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Flight Simulator Update [message #79038] Sun, 02 June 2013 23:11
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Originally posted by: papa%usc-cse.csnet@csnet-relay.arpa
Message-ID: <12241@sri-arpa.UUCP>
Date: Mon, 17-Sep-84 20:16:39 EDT
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Posted: Mon Sep 17 20:16:39 1984
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From:  Marco Papa 


The update policy of Microsoft for its flight simulator program is just
terrible.  The list price for the new version is $49.95.  You can also get 
it by sending your old version with the manual + $30.00 (for a total of
about $32.00).

The mail order price for the new one varies from $30 to $35 (see the ads in
PCWorld, for example).  If you buy it this way you end up with two versions,
one of which you can legally sell or give as a present to a friend.

Microsoft, how can you call it an "update".

Marco Papa
USC - Computer Science Dept.
Re: Flight Simulator [message #157286 is a reply to message #79038] Fri, 09 August 1985 12:28 Go to previous message
ray is currently offline  ray
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Posted: Fri Aug  9 12:28:45 1985
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Keywords: theft,software protection,software piracy
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In article <519@brl-tgr.ARPA> in net.games, scooper@brl-tgr.ARPA
(Stephan Cooper ) writes:
 > 
 > I have recently acquired a copy of "Flight Simulator."  Unfortunately, it
 > did not come with instructions.
 > 
 > Could someone mail me some instructions on how to play it?
 > 
 > I would appreciate it, cause I don't have any idea how.
 > 


Well Steve, I think your best bet now is to (very) quickly rush down to your
local computer store and lay down your $'s to receive a shiny new copy of
the disk and its extremely well produced documentation.

In that way you can show us all that this is really only a joke, and that
you really haven't *stolen* that fine product from Microsoft (who, by the
way, will have read your posting by now), and that you're really *not*
trying to incite one of us to break the copywrite laws, and that anyway,
your employers have really *not* got anything to do with it, even though you
posted the request on their machine, and that, no, there is really no need
for their corporate lawyers to become involved, and that it is such a small
thing, so why should you be fired for it, and ....

(Cross posted to net.micro and net.micro.pc for the interest (amazement?) of
all those taking part in the "Software protection .." discussions).

Ray Dunn    ..philabs!micomvax!othervax!ray
Re: Flight Simulator [message #157402 is a reply to message #79038] Wed, 14 August 1985 22:31 Go to previous message
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I'm sure that he didn't steal the program but it was merely given to him by 
evil spirits. As for copyright violations, a few helpful hints are  not in
violation of copyright laws. For example, if someone should say that you use
the arrows on the keyboard to either make the plane turn or rise or dive. Or
if someone should mention that you use the function keys to control the    
throttle (F2)  (F4) (F6) (F8) and (F10) then this is in no way a violation of
copyright laws because the information was not copied from the book verbatum
nor was the wording similar to the wording used in the instruction manual....

                      Dowdy Jackson 
                      UCLA Neurology/Neuropharm
Re: Flight Simulator [message #157415 is a reply to message #79038] Fri, 16 August 1985 23:02 Go to previous message
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Posted: Fri Aug 16 23:02:33 1985
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Speaking of Flight Simulators, does anyone know if there are any new
ones planned...or any others as good as MS FS?  I was told that MS
was working on a jet version (Boeing 747) and a helicopter version...

Michael E. Meyer
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Re: Flight Simulator [message #224478 is a reply to message #79038] Sun, 25 August 1985 06:23 Go to previous message
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In article <> mikem@tekcae.UUCP (Michael E. Meyer) writes:
 > Speaking of Flight Simulators, does anyone know if there are any new
 > ones planned...or any others as good as MS FS?  I was told that MS
 > was working on a jet version (Boeing 747) and a helicopter version...

See the August 26 issue of InfoWorld, p. 20.  "A Dogfight in the Making,"
subtitled, "Lone programmer wants to battle giant Microsoft etc. etc."...

"Donald A. Hill, Jr.... has developed a flight simulation program for the 
Macintosh that may challenge the famous Bruce Artwick version for the IBM PC...
Hill's flight simulator, which he plans to market himself at $49.95, is based
on flying a WWI plane, the Fokker Triplane.  'I first went for responsiveness
to make it feel good, then added realism from there...'"

Well, even if it is only for the Mac so far, you might want to check it out.
He's already marketed it at Macworld in Feb. in S.F. -- it's self-published
under his own label, Bullseye Software, a divison of Gray Matter Ltd.  They
don't give an address for him, but do refer to him as "a programmer from
Incline Village, Nevada."  Not clear whether that's where he is.

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