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Date: Thu, 4-Aug-83 09:38:05 EDT
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I am wondering if there is a termcap and/or terminal emulator
for the Atari 800 which would allow the use of vi or other
programs based on the curses package.  Please reply by mail.
I will post a summary if someone requests it.

	Thanks in advance,
	John Montgomery
	BTL Holmdel
	ihnp4!houxd!johnm or
	harpo!houxd!johnm

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Date: Tue, 9-Aug-83 11:57:48 EDT
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     Perhaps this belongs it net.flame, but...
No, thank you, I will NOT respond by mail.  In the past month I've seen
(it seems like) 20 or 30 people asking for termcap entries for atari
computers, most like the following:

	"Uh, does anybody out there have a termcap entry for a 40
 	 column atari 800???"

     How can anybody answer this???  After all, he could be running 10 different
terminal programs, with 20 different modems!

     Now, lest you all think this message merely a flame, pertinent information
follows, please read it!

     A little history first.  I've been working on UN*X for about 5 years and
when 3 years ago I decided to get a terminal for home, I figured -- Why not
get a computer instead?   Then you can run a terminal and Star Raiders at the
same time!  So, with $729 in hand (sigh, only $400 today...) I went down to
the handy-dandy post office, and picked up my computer.  But for a long time,
I looked for terminal programs without any luck.  I mean, we all know how
incredible Atari's terminal program is. (I ripped the chips out of that
cartridge to make it into another game for someone)

Ah, but then I received my first APX (Atari-Program-Exchange) catalog.  In it
was a little add for a terminal program called "Chameleon".  (which, I believe,
HAS been mentioned before, but the requests for termcaps never seem to stop)
And so, with considerably less than $700 in hand, I bought it.

     In summary, Chameleon is a superb product.  It features an 80 column
screen (with 40 displayable columns, you scroll across with Start and
shift-Start), and multiple pages preserved in memory, which can be scrolled 
in the vertical direction.  But the most important feature of Chameleon is
(da-da-da-daaaa) Terminal Emulation.  With it, your atari can be either
a Adm-3a (which isn't so hot) or a Vt-52 (which is hotter).

     And so, no more termcap entries.  Just "set term=vt52" and you're all set.

     Sorry this message had to be so long, but I want to get some life back
into this apparently sagging newsgroup

					John Irwin
					{burdvax, allegra}!psuvax!jdi


     PS:   Just out of curiosity, what happens to all those poor people who
bought the 1200, now that the 14XX's are coming out?
     PPS:  Don't send mail in response to this article, post it!