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In this issue:
	Re: Bad Trader
	Re: Bad Trader
	Re: Bad Trader
	Re: Bad Trader (What To Do)
	Re: Bad Trader (What To Do)
	Bad Trader
	Re: RE: Spine card kung fu...
	RE: Bad Trader
	Re: Bad Trader (What To Do)
	The Ultimate Battle: ACD vs. SGX
	Re: Bad Trader (What To Do)
	RE: Bad Trader
	Re: Bad Trader
	Re: The Ultimate Battle: ACD vs. SGX
	Re: I'm Back
	Good Trader Alert!!
	Shops in Florida

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From: darkman@darkcityproductions.com
Date: Tue Apr  9 02:18:16 EDT 2002
Subject: Re: Bad Trader


At 01:24 AM 4/9/2002 -0400, you wrote:
 > Does anyone know what can be done about this guy.
 > He's been ripping people off for the past 4 or 5
 > years.

It's really too bad something like this has to happen.  But, we have his 
address right?  It's NOT a PO box.... does anyone just live in that area, 
maybe you could go over there and kick his ass. :)  Seriously, if something 
could be done I want to know about it, for future refrence.

-Tim



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From: jjacquet@rocketmail.com
Date: Tue Apr  9 02:34:08 EDT 2002
Subject: Re: Bad Trader


Im all for something.. im still trying to get stuff out of him.. but as im
overseas its looking grim.  threats are useless when you cant go and see him
personally
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremiah Jacquet" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 5:24 PM


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From: l-c-r-ant@woh.rr.com
Date: Tue Apr  9 05:03:30 EDT 2002
Subject: Re: Bad Trader


I'm in Ohio near the border, but i'm not exactly
in any position to kick anyone's ass.... :D


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From: DisKounter@aol.com
Date: Tue Apr  9 06:08:53 EDT 2002
Subject: Re: Bad Trader (What To Do)


OK, THIS IS WHAT EVERYONE WHO GOT RIPPED OFF MUST DO

 > He's been ripping people off for the past 4 or 5 years.
That I can verify, I remember MANY AND MANY dialogues.

FIRST
ANYONE who got scammed by Dan Richards, PRINT ALL EMAILS AND FILE with 
the post office on MAIL FRAUD. 
SECOND
File with your LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENT, and if you are up to it, MAIL A 
COPY OF THE COMPLAINT TO HIS LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
THIRD
DON'T LET UP.  Keep up with the post office.  Let others know.  If you 
see him post anywhere, post warnings.  Hell, someone should just make a 
webpage, and collect all data. 
One of my friends was scammed, and these were the procedures the police 
informed him to take.  One report to the post office dosen't do 
anything.  Each additional report builds a case of mail fraud, and 
postal inspectors will do something.  The police report will involve 
the police, and if the post office catches him on mail fraud, you will 
have a way to get what you paid for, or your money back. 
Just my $.02
I hate seeing anyone get scammed...I just had some *&%$*# bounce a $350 
check on a computer.  I drove to her house, and it looked like she 
skipped town.  I filed with the police department, and she now has a 
warrant for her arrest. 
Please, do not give up.  We forgot before, and he got away with it again.

Brian Satinover - DisKounters - www.diskounters.com

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From: DisKounter@aol.com
Date: Tue Apr  9 06:55:44 EDT 2002
Subject: Re: Bad Trader (What To Do)


In my case, its a little bit different because i'm overseas.   I have all of
my emails from my dealings with jason/dan.  I also have a letter which he
sent to me by snail mail, listing all the items he had for sale and prices,
as well as 2 photos of the items i was going to buy and also 1 of the items
eagan who was also ripped off was going to buy.

I've posted reports with the USPS website as well fraud.org and the FBI
internet fraud division.  None of these departments have replied to me at
all.  With the help of eagan we have a list of names that dan goes by and
also a list of people who have previously been ripped off.  I'm not sure
what i can do being outside of the US but i'd definitely like to see the
$100 i sent to him refunded.  I'm happy to help or supply any information
that could be useful in putting this asshole away.

Cheers
Greg
----- Original Message -----
From: 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 10:08 PM


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From: EHopp@columbusga.org
Date: Tue Apr  9 09:13:43 EDT 2002
Subject: Bad Trader


I must apologize as it seems I was scammed too.  Jason aka Steve aka Dan
Richards did send my items and in return he begged me for a good reference
on the list and the PC-FX message board.  In getting my reference, he
proceeded to commit mail fraud against other list users and ruin my
reputation in the process.  In my defense, I had never encountered him
before and he seemed very friendly and provided good service on the Kisado
and the PC-FX I bought.  Little did I know he was going to "sell" other
items and not send them.

When I dealt with him, he went by the name Steve on the phone and claimed
Jason was his brother.  In my last email conversation with him, he said he
had left for Florida and was no longer in Indiana.  I have had no further
contact with this individual (sorry I couldn't help more Greg) and this has
been my only encounter with him.

As I have stated before I only buy Turbo items, I don't sell, so please
don't lump me in with this scam artist.  Also he supposed to send me Y's
III, but I doubt I will ever see it as it has been a month since it was to
have been sent.

Eric



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From: DLVARAJA@itrsolutions.com
Date: Tue Apr  9 11:37:04 EDT 2002
Subject: Re: RE: Spine card kung fu...



Listers,
     For myself, being as anal about my games as I am, I have celophane 
covers for my PCE/PSX games and I put the spine card on the spine as the 
covers keeps it in place. It just limits the ease of taking the game 
out of the cover to play, but I haven't had much time to play anyway. So I have stored 
them away, never to be sold again, but the look great. I just need some 
that fit the double CD cases. Can't seem to find those. But that is whay I do.
Dan V


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From: gas57@stx.rr.com
Date: Tue Apr  9 17:31:35 EDT 2002
Subject: RE: Bad Trader


Call the small claims court for your county of residence.  Maybe you can
file suit in small claims court.  Just imagine if he gets a legally binding
summons from hundreds of miles away!  You do not need a lawyer to take a
case to small claims court!
Good Luck,
Jeff

 @(^_~)@

 >  -----Original Message-----
 >  From: owner-turbo-list@joyce.eng.yale.edu
 >  [mailto:owner-turbo-list@joyce.eng.yale.edu]On Behalf Of Greg Cook

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From: stk8534@loki.stockton.edu
Date: Tue Apr  9 17:52:47 EDT 2002
Subject: Re: Bad Trader (What To Do)


   Oh man, Dan Richards.  If it wasn't for this List, I would have gotten
ripped by him a while back.  He posted on (I believe) pcenginefx.com that
he was selling a PC-FX with Blue Breaker for $150.  Thank God someone was
awake enough to tell me to avoid the Terre Haute address.

I think you guys are on the right track about this.  I got scammed twice a
few years ago on the Bay.  One incident, the bay hadnled but the second
one was handled independently in a similar fashion...
   One person here needs to collect information (emails, transaction
details, snail mail, all addresses) and share it with the others who have
been ripped.  Each of you must in turn file a complaint with your local
PD's and with the Terre Haute PD.  Then, take it to small claims court
where I believe he would receive a subpeona from each of your local
courts.  Your best bet would be to just call your local court clerk adn
get the low down.
   



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From: stk8534@loki.stockton.edu
Date: Tue Apr  9 17:54:38 EDT 2002
Subject: The Ultimate Battle: ACD vs. SGX


    Alright, someone settle this for me please.  What is the Tale of Tape
between these two juggernaughts?  I've never played Aldynes for the SGx,
but it looks like it could go toe to toe with any ACD/SCD game.


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From: stk8534@loki.stockton.edu
Date: Tue Apr  9 18:07:01 EDT 2002
Subject: Re: Bad Trader (What To Do)


Ahhh well he's back at pcenginefx.com using the name of  miraculum2002

i see a few people have been replying to his add, i hope no one else has to
deal with him..

----- Original Message -----
From: "George Plamantouras" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 9:52 AM


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From: Michael.Sharpe@cna.com
Date: Tue Apr  9 18:11:36 EDT 2002
Subject: RE: Bad Trader


Since I live in Illinois and I frequently drive to Michigan, I can always
stop and pick up some friends and we can make a little visit to our good
friend Dan (Thanks for his address to who ever posted it.  The power of the
internet has allowed me to get exact directions to his place) and perhaps
convince him to either ship out the goods or break his legs, which ever the
list votes as appropriate.

Mike

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subsidiaries and so forth, of any legal ramifications of breaking someone's
legs without express written permission from whom those legs are to be
broken.  Michael Sharpe does not condone the use of violence in resolving
any domestic disputes.  But if the individual in mention does get his/her
legs broken, it was probably well deserved, but not endorsed. *

 >  -----Original Message-----
 >  From:	Gas57 [SMTP:gas57@stx.rr.com]
 >  Sent:	Tuesday, April 09, 2002 4:32 PM


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From: Michael.Sharpe@cna.com
Date: Tue Apr  9 18:23:47 EDT 2002
Subject: Re: Bad Trader


Ive posted the address so that people know not to go sending money to anyone
in that general area.

As much as you, id like to see him suffer a bit of pain, the thing is its
not just Dan, but his wife/girlfriend whatever she is, because shes the one
cashing the money orders for him...

And i dont believe right now pain is a suitable action, Eagan has posted he
has a few options and id like to see where those options take us, like eagan
said the last thing we need is jason /Dan trying to sue us for beating him
up.

Still if you do pay him a visit, mention my name "Greg Cook" from New
Zealand. You can tell him i want my games..

Greg

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sharpe,Michael" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 10:11 AM


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From: Grant428@aol.com
Date: Tue Apr  9 19:20:55 EDT 2002
Subject: Re: The Ultimate Battle: ACD vs. SGX



Personally, I like playing 1941 more than Aldynes.  Either way, though, 
I think that titles like Gate of Thunder and especially Winds of 
Thunder were more technically accomplished pieces of software, even 
running on the inferior hardware.  I do like Aldynes and 1941 better 
than Sapphire, though, but that's personal prefence...not technical 
issues. 


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From: stk8534@loki.stockton.edu
Date: Tue Apr  9 19:39:03 EDT 2002
Subject: Re: I'm Back


I know this is old, but I ahd to throw my $.02 in...

       It's like this, Joan said:
 >  
 >  So I kept the jewel case, manual, and CD or HuCard.  That was all I needed
 >  to play the game; the box was extraneous and usually had obtuse artwork on
 >  it anyway that didn't enhance my game-playing experience.  

       The box is very exciting to me.  Even as a little kid when I would 
drool for hours at Sears staring Colcovision games (well, the boxes
actually) and Atari 2600 games, I knew that to get one of those into my
collection, it was going to take some pennies (and some serious begging). 
When I finally got the game, I wanted to keep the box cause it reminded
me of how badly I wanted the game in the first place.  The package is
part of the experience.  That's what used to be cool about Working
Designs' games and lots of Japanese efforts.  Of course, I only have two
Colecovision boxes left cause my Mom agreed with Joan about gameboxes.  I 
came home from school one day and found that all of my boxes were tossed
and I did the only thing an eight year old could do... I beat up my
sister. ^_^

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From: DLVARAJA@itrsolutions.com
Date: Tue Apr  9 20:06:09 EDT 2002
Subject: Good Trader Alert!!


Listers,
   With all this trouble going around, I just wanted to warn everyone who is 
unfamiliar with the list or is new about one of the members. The member in 
questioin is Jeremiah Jacquet. I have dealt with him on several ocassions, 
either through Ebay or one on one trading here, and he has honored his side 
of the deals each time. I have never had any problems with him whatsoever 
and would highly recommend anyone who has considered trading with or 
buying from Jeremiah. I just wanted to warn you guys. Watch out for Greg 
Cook, too. He is also a good trader that I want to warn you guys about!! Its 
what this whole 'community' is all about. 
Dan V



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From: thgill@adelphia.net
Date: Wed Apr 10 01:17:57 EDT 2002
Subject: Shops in Florida


Hey Gang,
  I am heading down to beautiful Florida for vacation starting on the
13th and I was curious if there are any Turbo/PC-Engine game carrying
shops in the Daytona/New Smyrna Beach area? Maybe somewhere that also
carries Saturn stuff too.

I am also most likely gonna drive to Miami for at least one day also, so
any suggestions for that area would be great also.

Thanks!

-todd

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the unhappy people." - despair.com



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