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	Order of the griffon

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From: l-c-r-ant@woh.rr.com
Date: Sat Mar  2 13:50:00 EST 2002
Subject: Re: Order of the griffon


I remeber that game. I still have it today, but I never really could get
into it, I'm just not a D&D fanatic, although I do like RPG's with the turn
based-system that enix created in DW1. (the system almost all non online
RPG's use today.) I don't know if you would classify that as a TRUE RPG
since it is so different from D&D the first RPG. It was the first right? The
first one in which you used your imagination and the original D&D rules,
then the board game, then the videogames, then AD&D games using the new
rules, and then beyond . (Please correct me if I'm wrong I only have a very
limited knowledge in D&D as I'm only 15 and this game was before my time).
Also I did kinda like the early Might and Magic's (Might and Magic III for
the turbo cd is a good example.) I suppose they sorta resemble some of the
D&D games.

P. S. Out of curiosity do they still make console D&D games or have any in
future development? Also I wasn't the one who originally asked the question
I just thought I'd jump in on the topic

Nick

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From: daves@interlog.com
Date: Sun Mar  3 00:22:19 EST 2002
Subject: re: japanese trans



 > has anyone successfully translated any japanese cd game? is this difficult?

Yes, one game has been translated - Super Daisenryaku.
There are a few other games in progress, with one notable game being Xak 3.

As for difficulty, it really depends on the game itself, and how it was 
written, etc.

There is usually more text to translate in CD games, and it takes a longer 
time to locate the text in a larger data file.  But then again, it should 
be easier to translate a shooter than a RPG, and so on.

- Dave



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From: l-c-r-ant@woh.rr.com
Date: Sun Mar  3 01:38:59 EST 2002
Subject: Order of the griffon


to my knowledge the closest thing that comes to
the older style games like Unlimited adventures it
the newer Forgotten Realms based series Boulder's
Gate... This is'n however made but TSR or SSI to
my knowledge as wizards of the coast bought up the
peices of what was left of AD&D as since the late
80's parents movment (the BAN SATAN movement as
i've heard it called) AD&D fell out of favor with
the younger generation because of their parents
viewing it as evil.  (Dates back to a couple of
isolated incedents in which AD&D was supposed to
be the insperation for some kids hurting and in
one case killing another kid.)  i you go to a
place like Funcoland or similar game store, you
could probably find a copy of Eye of the Beholder
for the SNES, as a almost perfect replica was made
for the system.... other than that I couldn't
really tell you much as I quit following the
computer AD&D side of things durring the mid 90's,
bout the time Unlimited Adventures was realeased
on the PC (last purchase of AD&D comp games I
made ) :(
The only other thing that comes close is
Everquest, which is a TRUE-REAL-TIME turnbased
AD&D like game (kinda like a doom style AD&D
game).  only prob is it's net play only, and costs
money to be apart of, 19.95 a month i think, or
something like thatit might have been only 9 or
7... I don't know as i personally don't play but
my borther does.

If you have anymore questions, drop me a line
:)>"A finatic is a person who can't change his
mind,
 > and won't change the subject!"
 >                           --Sir Winceton
Churchil--

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created the school board."
                              -Mark Twain-

It is by the fortune of God that, in this country,
we have three benefits: freedom of speech, freedom
of thought, and the wisdom never to use either.
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Better to say nothing and seem foolish, than to
open you're mouth and prove them right!
                             -Mark Twain-

"I was once intreduced by a lawyer, who always
kept his hands in his pockets.  He intreduced me
as, "Mark Twain. A humorist... Who is very funny".
Never in my life have I been graced with a
complement as generous as this... Or one so well
deserved.  But the audiance beheld a much more
amazing and rare specitcal than, Mark Twain, a
humorist, who was very funny.  They had a lawyer
who kept his hands in his own pockets!"
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one's self a compliment on occasion.  Why I can do
it right now, I can say that there are two men on
this earth who are most remarkable.  Kippling is
one, and I am the other.  Between us, we cover all
knowledge.  Kippling knows all that can be known
and I know the rest!"
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Twain:Live--

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