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Date: Tue, 19-Jul-83 17:23:00 EDT
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Posted: Tue Jul 19 17:23:00 1983
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From: Peter G. Trei
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Are we really sure Leia is 'the Other'? I dont recall any
proof of this in ROTJ. What does she do in this movie? She totally
screws up the rescue of Han. She took part in an airsled chase,
crashed, and was rescued by the Ewoks (why did'nt they eat her?).
That's all. At least she got to fly the ship in the earlier movies.
If I recall TESB, the OB1/Yoda exchange goes:
OB1: "He is our last hope."
Yoda: "No, there is another."
Yoda and OB1 tell Luke about Leia in ROTJ, but dont say she is
the Other.
Have we seen her use the Force? The only Force-related act I
recall her in was hearing Luke's call in TESB. This does not require
ability. Force-users can project to non-users (remember the Darth
Vader School of Personnel Management). So Luke COULD transmit to her,
without her having any particular ability of her own. I argue that we
have no proof that Leia is either the Other, or that she is a
Force-user. Lucas is keeping her around for something else.
To throw a further spanner in the works, I might point out
that it is entirely possible for non-identical twins (eg, Luke & Leia)
to have different fathers.
Random Notes:
Whenever we see the Force used on a living being, the effects
seem only to be mental. At no point do we see any Force-user levitate
another person (the closest we get is when Luke levitates R2D2 in
TESB, and C3PO's chair in ROTJ). All the physical reactions of people
are reasonably done by mind trickery; people are persuaded not to see
OB1, to show Luke right into Jabba's office, to stop breathing
(permanently), to get the hell out of the way, and so on and so forth,
but when Darth Vader & son fight, what do they do? Throw things at each
other. It would seem that Jedi carry lightsabres because the Force is
generally useless against people. Do the Emperor's blue bolts screw this
idea up? I wish I could see Lucas' position paper on the Force.
What happens to a Jedi's wardrobe when he dies? In ANH, we see
OB1 snuff it, and his cloak is left behind. In ROTJ, Yodas' cloak goes
with him. DV/Anakin seems to leave not only his suit and prosthetics,
but his body as well. Oh well, maybe Yoda is so holy he CAN take it
with him.
I have not re-seen ROTJ recently. Does anyone recall whether
in the final scene LS is carrying his own lightsabre, or his daddies?
PS: there are already pirate videotapes of ROTJ up here...
Peter Trei
BIO3.P-TREI%CU20A@COLUMBIA-20
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