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sources [message #71092] Thu, 23 May 2013 23:44 Go to next message
tugs is currently offline  tugs
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Message-ID: <2626@utcsrgv.UUCP>
Date: Thu, 3-Nov-83 13:59:12 EST
Article-I.D.: utcsrgv.2626
Posted: Thu Nov  3 13:59:12 1983
Date-Received: Thu, 3-Nov-83 15:57:42 EST
Organization: CSRG, University of Toronto
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A brief general-ppurpose to get things off to a start:
I understand that virtually all the information one can hope to
find about one's genealogy is available at one place -- the Mormon
headquarters in Salt Lake City, Utah. Apparently they copied all
existing records of everyone's birth and death, as there are certain
genealogical requirements for admission to the C of JC of the LDS.
    Comments? This is hearsay, and I'd be delighted to have it
confirmed/denied, plus further relevant information (like an address).

    steve hull (hull, a corruption of hill; there are, to my knowledge
		two hull families, an English and an Irish/Scottish;
		mine's the latter -- records indicate a Thomas de Hulle
		living in Normandy in the 16th century...)
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Re: sources [message #72919 is a reply to message #71092] Sat, 25 May 2013 10:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Message-ID: <724@uw-june>
Date: Sat, 5-Nov-83 20:41:42 EST
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Posted: Sat Nov  5 20:41:42 1983
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Regarding the Mormons-- it is true that they have a huge amount of
information.  No, they haven't copied every birth and death record in
the world... they're working on it.

They have a belief that salvation can be offered to dead ancestors,
once you know who your dead ancestors are.  So, it is sort of an
imperative that a practicing Mormon work to find out as many ancestors
as possible.  And when you go to a public library to get genealogical
information, they are likely to assume you are a Mormon, they see so
many of them.

Anyway, they are kind enough to allow the rest of us access to their
records.  It is possible to obtain information by going to Utah, or to
their local parishes (they don't call them parishes, but I don't
remember the word they do use).

-Joe P.
Re: sources [message #72922 is a reply to message #71092] Sat, 25 May 2013 10:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Date: Mon, 7-Nov-83 08:31:20 EST
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Posted: Mon Nov  7 08:31:20 1983
Date-Received: Tue, 8-Nov-83 13:22:07 EST
Organization: Beehive International, SLC, UT
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A great deal has been gathered by members of the church as far
as genealogical records are concerned, however, they have not
been able to gather as much as they would hope for. To microfilm
these old records, members (who have the time and money, usually
retirees) have gone to places and photographed parish records
or township documents and send them back to Salt Lake to be stored.
Many times the local officials or government will not allow this
and the records of their area will go unsaved. So the church does not
have *all* records, but they are trying.

Also, the comment that it is a prerequisite for admission to the 
church is to have some geneaology work done is not true. After a person
is baptized into the church they are encouraged to search out their
ancestors.

If you would like some information on your genealogical questions
simply drop a note via snail-mail to:
       Genealogical Society of Utah
       50 E North Temple
       Salt Lake City, Utah 84015
This is not for members only so don't think you have to join the church
to get the information. The people here are more than happy to help
anyone.

Dennis McCurdy
Beehive International
(..harpo!utah-cs!beesvax)

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Re: sources [message #72924 is a reply to message #71092] Sat, 25 May 2013 10:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Date: Mon, 7-Nov-83 14:21:43 EST
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Posted: Mon Nov  7 14:21:43 1983
Date-Received: Wed, 9-Nov-83 02:57:07 EST
Organization: Beehive International, SLC, UT
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Oops! On a prievious article I gave the wrong zip code for the
geneology library here in Salt Lake City. I said it was 84015 and
the REAL zip code is 84150. Sorry about that. Must of been the
donut I had this morning. My thanks to Daryl of byucse for pointing
out the mistake.

The correct address:
    Genealogical Society of Utah
    50 E North Temple
    Salt Lake City, Utah   84150
    
Dennis McCurdy
Beehive International
(..harpo!utah-cs!beesvax)
Re: sources [message #72931 is a reply to message #71092] Sat, 25 May 2013 10:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Message-ID: <979@utah-gr.UUCP>
Date: Sat, 5-Nov-83 23:31:49 EST
Article-I.D.: utah-gr.979
Posted: Sat Nov  5 23:31:49 1983
Date-Received: Fri, 11-Nov-83 06:41:48 EST
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It is true that there is a GREAT deal of genealogical info available
here in SLC at the Mormon Genealogical Library.  The reason they are so
interested in this info is so that they can baptize their ancestors into
the church retroactively.  There are very few post-1900 records, since
many people born after 1900 are still living, and this would be an
invasion of privacy (or so the story goes). 

I'd like to take a moment here to plug the upcoming June Usenix
conference right here in SLC.  Come to Usenix and discover your roots!

=Spencer
Re: sources [message #72936 is a reply to message #71092] Sat, 25 May 2013 10:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Date: Tue, 8-Nov-83 16:27:14 EST
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Posted: Tue Nov  8 16:27:14 1983
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If you are interested and you happen to live in one of the more populated
areas, there is a good possibility that there will be a Mormon genealogical
library near you.  To find out, try looking in your telephone directory in the
white pages under "Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints".  Under that
heading look for Branch Genealogical Library or Stake Genealogical Library.
If you find one near by, pay them a visit.  Tell the receptionist that you would
like to find out what is available and how to use there services.

	Glen Meldrum
Re: sources [message #72946 is a reply to message #71092] Sat, 25 May 2013 10:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Date: Thu, 17-Nov-83 12:38:14 EST
Article-I.D.: gatech.2192
Posted: Thu Nov 17 12:38:14 1983
Date-Received: Sat, 19-Nov-83 01:30:02 EST
Organization: Georgia Tech School of ICS, Atlanta
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Let's donate a vax to these guys in Salt Lake city so that they can
answer us directly!  Anybody got an extra vax...?
-- 
Jeff Offutt
School of ICS, Georgia Tech, Atlanta GA
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Re: sources [message #72947 is a reply to message #71092] Sat, 25 May 2013 10:56 Go to previous message
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Message-ID: <2222@utah-cs.UUCP>
Date: Thu, 17-Nov-83 02:08:34 EST
Article-I.D.: utah-cs.2222
Posted: Thu Nov 17 02:08:34 1983
Date-Received: Sat, 19-Nov-83 02:07:45 EST
References: utcsrgv.2626
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Inquiries can be directed to

	Geneological Department
	The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints
	50 E North Temple
	Salt Lake City,  Utah  84111

	Phone numbers all have 801 prefixes
		Library information	531-2331
		British reference	531-2367
		European reference	531-2881
		Scandinavian reference	531-2198
		US-Canada reference	531-2364
		Aquisitions		531-2307
		Technical services	531-2414

The department has the most complete collection of geneological records
anywhere in the world.  It includes records from all parts of the world,
not just Europe and North America (some of these records might not be 
available at this time do to the time it takes to catalog the information).
Records include geneologies, microfilm of parrish records, microfilm of 
Oriental family trees, and other records of geneological importance 
(diaries etc.).  Donations to the library are welcome.  Library information 
can give you better help than I can.  


				Bradley Nordfors Davis

P.S.  Yes, I am a Morman.
P.P.S.  Are there any Nordfors' on the net??
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