
to publish Shadow of the Vulture in perpetuity.

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Re: Comics-into-Film Watch: Master list. [message #94004 is a reply to message #93986] Fri, 04 March 2011 12:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 3/4/2011 12:22 PM, William George Ferguson wrote:
> On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 18:05:47 -0600, Tim Turnip<timturnip@gmail.com> wrote:

>

>> On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 17:59:04 -0600, grinningdemon

>> <grinningdemon@austin.rr.com> wrote:

>>

>>> On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 21:08:08 -0800, Michael<thisspace@for.rent>

>>> wrote:

>>>

>>>> Duggy wrote:

>>>>

>>>> > Thor

>>>> > Captain America

>>>> > X-Men First Class

>>>> > Iron Man 3

>>>> > The Amazing Spider-man

>>>> > Antman

>>>> > Black Cat

>>>> > Fury

>>>> > Fantastic 4 1

>>>> > Wolverine 2

>>>> > Red Sonja

>>>>

>>>> I think this would either be Robert E. Howard or Dynamite/whoever's

>>>> doing the comics now.

>>>

>>> Well, the character as we know her isn't technically a Robert E.

>>> Howard creation.

>>

>> That may depend on which lawyer you ask. Currently, the Howard people

>> and the people who own "Red Sonja" are paying each other a one-dollar

>> settlement essentially to share the rights. Also, the producers of

>> the '80s Red Sonja film felt it necessary to credit Howard as the

>> character's creator.

>>

>> Regardless of any of that, Michael is correct. Marvel doesn't have

>> the rights to any version of the character any more; her adventures

>> are being chronicled by Dynamite.

>

> Red Sonja/Sonya is 'owned' by Red Sonja LLC, and the Howard short story The

> Shadow of the Vulture (where Red Sonya appeared) is 'owned' by Paradox

> Entertainment, which owns the rights to the Howard library. Basically,

> settling a peremptory lawsuit by RS LLC, RS LLC paid Paradox $1 for the

> rights to the character Red Sonya and Paradox paid RS LLC $1 for the right

> to publish Shadow of the Vulture in perpetuity.

>


Have they recouped their initial $2 investment yet? ;-)

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Re: Comics-into-Film Watch: Master list. [message #94026 is a reply to message #93979] Wed, 09 March 2011 03:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Mar 3, 3:59 am, Michael <thissp...@for.rent> wrote:
> And, FWIW, the Conan film is likely to be headed straight to DVD


I doubt that.

> some

> year a'la Solomon Kane, which is available and not too bad.


Solomon Kane was better than I thought.

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Re: Comics-into-Film Watch: Master list. [message #94027 is a reply to message #94026] Wed, 09 March 2011 08:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Duggy wrote:
> On Mar 3, 3:59 am, Michael <thissp...@for.rent> wrote:

>

>> And, FWIW, the Conan film is likely to be headed straight to DVD

>

>

> I doubt that.

>

>

>> some

>> year a'la Solomon Kane, which is available and not too bad.

>

>

> Solomon Kane was better than I thought.


I'm not sure what's going on with things like Solomon Kane and the new
Conan movie.

- Do the people who make the movie not have a lot of money period (like
a lot of the Marvel movies Perlman sold the rights for to the first
offer in the late 80s/early 90s)?

- Do the makes of the movies spend all their cash on getting the rights
and run out when it comes time to make prints of the movie or DVDs?

You'd think by now Kane would've been snapped up by SyFy as a "SyFy
Original" or at least been released in the US on DVD.

Michael
Re: Comics-into-Film Watch: Master list. [message #94029 is a reply to message #94027] Wed, 09 March 2011 22:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Mar 9, 11:17 pm, Michael <thissp...@for.rent> wrote:
> I'm not sure what's going on with things like Solomon Kane and the new

> Conan movie.


It shows. I'm not sure why you'd think that a film being filmed in 3D
will go straight to cinemas.

> - Do the people who make the movie not have a lot of money period (like

> a lot of the Marvel movies Perlman sold the rights for to the first

> offer in the late 80s/early 90s)?


Solomon Kane, probably didn't have much money behind it. In the
general community the name is meaningless.

> - Do the makes of the movies spend all their cash on getting the rights

> and run out when it comes time to make prints of the movie or DVDs?


That does happen. Solomon's cinema release was only small, could have
been a money issue. Not only for producing the prints, but
advertising.

> You'd think by now Kane would've been snapped up by SyFy as a "SyFy

> Original" or at least been released in the US on DVD.


It's been released on DVD in Australia.

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Re: Comics-into-Film Watch: Master list. [message #94031 is a reply to message #94029] Thu, 10 March 2011 12:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Duggy wrote:
> On Mar 9, 11:17 pm, Michael <thissp...@for.rent> wrote:

>

>> I'm not sure what's going on with things like Solomon Kane and the new

>> Conan movie.

>

>

> It shows. I'm not sure why you'd think that a film being filmed in 3D

> will go straight to cinemas.


Conan's in 3D?

>> - Do the people who make the movie not have a lot of money period (like

>> a lot of the Marvel movies Perlman sold the rights for to the first

>> offer in the late 80s/early 90s)?

>

>

> Solomon Kane, probably didn't have much money behind it. In the

> general community the name is meaningless.


Right. So after failing to get a release in US theatres and DVDs, go to
SyFy. At last they won't have lost so much and might get a DVD deal out
of it.

>> - Do the makes of the movies spend all their cash on getting the rights

>> and run out when it comes time to make prints of the movie or DVDs?

>

>

> That does happen. Solomon's cinema release was only small, could have

> been a money issue. Not only for producing the prints, but

> advertising.

>

>

>> You'd think by now Kane would've been snapped up by SyFy as a "SyFy

>> Original" or at least been released in the US on DVD.

>

>

> It's been released on DVD in Australia.


I know it's on DVD in some parts (hkflix has it for sale). I'm just
talking in the US.

Michael
Re: Comics-into-Film Watch: Master list. [message #94032 is a reply to message #94031] Thu, 10 March 2011 21:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Mar 11, 3:25 am, Michael <thissp...@for.rent> wrote:
> Duggy wrote:

>> On Mar 9, 11:17 pm, Michael <thissp...@for.rent> wrote:

>>> I'm not sure what's going on with things like Solomon Kane and the new

>>> Conan movie.

>> It shows.  I'm not sure why you'd think that a film being filmed in 3D

>> will go straight to cinemas.

> Conan's in 3D?


It's working title was Conan 3D.

>>> - Do the people who make the movie not have a lot of money period (like

>>> a lot of the Marvel movies Perlman sold the rights for to the first

>>> offer in the late 80s/early 90s)?

>> Solomon Kane, probably didn't have much money behind it.  In the

>> general community the name is meaningless.

> Right.  So after failing to get a release in US theatres and DVDs, go to

> SyFy.  At last they won't have lost so much and might get a DVD deal out

> of it.


Hardly a Sithee Original though.

It wouldn't be the first time that international releases have funded
US release.

Fortress went straight to DVD in Australia before it was released in
theatres in the US.

>> It's been released on DVD in Australia.

> I know it's on DVD in some parts (hkflix has it for sale).  I'm just

> talking in the US.


You talk about where you live, I'll talk about where I live.

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Re: Comics-into-Film Watch: Master list. [message #94033 is a reply to message #94032] Fri, 11 March 2011 09:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Duggy wrote:
> On Mar 11, 3:25 am, Michael <thissp...@for.rent> wrote:

>

>> Duggy wrote:

>>

>>> On Mar 9, 11:17 pm, Michael <thissp...@for.rent> wrote:

>>>

>>>> I'm not sure what's going on with things like Solomon Kane and the new

>>>> Conan movie.

>>>

>>> It shows. I'm not sure why you'd think that a film being filmed in 3D

>>> will go straight to cinemas.

>>

>> Conan's in 3D?

>

>

> It's working title was Conan 3D.


I did not know that. Have any movies that've gone 3D gone straight to
video/cable?

>>>> - Do the people who make the movie not have a lot of money period (like

>>>> a lot of the Marvel movies Perlman sold the rights for to the first

>>>> offer in the late 80s/early 90s)?

>>>

>>> Solomon Kane, probably didn't have much money behind it. In the

>>> general community the name is meaningless.

>>

>> Right. So after failing to get a release in US theatres and DVDs, go to

>> SyFy. At last they won't have lost so much and might get a DVD deal out

>> of it.

>

>

> Hardly a Sithee Original though.


Are any of those SyFy Original Movies really original?

> It wouldn't be the first time that international releases have funded

> US release.

>

> Fortress went straight to DVD in Australia before it was released in

> theatres in the US.

>

>

>>> It's been released on DVD in Australia.

>>

>> I know it's on DVD in some parts (hkflix has it for sale). I'm just

>> talking in the US.

>

>

> You talk about where you live, I'll talk about where I live.


Michael
Re: Comics-into-Film Watch: Master list. [message #94035 is a reply to message #94033] Fri, 11 March 2011 22:48 Go to previous message
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On Mar 12, 12:31 am, Michael <thissp...@for.rent> wrote:
> I did not know that.  Have any movies that've gone 3D gone straight to

> video/cable?


No, there's no point tripling the production cost for something that
isn't going to sell more DVDs.

>>> Right.  So after failing to get a release in US theatres and DVDs, go to

>>> SyFy.  At last they won't have lost so much and might get a DVD deal out

>>> of it.

>> Hardly a Sithee Original though.

> Are any of those SyFy Original Movies really original?


In as much as Sithee pays for their production, yeah.

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