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| Re: Into Darkness [message #63735 is a reply to message #63686] |
Thu, 16 May 2013 22:34   |
ToolPackinMama
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On 5/16/2013 6:10 PM, ToolPackinMama wrote:
> Tonight's the night! Yep, I am going to see it.
Well, the good:
1) The cast is gorgeous and everybody acts their pants off!
2) It's action-packed and an emotional roller coaster ride!
The bad:
1) Nothing makes any dog-blamed sense! LOL!
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| Re: Into Darkness [message #63741 is a reply to message #63735] |
Fri, 17 May 2013 01:34 |
Bast
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ToolPackinMama wrote:
> On 5/16/2013 6:10 PM, ToolPackinMama wrote:
>
>> Tonight's the night! Yep, I am going to see it.
>
> Well, the good:
>
> 1) The cast is gorgeous and everybody acts their pants off!
>
> 2) It's action-packed and an emotional roller coaster ride!
>
> The bad:
>
> 1) Nothing makes any dog-blamed sense! LOL!
As this is aimed at the same A.D.D. audience as the 2009 one,......you
didn't really expect a well writen storyline, did you ?
But lots of oooh-ahhh flashing lights special effects at 240
decibels,....the target audience, with the memory span of a goldfish, will
never know the difference.
I'll bet most think they are watching iron man, or any other similar dumbed
down, waste of two hours.
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| Re: Into Darkness [message #63742 is a reply to message #63735] |
Fri, 17 May 2013 02:00 |
MITO MINISTER
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On May 17, 11:34 am, ToolPackinMama <philnbl...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On 5/16/2013 6:10 PM, ToolPackinMama wrote:
>
>> Tonight's the night! Yep, I am going to see it.
>
> Well, the good:
>
> 1) The cast is gorgeous and everybody acts their pants off!
>
> 2) It's action-packed and an emotional roller coaster ride!
>
> The bad:
>
> 1) Nothing makes any dog-blamed sense! LOL!
And Spock and Uhura get it on. Yay!
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| Re: Into Darkness [message #63743 is a reply to message #63741] |
Fri, 17 May 2013 02:00 |
MITO MINISTER
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On May 17, 2:34 pm, "Bast" <faken...@nomail.invalid> wrote:
> ToolPackinMama wrote:
>> On 5/16/2013 6:10 PM, ToolPackinMama wrote:
>
>>> Tonight's the night! Yep, I am going to see it.
>
>> Well, the good:
>
>> 1) The cast is gorgeous and everybody acts their pants off!
>
>> 2) It's action-packed and an emotional roller coaster ride!
>
>> The bad:
>
>> 1) Nothing makes any dog-blamed sense! LOL!
>
> As this is aimed at the same A.D.D. audience as the 2009 one,......you
> didn't really expect a well writen storyline, did you ?
> But lots of oooh-ahhh flashing lights special effects at 240
> decibels,....the target audience, with the memory span of a goldfish, will
> never know the difference.
>
> I'll bet most think they are watching iron man, or any other similar dumbed
> down, waste of two hours.
Testify!
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| Re: Into Darkness [message #63744 is a reply to message #63743] |
Fri, 17 May 2013 02:33 |
Bast
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MITO MINISTER wrote:
> On May 17, 2:34 pm, "Bast" <faken...@nomail.invalid> wrote:
>> ToolPackinMama wrote:
>>> On 5/16/2013 6:10 PM, ToolPackinMama wrote:
>>
>>>> Tonight's the night! Yep, I am going to see it.
>>
>>> Well, the good:
>>
>>> 1) The cast is gorgeous and everybody acts their pants off!
>>
>>> 2) It's action-packed and an emotional roller coaster ride!
>>
>>> The bad:
>>
>>> 1) Nothing makes any dog-blamed sense! LOL!
>>
>> As this is aimed at the same A.D.D. audience as the 2009 one,......you
>> didn't really expect a well writen storyline, did you ?
>> But lots of oooh-ahhh flashing lights special effects at 240
>> decibels,....the target audience, with the memory span of a goldfish,
>> will never know the difference.
>>
>> I'll bet most think they are watching iron man, or any other similar
>> dumbed down, waste of two hours.
>
> Testify!
Hillary Clinton will testify for me.
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| Re: Into Darkness [message #63808 is a reply to message #63741] |
Fri, 17 May 2013 13:41 |
ToolPackinMama
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On 5/17/2013 1:34 AM, Bast wrote:
> ...you
> didn't really expect a well writen storyline, did you ?
No. I was pretty much prepared for the worst in that area - and the
preparation helped.
> But lots of oooh-ahhh flashing lights special effects at 240
> decibels,...
NEEDS MOAR LENZFLAREZ!!!1!
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| Re: Into Darkness [message #63809 is a reply to message #63808] |
Fri, 17 May 2013 13:44 |
ToolPackinMama
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To be fair, many of the stories from the original series were pretty
idiotic.
Of course, their excuse is they had to rush out one episode a week...
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| Re: Into Darkness [message #63813 is a reply to message #63808] |
Fri, 17 May 2013 15:24 |
Bast
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ToolPackinMama wrote:
> On 5/17/2013 1:34 AM, Bast wrote:
>
>> ...you
>> didn't really expect a well writen storyline, did you ?
>
> No. I was pretty much prepared for the worst in that area - and the
> preparation helped.
>
>> But lots of oooh-ahhh flashing lights special effects at 240
>> decibels,...
>
> NEEDS MOAR LENZFLAREZ!!!1!
Had to laugh at the massive 1/3 page ad today for the movie on Yahoo.
"The first summer movie that's CRAZY GOOD",.
...........hoo boy,.....have they got THAT right.
If you're crazy,...you will think it's good.
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| Re: Into Darkness [message #63830 is a reply to message #63686] |
Fri, 17 May 2013 17:58 |
YourName
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In article <kn3l95$ba6$1@dont-email.me>, ToolPackinMama
<philnblanc@comcast.net> wrote:
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> I am not going to see the 3-D version. Three-D movies give me a
> headache, not sure why.
It's the same process which causes motion sickness. Basically it's because
your brain is telling you you're sitting still while you're eyes are
trying to tell you you're moving. I've only seen one 3D movie and it
didn't seem to affect me, but 3D graphic first / third-person computer
games (although not driving games for some peculiar reason) do make me
extremely sick and headachey after only playing for a few minutes. :-(
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| Re: Into Darkness [message #63831 is a reply to message #63735] |
Fri, 17 May 2013 18:00 |
YourName
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In article <kn44o7$cch$1@dont-email.me>, ToolPackinMama
<philnblanc@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> 1) Nothing makes any dog-blamed sense! LOL!
Nothing JJ Abrmas does (supposedly does anyway) EVER makes sense - 'Lost'
being the "best" example of his confused messes. God help us when he
screws up the Star Wars franchise. :-(
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| Re: Into Darkness [message #63867 is a reply to message #63831] |
Sat, 18 May 2013 06:13 |
Wouter Valentijn
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Your Name wrote:
> In article <kn44o7$cch$1@dont-email.me>, ToolPackinMama
> <philnblanc@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> 1) Nothing makes any dog-blamed sense! LOL!
>
> Nothing JJ Abrmas does (supposedly does anyway) EVER makes sense -
> 'Lost' being the "best" example of his confused messes. God help us
> when he screws up the Star Wars franchise. :-(
I'm picturing it:
Midi-chlorians might be based on a certain red liquid. :-)
--
Wouter Valentijn http://www.j3v.net
Kirk: "My God, Bones... what have I done?"
McCoy: "What you had to do. What you always do: turn death into a fighting
chance to live."
Star Trek III: The Search for Spock.
liam=mail
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| Re: Into Darkness [message #63874 is a reply to message #63830] |
Sat, 18 May 2013 09:44 |
Steven L.
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On 5/17/2013 5:58 PM, Your Name wrote:
> In article <kn3l95$ba6$1@dont-email.me>, ToolPackinMama
> <philnblanc@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> I am not going to see the 3-D version. Three-D movies give me a
>> headache, not sure why.
>
> It's the same process which causes motion sickness. Basically it's because
> your brain is telling you you're sitting still while you're eyes are
> trying to tell you you're moving. I've only seen one 3D movie and it
> didn't seem to affect me, but 3D graphic first / third-person computer
> games (although not driving games for some peculiar reason) do make me
> extremely sick and headachey after only playing for a few minutes. :-(
It's well known that some video games can give you motion sickness.
But that's not the only problem with 3D movies. They can also cause
eyestrain, because Hollywood takes a lot of shortcuts with 3D and so the
3D effect looks artificial, with peculiar depth of field.
That was the case with "Avatar." While the scene was 3D, the characters
were not. Instead of having depth (you see around the person's face to
look at their ears further away), everybody looked like cardboard
cutouts placed in a scene. Kind of like those old Viewmasters.
--
Steven L.
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| Re: Into Darkness [message #63910 is a reply to message #63809] |
Sat, 18 May 2013 17:59 |
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On 5/17/2013 10:44 AM, ToolPackinMama wrote:
> To be fair, many of the stories from the original series were pretty
> idiotic.
>
> Of course, their excuse is they had to rush out one episode a week...
Both true. So let's not redo any of those.
GeneK
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| Re: Into Darkness [message #63911 is a reply to message #63874] |
Sat, 18 May 2013 18:03 |
YourName
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In article <e8mdneEnD52RGwrMnZ2dnUVZ_rydnZ2d@earthlink.com>, "Steven L."
<sdlitvin@earthlink.net> wrote:
> On 5/17/2013 5:58 PM, Your Name wrote:
>> In article <kn3l95$ba6$1@dont-email.me>, ToolPackinMama
>> <philnblanc@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> I am not going to see the 3-D version. Three-D movies give me a
>>> headache, not sure why.
>>
>> It's the same process which causes motion sickness. Basically it's because
>> your brain is telling you you're sitting still while you're eyes are
>> trying to tell you you're moving. I've only seen one 3D movie and it
>> didn't seem to affect me, but 3D graphic first / third-person computer
>> games (although not driving games for some peculiar reason) do make me
>> extremely sick and headachey after only playing for a few minutes. :-(
>
> It's well known that some video games can give you motion sickness.
>
> But that's not the only problem with 3D movies. They can also cause
> eyestrain, because Hollywood takes a lot of shortcuts with 3D and so the
> 3D effect looks artificial, with peculiar depth of field.
>
> That was the case with "Avatar." While the scene was 3D, the characters
> were not. Instead of having depth (you see around the person's face to
> look at their ears further away), everybody looked like cardboard
> cutouts placed in a scene. Kind of like those old Viewmasters.
The 2D movies that have been 3D-erised are even worse looking and exactly
like those bad old Viewmaster reels with cardboard cut-outs on gradually
blurrier background strips. Even though I'm a huge Star Wars fan, I
couldn't be bothered staying for the whole of the 3D-erised Episode I
movie and cancelling the rest of them is one of the few good decisions
Disney has made since buying the franchose from George Lucas. :-(
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| Re: Into Darkness [message #63912 is a reply to message #63910] |
Sat, 18 May 2013 18:06 |
Bast
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GeneK wrote:
> On 5/17/2013 10:44 AM, ToolPackinMama wrote:
>> To be fair, many of the stories from the original series were pretty
>> idiotic.
>>
>> Of course, their excuse is they had to rush out one episode a week...
>
> Both true. So let's not redo any of those.
>
> GeneK
So if one hour episodes could be cranked out one a week,...with a few
clinker plot holes.
What's jar jar binks/abrams excuse to need about 4 years to do two-hours,
......that really stinks ?
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| Re: Into Darkness [message #65739 is a reply to message #63912] |
Sat, 18 May 2013 18:58 |
ToolPackinMama
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On 5/18/2013 6:06 PM, Bast wrote:
> So if one hour episodes could be cranked out one a week,...with a few
> clinker plot holes.
>
> What's jar jar binks/abrams excuse to need about 4 years to do two-hours,
> .....that really stinks ?
>
Ya KNOW!?
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| Re: Into Darkness [message #65785 is a reply to message #63744] |
Sun, 19 May 2013 07:13 |
MITO MINISTER
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On May 17, 3:33 pm, "Bast" <faken...@nomail.invalid> wrote:
> MITO MINISTER wrote:
>> On May 17, 2:34 pm, "Bast" <faken...@nomail.invalid> wrote:
>>> ToolPackinMama wrote:
>>>> On 5/16/2013 6:10 PM, ToolPackinMama wrote:
>
>>>> > Tonight's the night! Yep, I am going to see it.
>
>>>> Well, the good:
>
>>>> 1) The cast is gorgeous and everybody acts their pants off!
>
>>>> 2) It's action-packed and an emotional roller coaster ride!
>
>>>> The bad:
>
>>>> 1) Nothing makes any dog-blamed sense! LOL!
>
>>> As this is aimed at the same A.D.D. audience as the 2009 one,......you
>>> didn't really expect a well writen storyline, did you ?
>>> But lots of oooh-ahhh flashing lights special effects at 240
>>> decibels,....the target audience, with the memory span of a goldfish,
>>> will never know the difference.
>
>>> I'll bet most think they are watching iron man, or any other similar
>>> dumbed down, waste of two hours.
>
>> Testify!
>
> Hillary Clinton will testify for me.
You live in a fantasy world in the basement.
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| Re: Into Darkness [message #65786 is a reply to message #63831] |
Sun, 19 May 2013 07:14 |
MITO MINISTER
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On May 18, 7:00 am, YourN...@YourISP.com (Your Name) wrote:
> In article <kn44o7$cc...@dont-email.me>, ToolPackinMama
>
> <philnbl...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> 1) Nothing makes any dog-blamed sense! LOL!
>
> Nothing JJ Abrmas does (supposedly does anyway) EVER makes sense - 'Lost'
> being the "best" example of his confused messes. God help us when he
> screws up the Star Wars franchise. :-(
Why are you so affected by popular entertainment? Do something else
with your life.
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| Re: Into Darkness [message #65787 is a reply to message #63912] |
Sun, 19 May 2013 07:16 |
MITO MINISTER
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On May 19, 7:06 am, "Bast" <faken...@nomail.invalid> wrote:
> GeneK wrote:
>> On 5/17/2013 10:44 AM, ToolPackinMama wrote:
>>> To be fair, many of the stories from the original series were pretty
>>> idiotic.
>
>>> Of course, their excuse is they had to rush out one episode a week...
>
>> Both true. So let's not redo any of those.
>
>> GeneK
>
> So if one hour episodes could be cranked out one a week,...with a few
> clinker plot holes.
>
> What's jar jar binks/abrams excuse to need about 4 years to do two-hours,
> .....that really stinks ?
He makes no excuses. He doesn't give a shit about what you and 10,000
fanboys think.
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| Re: Into Darkness [message #79723 is a reply to message #63851] |
Mon, 03 June 2013 11:07 |
Bast
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Your Name wrote:
> In article <11459-5196DA02-275@storefull-3112.bay.webtv.net>,
> BillV2320@webtv.net (J.R.R. Bob Dobbs EPV) wrote:
>>
>> When does it come out on DVD?
>
> Judging by the speed they release them these days, probably next week
> ... then again, judging by the accidental eary release of the current
> "Doctor Who" season set, the "Into Darkness" DVD was probably released
> a month ago. ;-)
Irregardless,....multiple cam copies are now floating on every internet
"torrent" site, so no excuse to waste money paying to see it.
.....Unless you have some chronic psychiatric condition that forces you to
spend money, when you don't want to.
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| Re: Into Darkness [message #79841 is a reply to message #79723] |
Mon, 03 June 2013 17:12 |
YourName
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In article <koibad$151$1@dont-email.me>, "Bast" <fake_name@nomail.invalid>
wrote:
> Your Name wrote:
>> In article <11459-5196DA02-275@storefull-3112.bay.webtv.net>,
>> BillV2320@webtv.net (J.R.R. Bob Dobbs EPV) wrote:
>>>
>>> When does it come out on DVD?
>>
>> Judging by the speed they release them these days, probably next week
>> ... then again, judging by the accidental eary release of the current
>> "Doctor Who" season set, the "Into Darkness" DVD was probably released
>> a month ago. ;-)
>
> Irregardless,....multiple cam copies are now floating on every internet
> "torrent" site, so no excuse to waste money paying to see it.
> ....Unless you have some chronic psychiatric condition that forces you to
> spend money, when you don't want to.
Most of the people on the planet do have the condition that they spend
money they don't have to - hence the "need" to constantly upgrade a
perfectly working computer, mobile phone, car, house, TV, etc. for the
"bigger", "better", "shinier" new model. :-\
In SOME cases this leads to the issue we have here in New Zealand where
the government is going to start paying for kids at "poor area schools" to
be given breakfast ... something the parents should be doing rather than
wasting money on irrelevant toys, smoking, drugs, and gambling.
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| Re: Into Darkness [message #81451 is a reply to message #79841] |
Tue, 04 June 2013 09:09 |
Daniel47@teranews.com
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Your Name wrote:
<Snip>
> In SOME cases this leads to the issue we have here in New Zealand where
> the government is going to start paying for kids at "poor area schools" to
> be given breakfast ... something the parents should be doing rather than
> wasting money on irrelevant toys, smoking, drugs, and gambling.
Here, in NZ's bigger, western island, Australia, we've had the school
breakfast programs in widespread place for many years. Started as some
very caring teachers, then became State Government funded.
And not just "at "poor area schools""
Daniel
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| Re: Into Darkness [message #81840 is a reply to message #81451] |
Wed, 05 June 2013 17:04 |
YourName
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In article <kGlrt.19438$uT3.1889@newsfe20.iad>, "Daniel47@teranews.com"
<dxmm@albury.nospam.net.au> wrote:
> Your Name wrote:
>
> <Snip>
>> In SOME cases this leads to the issue we have here in New Zealand where
>> the government is going to start paying for kids at "poor area schools" to
>> be given breakfast ... something the parents should be doing rather than
>> wasting money on irrelevant toys, smoking, drugs, and gambling.
>
> Here, in NZ's bigger, western island, Australia, we've had the school
> breakfast programs in widespread place for many years. Started as some
> very caring teachers, then became State Government funded.
>
> And not just "at "poor area schools"
The basic "breakfast in schools" has been going for a while in some
schools unofficially by parents, teachers, community groups, etc., but now
it's about to become an official Government programme, although some
school principals are declining the offer. (Judging by the complete
disaster the Government has made of the new teacher payroll system, an
Australian system, over the last eight months or more, I would decline it
too - some teachers haven't been paid at all by the system over those
months, so the schools have had to dig into their limited budgets while
the Government continues to insist the it would be more expensive and
dfficult to replace the system rather than let Novopay fix it.)
There was also a "trial" by Fonterra dairy company to put milk in a few
"poor schools", which is now also being rolled out to more schools.
BUT it's it's yet another burden on the tax system and doesn't address the
real issues - over-pricing by companies and shops, and some parents who
waste money on idiocies rather than food for their kids.
On the other end of the scale we have idiotic school principals who are
trying to force parents into buying their kids laptops / tablets to take
to school.
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| Re: Into Darkness [message #81896 is a reply to message #79723] |
Thu, 06 June 2013 00:58 |
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Originally posted by: trekky0623
> Irregardless,....multiple cam copies are now floating on every internet
> "torrent" site, so no excuse to waste money paying to see it.
> ....Unless you have some chronic psychiatric condition that forces you
> to spend money, when you don't want to.
Not everyone wants to watch a movie filmed on a shoddy home video
camera inside of a dark theater.
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| Re: Into Darkness [message #81901 is a reply to message #81896] |
Thu, 06 June 2013 02:13 |
YourName
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In article <51b016f8$0$63291$c3e8da3$3a1a2348@news.astraweb.com>,
trekky0623 wrote:
>>
>> Irregardless,....multiple cam copies are now floating on every internet
>> "torrent" site, so no excuse to waste money paying to see it.
>> ....Unless you have some chronic psychiatric condition that forces you
>> to spend money, when you don't want to.
>
> Not everyone wants to watch a movie filmed on a shoddy home video
> camera inside of a dark theater.
Then Hollyweird shouldn't pay JJ Abrams to make his movies that way. ;-)
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| Re: Into Darkness [message #81920 is a reply to message #81901] |
Thu, 06 June 2013 02:39 |
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Originally posted by: trekky0623
On 2013-06-06 06:13:19 +0000, Your Name said:
>> Not everyone wants to watch a movie filmed on a shoddy home video
>> camera inside of a dark theater.
>
> Then Hollyweird shouldn't pay JJ Abrams to make his movies that way. ;-)
OH SNAP.
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| Re: Into Darkness [message #81945 is a reply to message #81840] |
Thu, 06 June 2013 09:07 |
Daniel47@teranews.com
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Your Name wrote:
> In article <kGlrt.19438$uT3.1889@newsfe20.iad>, "Daniel47@teranews.com"
> <dxmm@albury.nospam.net.au> wrote:
>> Your Name wrote:
>>
>> <Snip>
> The basic "breakfast in schools" has been going for a while in some
> schools unofficially by parents, teachers, community groups, etc., but now
> it's about to become an official Government programme, although some
> school principals are declining the offer. (Judging by the complete
> disaster the Government has made of the new teacher payroll system, an
> Australian system, over the last eight months or more, I would decline it
> too - some teachers haven't been paid at all by the system over those
> months, so the schools have had to dig into their limited budgets while
> the Government continues to insist the it would be more expensive and
> dfficult to replace the system rather than let Novopay fix it.)
>
> There was also a "trial" by Fonterra dairy company to put milk in a few
> "poor schools", which is now also being rolled out to more schools.
I can remember, 45-50'ish years ago, being Class Milk Monitor, about 5
mins before "little lunch" (mid-morning break) having to go out to the
kerb-side and get a create of (number of kids in the class)(about 40)
1/3rd pint milk bottles. If you were lucky, on a cold morning, the milk
bottles would still be warm!! Conversely, on a hot morning, the milk
might still be chilled!
> BUT it's it's yet another burden on the tax system and doesn't address the
> real issues - over-pricing by companies and shops, and some parents who
> waste money on idiocies rather than food for their kids.
Doesn't address the real problem where both parents are expected to have
full time, paying, jobs!! So they can waste money .......
> On the other end of the scale we have idiotic school principals who are
> trying to force parents into buying their kids laptops / tablets to take
> to school.
Forget parents, our federal Government is going to finance a
laptop/tablet for each and every High School kid! So single Tax-payers,
like me, are paying for the kids computers!!
Oops!! Seems it was from Yr 9 not Yr 7!
http://thecybersafetylady.com.au/2011/12/whos-going-to-provi de-school-laptops-to-australian-students-in-2013/
Daniel
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| Re: Into Darkness [message #82044 is a reply to message #81945] |
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In article <BQ%rt.1729$NO1.1363@newsfe04.iad>, "Daniel47@teranews.com"
<dxmm@albury.nospam.net.au> wrote:
> Your Name wrote:
>> In article <kGlrt.19438$uT3.1889@newsfe20.iad>, "Daniel47@teranews.com"
>> <dxmm@albury.nospam.net.au> wrote:
>>> Your Name wrote:
>>>
>>> <Snip>
>> The basic "breakfast in schools" has been going for a while in some
>> schools unofficially by parents, teachers, community groups, etc., but now
>> it's about to become an official Government programme, although some
>> school principals are declining the offer. (Judging by the complete
>> disaster the Government has made of the new teacher payroll system, an
>> Australian system, over the last eight months or more, I would decline it
>> too - some teachers haven't been paid at all by the system over those
>> months, so the schools have had to dig into their limited budgets while
>> the Government continues to insist the it would be more expensive and
>> dfficult to replace the system rather than let Novopay fix it.)
>>
>> There was also a "trial" by Fonterra dairy company to put milk in a few
>> "poor schools", which is now also being rolled out to more schools.
>
> I can remember, 45-50'ish years ago, being Class Milk Monitor, about 5
> mins before "little lunch" (mid-morning break) having to go out to the
> kerb-side and get a create of (number of kids in the class)(about 40)
> 1/3rd pint milk bottles. If you were lucky, on a cold morning, the milk
> bottles would still be warm!! Conversely, on a hot morning, the milk
> might still be chilled!
Yep, I used to get milk at school when I was little and school lunches (I
started school in England), but I have no idea if my parents paid for that
as part of the school fees or by the Government.
>> BUT it's it's yet another burden on the tax system and doesn't address the
>> real issues - over-pricing by companies and shops, and some parents who
>> waste money on idiocies rather than food for their kids.
>
> Doesn't address the real problem where both parents are expected to have
> full time, paying, jobs!! So they can waste money .......
That too, although they usually get some sort of Government assistance,
which is still wasted on unneccessary play things in SOME of the families.
>> On the other end of the scale we have idiotic school principals who are
>> trying to force parents into buying their kids laptops / tablets to take
>> to school.
>
> Forget parents, our federal Government is going to finance a
> laptop/tablet for each and every High School kid! So single Tax-payers,
> like me, are paying for the kids computers!!
>
> Oops!! Seems it was from Yr 9 not Yr 7!
>
>
http://thecybersafetylady.com.au/2011/12/whos-going-to-provi de-school-laptops-to-australian-students-in-2013/
School funding should come out of taxes.
In New Zealand the Government so underfunds schools that they have to ask
parents for "voluntary" school fees, as well as buying the stationery, and
now a laptop / tablet. Of course the New Zealand Government is so moronic
that they don't even properly fund the ambulance service - they have to
rely on donations and sending bills to people using them. X-(
I remember we had a Work Day to help raise funds for our secondary
school's computer room of Apple II computers - we did things like weeding
gardens, washing cars, etc. for local people and businesses.
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Sat, 08 June 2013 11:50 |
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Your Name wrote:
<Snip>
>>> On the other end of the scale we have idiotic school principals who are
>>> trying to force parents into buying their kids laptops / tablets to take
>>> to school.
>>
>> Forget parents, our federal Government is going to finance a
>> laptop/tablet for each and every High School kid! So single Tax-payers,
>> like me, are paying for the kids computers!!
>>
>> Oops!! Seems it was from Yr 9 not Yr 7!
>>
>>
> http://thecybersafetylady.com.au/2011/12/whos-going-to-provi de-school-laptops-to-australian-students-in-2013/
>
> School funding should come out of taxes.
>
> In New Zealand the Government so underfunds schools that they have to ask
> parents for "voluntary" school fees, as well as buying the stationery, and
> now a laptop / tablet. Of course the New Zealand Government is so moronic
> that they don't even properly fund the ambulance service - they have to
> rely on donations and sending bills to people using them. X-(
>
> I remember we had a Work Day to help raise funds for our secondary
> school's computer room of Apple II computers - we did things like weeding
> gardens, washing cars, etc. for local people and businesses.
Here in Australia, we have State schools and Independent/Religious
school systems. Seems to me that the State Government should pay,
totally, for the State System and then, if you (parent) want something
different, you (parent) should pay for it.
Some years ago, one of our State Premiers got into trouble because he
submitted the State budget to parliament and then withdrew it, went away
and cut some money from the State Schools budget and added it to the
Independent/Religious schools budget, then re-submitted the state budget.
Daniel
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| Re: Into Darkness [message #82578 is a reply to message #82577] |
Sat, 08 June 2013 23:13 |
YourName
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In article <1lRst.20783$6_4.20291@newsfe31.iad>, "Daniel47@teranews.com"
<dxmm@albury.nospam.net.au> wrote:
> Your Name wrote:
>
> <Snip>
>>>> On the other end of the scale we have idiotic school principals who are
>>>> trying to force parents into buying their kids laptops / tablets to take
>>>> to school.
>>>
>>> Forget parents, our federal Government is going to finance a
>>> laptop/tablet for each and every High School kid! So single Tax-payers,
>>> like me, are paying for the kids computers!!
>>>
>>> Oops!! Seems it was from Yr 9 not Yr 7!
>>>
>>>
>>
http://thecybersafetylady.com.au/2011/12/whos-going-to-provi de-school-laptops-to-australian-students-in-2013/
>>
>> School funding should come out of taxes.
>>
>> In New Zealand the Government so underfunds schools that they have to ask
>> parents for "voluntary" school fees, as well as buying the stationery, and
>> now a laptop / tablet. Of course the New Zealand Government is so moronic
>> that they don't even properly fund the ambulance service - they have to
>> rely on donations and sending bills to people using them. X-(
>>
>> I remember we had a Work Day to help raise funds for our secondary
>> school's computer room of Apple II computers - we did things like weeding
>> gardens, washing cars, etc. for local people and businesses.
>
> Here in Australia, we have State schools and Independent/Religious
> school systems.
Basically the same in New Zealand. There's also a few private schools
(non-religious, for kids with "rich" parents) and of course some
home-schooled kids.
> Seems to me that the State Government should pay, totally, for the State
> System and then, if you (parent) want something different, you (parent)
> should pay for it.
Yep, but the morons in Govenment would rather spend taxpayer money on
their own pointless overseas trips, perks, and white elephant pet
projects. Meanwhile schools, hospitals, emergency services all go
underfunded and get funding cuts, and things like public transport,
electricity, etc. are sold off to greedy big business who instantly raise
the prices.
> Some years ago, one of our State Premiers got into trouble because he
> submitted the State budget to parliament and then withdrew it, went away
> and cut some money from the State Schools budget and added it to the
> Independent/Religious schools budget, then re-submitted the state budget.
I have a vague recollection of the same thing happening here this year (or
at least stories of it being planned).
The higher up the management ladder people go, the more braincells they
lose and the less common sense they have. :-(
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