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	"reverse" kisado
	Re: "reverse" kisado
	Re: "reverse" kisado
	RE: "reverse" kisado
	Re: "reverse" kisado
	Meteor Blaster
	Re: Reverse Kisado Adapter

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From: m.cukan@agilixcorp.com
Date: Wed Jan 28 10:15:07 EST 2004
Subject: "reverse" kisado


Hey everyone,

Can anyone recommend a converter that would let me play North American 
Hu-cards on a PC Engine Duo RX? I bet there are a bunch out there; which 
would be best? I guess the Asian counterpart of the kisado is what I'm 
looking for.

Also, does anyone have any idea where I could get one?

Thanks in advance,
Mike



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From: bt@joyce.eng.yale.edu
Date: Wed Jan 28 10:20:36 EST 2004
Subject: Re: "reverse" kisado


@> Can anyone recommend a converter that would let me play North American 
@> Hu-cards on a PC Engine Duo RX? I bet there are a bunch out there; which 
@> would be best? I guess the Asian counterpart of the kisado is what I'm 
@> looking for.

Believe it or not, the Kisado will do this... however, there is another
issue that will prevent you from playing US games on a non-US system.

Just about all US HuCards have a country lock out code in them (in fact,
Klax is the only one that I know of that does not), so they will not
work on Japanese systems.

-bt



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From: bigjoeroy@intergate.com
Date: Wed Jan 28 10:47:08 EST 2004
Subject: Re: "reverse" kisado


Any converter that works one way will work the other, you just have to mod 
your system.
Look here:

http://joyce.eng.yale.edu/~bt/turbo/files/pce.hardware.mod

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 10:15:07 -0500, Michael Cukan  
wrote:

 >  Hey everyone,
 > 
 >  Can anyone recommend a converter that would let me play North American 
 >  Hu-cards on a PC Engine Duo RX? I bet there are a bunch out there; which 
 >  would be best? I guess the Asian counterpart of the kisado is what I'm 
 >  looking for.
 > 
 >  Also, does anyone have any idea where I could get one?
 > 
 >  Thanks in advance,
 >  Mike
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > 

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From: owner-turbo-list@joyce.eng.yale.edu
Date: Wed Jan 28 16:38:04 EST 2004
Subject: RE: "reverse" kisado


I was wondering about this awhile ago also...  I ended up just buying a PC
Engine Duo and the Japanese version of my favorite Hucards. :)

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From: owner-turbo-list@joyce.eng.yale.edu
[mailto:owner-turbo-list@joyce.eng.yale.edu]On Behalf Of Bt Garner
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 10:21 AM

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From: d-lite@neo-geo.com
Date: Wed Jan 28 17:49:38 EST 2004
Subject: Re: "reverse" kisado


The way it works is that of the 38 pins on a HuCard, the middle pins  
(specifically 15-17 and 19-23, where 18 is ground) are flipped between  
US and Jp cards.  Either way, the converters like the Kisado (and  
Purple Barney, diving board, Mirai, etc) merely "flip" these going from  
the HuCard to the hardware.  The problem Bt mentioned is that US  
HuCards have a lockout where it polls the processor to check the region  
of the hardware, causing US HuCards to not work on non-US hardware  
(although Japanese HuCards work fine on US hardware with the  
converters).  To defeat the region block, you must lift pin 29 on the  
Hu6280 processor and ground it to the board.  This allows you to use  
the US cards on any Japanese unit.  The only game I've ever seen  
affected negatively by this mod is Aldynes for the SuperGrafx.  This  
game hangs during the attract mode, but works fine if you start the  
game before advancing in the attract mode.

The pin 29 mod is simple enough, although that tiny little pin is quite  
sensitive.

If anyone is in need of this mod or the hardware region mod (meaning  
installing the region switch to surpass the use of the Kisado or other  
converter), please let me know and I can provide it.

On a side note, any one looking to sell?  Let me know that too!

Dean (dragsy on eBay)

On Jan 28, 2004, at 1:38 PM, MaDsKiLz wrote:

 >  I was wondering about this awhile ago also...  I ended up just buying  
 >  a PC
 >  Engine Duo and the Japanese version of my favorite Hucards. :)
 > 
 >  -----Original Message-----
 >  From: owner-turbo-list@joyce.eng.yale.edu
 >  [mailto:owner-turbo-list@joyce.eng.yale.edu]On Behalf Of Bt Garner


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From: elcapitano69@cox.net
Date: Wed Jan 28 18:32:15 EST 2004
Subject: Meteor Blaster


BT,
Is there a tentative release date for the DLX version yet?
And are you accepting preorders yet?
Joe from MAG Fest


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From: duo_r@sbcglobal.net
Date: Wed Jan 28 22:36:19 EST 2004
Subject: Re: Reverse Kisado Adapter


This has some more details on the mod and pictures.

http://www.gamesx.com/importmod/necjapmod.htm

If you want to do your own switch mod (instead of buying an adapter) see
my webpage:

http://www.geocities.com/duo_r@sbcglobal.net/

Just to let everyone know, I got a new 5.0 megapixel camera, so some
hi-res photos are coming soon....

Erik



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