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In this issue:
	Re: Diskounters?
	Re: Diskounters?
	Looking for some gear
	FW: "new" games
	FW: "new" games
	Pioneer Laseradisc CLD-A100
	Re: Pioneer Laseradisc CLD-A100
	Games for trade...
	FS: Sapphire (new)
	PCFX Deep Blue Fleet FS/T
	Re: FS:Bonk 3 CD and Hucard also Circus Lido
	Wanted: Arcade Card Pro
	Re: FS: Sapphire (new)
	Re: FS: Sapphire (new)
	Import Q
	Re: Import Q
	Re: FS:Bonk 3 CD and Hucard also Circus Lido
	RE: Returned Message (was: Shrinkwrapped games).

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From: pcefx@pcenginefx.com
Date: Wed Feb  6 02:48:02 EST 2002
Subject: Re: Diskounters?


Well, as for as emails, Brian is pretty good at responding within a day so
no issue there...

As for the HuCard slips, my last email from Brian was that he was getting
them out two weeks ago....but I've still not got mine yet....so either they
didn't get out yet, or they were shipped using a really slow shipping
method......?

Aaron Nanto
Webmaster Pcenginefx.com



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From: pcefx@pcenginefx.com
Date: Wed Feb  6 02:58:03 EST 2002
Subject: Re: Diskounters?


Thanks guys,

im happy to say after my posting Brian contacted me right away, it seems the
problem was at my end not getting the messages he sent.  he's been very
professional and replied to all my recent emails within hours..

cheers

greg
----- Original Message -----
From: "Aaron Nanto" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 8:48 PM


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From: gjc53@student.canterbury.ac.nz
Date: Wed Feb  6 03:01:15 EST 2002
Subject: Looking for some gear


Hey Guys,

does anyone have any duplicate tubo play or turbo force mags, id love to see
some.

also im after a MIB soldier blade, and nuetopia 2, can anyone help

thanks

P.s i still have a turbo express to trade im looking for complete games and
or a mint turbo grafx machine and or cd unit..

Greg



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From: kris@squareonepublishing.co.uk
Date: Wed Feb  6 05:06:04 EST 2002
Subject: FW: "new" games


I've just bought 3 sealed games the last couple of weeks (Fatal Fury 2,
Panic Bomber and Formation Soccer 95: Serie A). It's not that uncommon to
find them. Some games are easier to find new than others though. Just bought
2 Brand new Jap systems too, including a Shuttle and a Duo. Just keep
looking, you'll find them. And your right about them shrink-wrapping second
hand games Joe. They shrink consoles + Accessories too.

on 6/2/02 2:10 am, Andrew Shal at andrewShal@mail.nodzine.com wrote:

so I'm 
 >  guessing there are sealed copies of just about anything out there
 >  somewhere. 
 >  Andy
 >  
 >  ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
 >  From: CiscoKed@aol.com
 >  Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2002 17:46:14 -0500


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From: kris@squareonepublishing.co.uk
Date: Wed Feb  6 05:09:08 EST 2002
Subject: FW: "new" games


Sofmap do too. I bought a few things off of a guy here that he got from
there and they were all shrinked.

on 6/2/02 6:55 am, Paul England at texas@hpo.net wrote:

Medialand definitely does this.

***********************************************
Kris Barratt
Designer
Square One Group Ltd.


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From: gmezero@gz.bomb.com
Date: Wed Feb  6 05:54:53 EST 2002
Subject: Pioneer Laseradisc CLD-A100


FWI, there are currently five different auctions on E-Bay right now offereing
CLD-A100s. Unfortunately most of them appear to only come with the MegaDrive
module... and a couple of the auctions look like they may be short remotes
but for those of you looking to get the player at all, or looking for a back-up
unit, you might want to check them out. Every now and then the PCEngine 
modules show up as well. OH, none of these are my auctions... I'm just giving
a heads up to the list...

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1328163544
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1330467671
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1330719741
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1330822489
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1330623011

Bryan
gmezero@gz.bomb.com



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From: gmezero@gz.bomb.com
Date: Wed Feb  6 10:09:48 EST 2002
Subject: Re: Pioneer Laseradisc CLD-A100


I was able to get my Laseractive for $110 shipped with the Turbo module.
Everything came boxed in MINT condition with everything! SWEET!  That was my
best deal EVER.  Just though I'd let you guys know :)  If you look enough
you will find one.

Joel
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bryan C." 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 4:54 AM


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From: SJSBH@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
Date: Wed Feb  6 10:18:54 EST 2002
Subject: Games for trade...


The following games are for trade only:

**** Turbo Duo/PCEngine ****

 Splash Lake      - TGXCD1025 -  CD - new, shrinkwrapped
 Ys Book I & II   - TGXCD1002 -  CD - complete, includes map
 Rom Rom Stadium  - NSCD9001  -  CD - complete, PCE
 Super Daisenryaku  MCCD0001  -  CD - complete, PCE
 Davis Cup Tennis - MWCD2002  - SCD - complete, PCE

 Go to http://ugtz.com/users/steverpg.html for a complete
 listing of all my available games.

 WANTED LIST:

 Neo Geo Pocket Color - Evolution: Eternal Dungeons (UK, English)
 Playstation 2 - system
 Playstation 2 - Forever Kingdom
 Game Boy  - Gargoyle's Quest 2
 Game Gear - Phantasy Star Gaiden (import)

Steve



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From: samohung@munich.netsurf.de
Date: Wed Feb  6 14:40:51 EST 2002
Subject: FS: Sapphire (new)


Hi fellow list members,

a friend of mine (100% reliable) is parting his new & sealed
copy of Sapphire. Not cheap, but you might consider it. He's
asking 750 Euro + shipping. It's 100% NOT re-shrinked, but
really new, unused & factory sealed. The price is not negotiable.

I will get a sealed Sapphire as well (out of a large bundle
trade I've done some time ago) and consider selling or
trading it as well. I've no particular price in mind, so feel
free to mail me with any $$ offer or trade offer (import soft-
and hardware only + japanese DVDs).

Email me under samohung@munich.netsurf.de for details...
You can check my 1400+ positive feedbacks on ebay, if you
need any "security" (my user id is samohung).

Thanks for listening & Bye
Tobias



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From: jose_agripino@webaholic.com.br
Date: Wed Feb  6 18:33:48 EST 2002
Subject: PCFX Deep Blue Fleet FS/T



Hello listers,

Since I don't have a PCFX, I've decided to sell this game... It's MIB and
complete, including the protecting foam inside the cart, warranty card,
instructions manual and even the PCFX sealable stick on the box side.

If you want to trade for it, I'm interested in PCE/Saturn/Neo Geo (CD, cart
or MVS) games.

I'm not sure what would be the asking price for this item, so best offer
takes it. Pictures are available if you ask nicely :-)

Please remember that I live in Brazil and that should add about $7 to the
shipping via priority air mail. I have traded/bought stuff before on this
list, but that was a long time ago...

I also have two PCFX pads and as far as I remember they are MIB as well, if
anyone is interested I'll try to find them in the mess I call home.

Regards,

Jose Agripino



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From: cs-firehawk@attbi.com
Date: Wed Feb  6 19:14:59 EST 2002
Subject: Re: FS:Bonk 3 CD and Hucard also Circus Lido


Circus Lido has been sold.  I have a offer of $100 on Bonk 3 CD and I'm
asking $65+ for Bonk 3 Hucard.  Please make me a offer by Thursday night if
you are interested.  Thanks, Joel
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joel D." 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 12:51 PM


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From: AnimeAlex@aol.com
Date: Wed Feb  6 19:20:28 EST 2002
Subject: Wanted: Arcade Card Pro


I have a used Arcade Card Duo that I want to do a straight up trade for 
an Arcade Card Pro.  Anyone interested? Alex



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From: UGZHunter@aol.com
Date: Wed Feb  6 21:52:30 EST 2002
Subject: Re: FS: Sapphire (new)


     ::whistles:: 750 Euro's is about $650 US dollars.  While I don't 
have any interest in the game personally, is anyone actually that 
interested in this game?  I mean, it had a few 3D graphics and all, but 
it had I recall no parallax and was too easy and short for my tastes.  
If someone does pay that much, I'd love to know you sold it. 
     I'd pay you, but John Romero's ferrari was on eBay just a while 
ago and might be reposted, so I'll pass.  ;) 
Later.


]--- Turbo List Information ---------------------------------------------
Has anyone else noticed that Bonk looks suspicously similar to Dopey
from the Walt Disney movie Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs?  Perhaps
this is one of those "Separated at birth" things.
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From: texas@hpo.net
Date: Wed Feb  6 22:25:30 EST 2002
Subject: Re: FS: Sapphire (new)


I sold one for US $650 not too long ago -- yes, sealed, mint, no sun 
bleach or anything.  Highest I've seen one is JP 75,000 yen, which with 
the weak yen is now about $650, but was about $700 at the time. 
Paul



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From: akira@map.com
Date: Wed Feb  6 23:29:49 EST 2002
Subject: Import Q


  Been pretty dormant here but with all this talk about imports again 
it got me wondering when I first started collecting imports.  So...  
What was your first import game you ever bought (I guess for any 
system)? 
  Mine, incidentally, was a Pc Engine game.  Back in 1993 when Dracula 
X came out, I knew it wasn't coming here at all, but read many reviews  
on how great a game it was, and just had to get it.  I knew that no 
convertors were needed to play a CD game (back then I don't think many 
people even thought of playing Japanese games so that probably why it 
wasn't much of an issue as it is today).  So I started looking into it, 
the Internet wasn't what it was today and had to search in my Video 
Game Magazines.  Looking in the back where all the stores shown prices 
for new import games such as BRE Software, Game Dude (what a bastard), 
some others.  But found it cheapest, at the time, at Japan Video Games, 
I'm sure they're not around anymore as I have not heard about them at 
all for sometime.  So I had my dad order me the game, hell I was still 
in High School at that time so no Credit Card, got it for $69.99.  I 
tell you after I popped that sucker in I was hooked, was a great game 
and still is.  Still have it too and told my mom when I die that bad 
boy is coming with me, amongst a few others, as it was my first import.   Since, on countless systems, I have hundreds of imports but it all 
started with what many call the flagship Turbo/PCE game.   And as people were talking here about finding shrinked games, many 
mentioned I still have new, basically bought not to play but just as 
collectors status.  They have to be out there, it just finding them and 
seeing if someone is willing to part them, as for me you'll have to pry 
them from my kung-fu grip ;) 
Adam...



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From: Grant428@aol.com
Date: Thu Feb  7 00:14:03 EST 2002
Subject: Re: Import Q


 >  And as people were talking here about finding shrinked games, many 
 >   mentioned I still have new, basically bought not to play but just as 
 >   collectors status.  They have to be out there, it just finding them and 
 >   seeing if someone is willing to part them, as for me you'll have to pry 
 >   them from my kung-fu grip ;)

I have a largish collection (sitting at 1,054 today)...and I guess in a sense 
I could be a "collector" as I only buy stuff complete (no loose stuff) and as 
mint a condition as possible; however, I've never understood the collector 
who never upwraps his or her games to...um...actually play them (I know 
some).  It baffles me.  Given the recent drops in some PC Engine prices due 
to a seeming lack of concern (gamers are fickle), the value of some 
collections has spiraled down...even the sealed ones.  So what are you left 
with?  In some cases, once expensive games which are now about a fifth of 
what you paid.  In my opinion, the depreciation is no big deal if you 
actually play the games and get enjoyment from them.  At that point, though, 
what's the draw in keeping the shrink on?  Guess I'll never get it.  I game 
to because I like the hobby and I truly enjoy playing games, and I don't see 
the point in having a bunch of shrinkwrapped aging games on a shelf not 
keeping their prices with time.  They aren't like paintings you hang on the 
wall.  This is certainly a bad hobby for investors, unless you hawk your 
stuff when the price gets high.  But, then again, that's somewhat retarded 
because why would you want to sell something you enjoy?  I used to collect 
comics when I was younger until all of the so-called investors came in and 
ruined the hobby.  That's when I got out.  This happened with gaming 
also...and all of the "I demand shrinkwrap" weirdos came out of the woodwork 
hoping to cash in on the hobby.  I didn't get out entirely...though I sort of 
did for a few months...but it's the same perversion which I didn't like in 
the comic collecting field.  Once you take the whole purpose out of it, 
there's really no reason to do it.  I actually had some sick child ask me how 
Akumajo Dracula X played one time because they still had their sealed copy 
and refused to open it.  Mine was opened in November 1993, and I didn't have 
to ask people anything about it, as I've been "experiencing" it for over 8 
years now.  I've never once regretted breaking the shrink.  



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From: DisKounter@aol.com
Date: Thu Feb  7 00:27:23 EST 2002
Subject: Re: FS:Bonk 3 CD and Hucard also Circus Lido


 >> I have a offer of $100 on Bonk 3 CD 
 >> and I'm asking $65+ for Bonk 3 Hucard.

Damn, and some of you called me derrogatory words when I was selling 
Bonk III Hu new for $20... 
Makes one wonder.

Brian Satinover


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From: mm0613@polyu.edu.hk
Date: Thu Feb  7 00:56:44 EST 2002
Subject: RE: Returned Message (was: Shrinkwrapped games).


Not only in Japan do you find brand new games but in HK too (chances are they 
were imported recently from Japan rather than being left over stocks in 
warehouses). I saw Downtown Monogatari brand new in two different shops here 
(but it costs like HK$3000+) and also a sealed Double Dragon II.

Friend and I thinks that it's resealed although it does have a spine card AND 
the tab. He mentioned that Double Dragon II was one of the few with the tear 
off line running from top to bottom and not left to right. Does anyone here 
have a brand new one to compare??

William/



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