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I am helping to design upgrades for the macintosh.  The lowest
level upgrade is for 1M byte.  That hopefully will cost only
about $1000 or less.  The 1 meg board will go inside of the mac,
and the mac will look no different from the outside.  However,
it will have 1 meg of memory plus the memory that the mac already
had (1.5 meg total if you had a 512K mac) that runs twice as
fast as the regular mac ram because it is DMA.  We have designed
boards going up to 8 meg.  We have implemented our design up
to the 4 meg level.  Here is what we are planning to do:  You
can buy the 1 meg upgrade, and it will be internal with a connector
that is invisible from the outside of the mac (like the interrupt
and reset switches) on the bottom right vents.  If you connect
the card-cage that we are designing to the connector, you can
add several additional things... more memory, a color board we
have designed, a speedup board, and some others...  The card
cage has a case like the mac's, and it fits snugly under the
mac, adding 5 inches to the mac's height, and no inches to it's
footprint.

The question:  Is this what you guys in netland really want?
Do you have any questions or suggestions?
Please let me know, because we are really doing this to make
the macintosh a REALLY serious machine.  Since our product will
be compatible with the hyper drive, and any other hard drives,
the mac can become sort of like a mini-computer.  Imagine 8 Meg
of ram and a 192 meg hard drive...

		Dave Kliman
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Those sound like very worthwhile upgrades.  What I would really like to see
more than anything else is virtual memory, though.  You could put a memory
management chip on the memory expansion boards, or replace the 68000 with a
line to a board containing a 68000 with memory management.  Probably the
former would be preferable.  This would enable the Mac to run 4.2bsd,
although the porting effort would be significant.  If it could be done under
$2000, you would have a guaranteed market here at C-MU, since all students
will soon be required to obtain a cheap 4.2bsd workstation (which one is
under discussion) to hook up to the VICE network in early 1986.
-=-
Tim Maroney, Carnegie-Mellon University Computation Center
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but as shadows; they pass & are done; but there is that which remains."
Liber AL, II:9.

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  8+ Meg main memory has me drooling.  Do you have a better interface for
the hard disk?  Already existing hard disks for the Mac have been reported
to be fairly slow.  If you could get a good/reasonable timesharing BSD 4.2
workstation out of the Mac, you have a customer.  I assume that your 5 inch
high box has plugs in the back so you can plug in a reasonable number of
devices (ala APPLE ][, IBM XT, etc)?