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What movie did I miss that one in.  Who is Owen Lars?  Excuse my
ignorance, but I don't remember.  Please enlighten me. (and others, I presume)
I've only seen The Empire Strikes Back once, so maybe that's it.

I agree with Hutch about Princess Who?

I think c3po knew the Princess well, and was protecting the rebel
alliance by belittling the importance of the hologram.

		- Fred P. Andresen (fpa@cvl)

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You didn't miss anything. No where in the movies do they tell you that
Lars was Obi Wan's brother. That little bit of information came out in
the novelization of Return of the Jedi and there's really no excuse for
it. The question should be: Why is in science fiction movies lately 
you have to buy the book to fully appreciate what went on on the screen?
I can think of several examples. Maybe 2001 set a bad example.

Steve Alexander
cmaz504 at ut-ngp

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	Now, now, now... there's no need to be sarcastic just because
you don't remember the name of Luke's uncle and aunt... Owen and Beru
Lars.  The fact that Obi-Wan and Owen are brother's was brought forth
in the novelization of The Return of the Jedi.

 				"This is red-5... I'm going in"
				Len Armstrong
				St. Joseph's University.

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I think someone out there is approaching the truth of the matter.
If Owen Lars was Luke's uncle, he was therefore the brother of Luke's
father, and therefore of Darth Vader. If Obi-Wan was also Owen's brother,
then Obi-Wan was ALSO Darth's brother, and also therefore Luke's uncle. I
think Owen was Darth-Anakin's brother, PERIOD, and there was no family
connection with Obi-Wan. Proofreaders have been known to make misteaks, you
know...
-- 
"That's the biz, sweetheart..."
          Dave Fiedler
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	If Owen Lars is Obi-wans brother then is Luke Obi-wans nephew because
Luke calls Owen "Uncle Owen"?

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Sorry to mystify them what ain't completely Star Warped.

Owen Lars is Luke's Uncle Owen.  Uncle Owen who raised him on Tatooine.
This was revealed in the book version of Retread of the Jedi.

Hutch

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Dave Fiedler (infopro!dave) says:

    If Owen Lars was Luke's uncle, he was therefore the brother of Luke's
    father, and therefore of Darth Vader. If Obi-Wan was also Owen's brother,
    then Obi-Wan was ALSO Darth's brother, and also therefore Luke's uncle.

Come now! Think!  Owen Lars could also be Luke's uncle by being *married* to
the sister of Luke's father. i.e.

	 	???		     ??? Skywalker
		 |			 |
	-----------------	  ---------------
	|		|	  |		|
     Obi-Wan	    Owen Lars == Beru	      Anakin == ???
						      |
						-------------
						|	    |
					      Luke	  Leia

Owen could also be the brother of Luke's mother, the husband of Luke's
mother's sister, ...
-- 
	Tom Teixeira,  Massachusetts Computer Corporation.  Westford MA
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I think that Obi-Wan and Owen are brothers, and Darth/Anakin and Luke's aunt
(Owen's wife) are brother and sister.  This would not make Obi-wan Luke's uncle,
just his uncle's brother.  I'm not very sure about all this, however.
Could somebody who has read the book please try and clean this up?  Thanks
in advance.
-- 

				Archie Lachner
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	I don't believe that 2001 is a fair example of "novels to
explain movies."  Arthur Clarke wrote a short story titled, I believe,
"THE SENTINEL" dealing with mankinds' meeting a monolith-like object
on the moon.  This inspired Stanley Kubrick to envision a screenplay,
which he & Clarke collaborated on.  The movie inspired Clarke to write
a much more complex & humanistic book (more than the movie), which
carried the same title as the movie.

				Richard Patrick
				Symplex Communications
				..!fortune!dsd!symplex!pat

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It is not necessary for Owen to be Darth's brother to be Luke's uncle.
I seem to remember something in the film that indicated that Luke's
father was his Aunt Berue's brother (something in the breakfast-table
dialog between Owen and Berue).  I'm not sure this is the case, but the
possibility is being overlooked by others discussing this matter.  Owen
could be Luke's uncle by marriage only and not by blood.
-- 

				Archie Lachner
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	Now, let's not forget the possibility of Luke simply being told
that Owen was his uncle, but who in reality was actually no such relation.

	I think we all probably have "aunts", "uncles", and "cousins" this 
way.

				Len Armstrong,
				St. Joseph's University.

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 > Now, let's not forget the possibility of Luke simply being told
 > that Owen was his uncle, but who in reality was actually no such relation.

This is the case. It is stated very plainly in the book (I dont have
mine handy, or i would tell you a page number).
-- 
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	I might point out that 'Uncle' also can mean 'guardian',
	and that there was no family relationship between Luke
	and Owen at all.   OR, Owen could have lied to Luke, a
	possibility no one has yet considered, but is probable
	considering Owen's dislike for Jediing around.

			    - Steven (I hate .sig files) Maurer

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		WHO CARES!!!

	All the SW films were good, and that's all I care about!

			Burt Janz @ Axiom Technology