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	emerald dragon- 2 CDS?!?!?!?!
	almost forgot
	most expensive turbo game ever...here you go
	Ys VI: The Ark of Napishtim comming out soon!
	Re: Ys VI: The Ark of Napishtim comming out soon!
	Re: emerald dragon- 2 CDS?!?!?!?!
	Re: emerald dragon- 2 CDS?!?!?!?!
	Re: most expensive turbo game ever...here you go
	more PC/TurboquestionsfromJapan
	Re: Ys VI: The Ark of Napishtim comming out soon!

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From: duo16@mindspring.com
Date: Thu Dec  4 09:26:56 EST 2003
Subject: emerald dragon- 2 CDS?!?!?!?!


hey list,
    i had a day off here in tokyo so i scrambled to akihabara and 
picked up Emerald Dragon which i have never played before.  what are 
your opinions on this game?    like many games for the system, it comes in a double cd case but i 
was stunned to find a second disc in mine.  what:s this about?  i won:t 
have a tv for another few days yet.  the discs are nearly identical 
with green from 8 to 2 o clock.  the game disc is white on the other 
half while the other disc is that shiny silver of the disc itself.  the 
second disc says (some kanji) then *MOOK shirizu* (series?).  there is 
also a little book of artwork and a brief paragraph at then end which 
mentions the pc88, 98, x68k, msx2, towns, and pc engine...has the game 
appeared on all of these systems?  underneath the paragraph is an 
autograph.  anyway,  this is a really cool package.  i don:t have it 
with me cause i left it back at my apartment but, ANYTHING you can tell 
me about this including your opinions or advice on playing the game, 
would be appreciated.  thanks, george 


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From: duo16@mindspring.com
Date: Thu Dec  4 09:29:00 EST 2003
Subject: almost forgot


oh yeah, under the MOOKSeries, it says  CDROM and BOOK=E3=80=801.  the seri=
al number is weird too.  the game disc says HE3005 but this strange other d=
isc says HMD 0001.  anyone?



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From: duo16@mindspring.com
Date: Thu Dec  4 09:36:14 EST 2003
Subject: most expensive turbo game ever...here you go


well, akihabara held a few surprises for me today.  i found two copies 
of Darius Alpha.  it:s not the first time i have seen the game for 
sale, however, the price is astronomical thesedays... 
148,000 yen!=  about $1,380 US dollars
    and this is a used game.
by comparison:

Sapphire-------------$250
Magical Chase-------$105
Dead of the Brain---$90
Macross 2036-------$40
Dracula X-----------$85
Duo RX--------------$125
PC Engine LT-------$900

    also, i need help identifying some games.  i found this game which 
was a super cd and had a some strange looking monkey on it.  the 
graphics didn:t look all that great but the game was going for about 
$100.  what is it? 
    as an aside, the only other time i:ve seen a game go for over 
$1,000 was for the NeoGeo.  there is a shooter called Blazing Star 
going for $1,200 and some NeoGeo comic quiz game going for 
$2,200...unbelievable.  anyone know about these games?  thanks,      george



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From: djoutkast@shaw.ca
Date: Thu Dec  4 17:26:19 EST 2003
Subject: Ys VI: The Ark of Napishtim comming out soon!


Ys VI: The Ark of Napishtim will make its way to a console some time before
September 2004, developer Falcom announced today. A console port of the PC
action-RPG, which saw release earlier this year on PCs in Japan:  MORE INFO:
http://www.1up.com/article2/0,4364,1401357,00.asp

Dj



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From: Wedgerog1@aol.com
Date: Thu Dec  4 17:51:48 EST 2003
Subject: Re: Ys VI: The Ark of Napishtim comming out soon!


That's wonderful, but unless it sees a Gamecube or X-Box release, we still 
won't be seeing it over here.  I'm sure it's still too "graphically inferior" 
for Sony to want it on their console.  Blech.

-Joe R.

In a message dated 12/4/03 4:27:09 PM Central Standard Time, 
djoutkast@shaw.ca writes:

<< Ys VI: The Ark of Napishtim will make its way to a console some time before
 September 2004, developer Falcom announced today. A console port of the PC
 action-RPG, which saw release earlier this year on PCs in Japan:  MORE INFO:
 http://www.1up.com/article2/0,4364,1401357,00.asp
 
 Dj
  >>


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From: daves@interlog.com
Date: Thu Dec  4 20:34:37 EST 2003
Subject: Re: emerald dragon- 2 CDS?!?!?!?!


At 09:26 AM 04/12/2003 -0500, George Plamantouras wrote:
 > second disc says (some kanji) then *MOOK shirizu* (series?).  there is
 > also a little book of artwork and a brief paragraph at then end which
 > mentions the pc88, 98, x68k, msx2, towns, and pc engine...has the game
 > appeared on all of these systems?

No, the game didn't actually get released as a 2-disc set.
Yes, the game was released on all those platforms.

Please see this website for differences:
http://emedra.the2d.com/

On the PC Engine platform, there were two releases:
Once, as the double-CD case with manual and art book (CDROM was the 
white-and-green one), and once as a "MOOK" - a magazine/book with a CDROM 
included, fromDengeki MOOK.  In Emerald Dragon's case, it was a "capture 
guide" book, and I believe the version of the game was a full version 
(rather than just a playable demo).

There were 3 MOOKs in the Dengeki series:
1: Emerald Dragon
2: Bakuretsu Hunter
3: Seiya Monogatari (An Earth Fantasy Stories)

There were also other MOOKs released by other publishers, such as:

Tengai Makyo Kabuki Den (this may be a playable demo)
3x3 Eyes (I just got this, so I don't know what the game CDROM is - but the 
book is artwork rather than a player's guide)
Record of Lodoss War 1
Record of Lodoss War 2
Kaze no Densetsu Xanadu
Develo Assembler (for programming)
Develo BASIC (for programming)



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From: daves@interlog.com
Date: Thu Dec  4 20:34:38 EST 2003
Subject: Re: emerald dragon- 2 CDS?!?!?!?!


At 09:26 AM 04/12/2003 -0500, George Plamantouras wrote:
 > second disc says (some kanji) then *MOOK shirizu* (series?).  there is
 > also a little book of artwork and a brief paragraph at then end which
 > mentions the pc88, 98, x68k, msx2, towns, and pc engine...has the game
 > appeared on all of these systems?

No, the game didn't actually get released as a 2-disc set.
Yes, the game was released on all those platforms.

Please see this website for differences:
http://emedra.the2d.com/

On the PC Engine platform, there were two releases:
Once, as the double-CD case with manual and art book (CDROM was the 
white-and-green one), and once as a "MOOK" - a magazine/book with a CDROM 
included, fromDengeki MOOK.  In Emerald Dragon's case, it was a "capture 
guide" book, and I believe the version of the game was a full version 
(rather than just a playable demo).

There were 3 MOOKs in the Dengeki series:
1: Emerald Dragon
2: Bakuretsu Hunter
3: Seiya Monogatari (An Earth Fantasy Stories)

There were also other MOOKs released by other publishers, such as:

Tengai Makyo Kabuki Den (this may be a playable demo)
3x3 Eyes (I just got this, so I don't know what the game CDROM is - but the 
book is artwork rather than a player's guide)
Record of Lodoss War 1
Record of Lodoss War 2
Kaze no Densetsu Xanadu
Develo Assembler (for programming)
Develo BASIC (for programming)



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From: daves@interlog.com
Date: Thu Dec  4 20:44:31 EST 2003
Subject: Re: most expensive turbo game ever...here you go



 > Darius Alpha.  it:s not the first time i have seen the game for
 > sale, however, the price is astronomical thesedays... 148,000 yen!=  about 
 > $1,380 US dollars

George, you should take a look at this then:

http://auction.rinkya.com/shopping/status.php3?action=itempage&url=http://page4.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/d41509809 
This is only the second time I have seen this item for sale, ever.
And this was the less expensive auction (the last one was over 150,000yen)

 >      also, i need help identifying some games.  i found this game which
 > was a super cd and had a some strange looking monkey on it.  the
 > graphics didn:t look all that great but the game was going for about
 > $100.  what is it?

Bazaru de Gozaru.
It's a puzzle game, similar to Lemmings, but it seems to be aimed more at 
children.
Actually, it's a good candidate for game translation (to english) - it's 
basically playable without modification, and most of the text to be 
translated is actually graphics.  Hiragana rules the day, and there isn't 
too much of it.



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From: duo16@mindspring.com
Date: Thu Dec  4 22:09:07 EST 2003
Subject: more PC/TurboquestionsfromJapan


hey everyone,thanks  for the many replies.   if i understand correctly, 
 the MOOK cd was not originally part of this package but the art book 
was?  is this right? 
now, onto some othergame identifying.  in this case, it:s label 
identifying.  i saw STRIP FIGHTER for sale yesterday.  ifi:m not 
mistaken,    this game was not made in japan but in taiwan (?)  korea 
(?).  now, next to it were about 5 or six more games that appear to 
have been made by the same company.  none of the games looked 
particularly great (which means nothing, i know) but they did look 
pretty low quality.  any info on these?  are they worth picking up?  
are they rare?  they were each going for about $20-$30. 
finally,  now that i have my emerald dragon  (and i:d still likesome 
feedback or opinions on this game), i:m considering picking up some 
more RPGs.  yesterday, i found Anearth Fantasies and i seem to remember 
hearing good things about it.  anyone haveanything to say about that 
game?  it:s going for about $40 right now  (i picked up Emerald Dragon 
for $8).. 
continuing on the RPG train for a moment, here:sa list of the RPGs i own:

Tengai Makyou  I-III
Dungeon Explorer II (US)
Cosmic Fantasy 2, 3, and 4 part 2  (is part 1 worth it?)
Beyond Shadowgate
Gulliver Boy
Order of the Griffon
Legendof Xanadu
DragonSlayer 1
Ys I-IV
Babel (if that counts as one)
and several more...  however,
   i have been thinking about getting Xak I-III (i think parts one and 
two come together), Anearth Fantasy Stories, Australius, LEgend of 
Xanadu II,  Brandish (this is an RPG, right?), et al.  any 
recommendations?  thus far, Tengai Makyou II & III and Beyond 
Shadowgate are my favorites thoughI haven:t really been turned off by 
any turbo/pce rpg i:ve played.  thanks in advance for any replies,             george



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From: djoutkast@shaw.ca
Date: Thu Dec  4 22:11:36 EST 2003
Subject: Re: Ys VI: The Ark of Napishtim comming out soon!


I found some pics......
http://www.kou-net.org/archive/gallery/napi

Dj


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