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ATARI 354 DISK DRIVE [message #48993] Sun, 14 April 2013 14:30 Go to next message
Barry is currently offline  Barry
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Can one simply change the drive Mech out of an Atari 354 disk drive and
get a DS/DD Drive, if thats the type of Mech you put in it???

The Atari 354 is a single sided drive asfaik.

Also, if you put a 1.44 Mech into a Atari 354 drive, would it work as a
DS/DD on
a 1040STE, But if you connected it to a MEGA STE as a second drive, would
it work
as a DS/DD and or a 1.44 Drive, especially if the Mega STe has the 1.44
internal drive?

Or does something else need to be done.

Barry
phantomm@suddenlink.net
Re: ATARI 354 DISK DRIVE [message #49413 is a reply to message #48993] Wed, 17 April 2013 09:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bravo Sierra Computer is currently offline  Bravo Sierra Computer
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On Sun, 14 Apr 2013, Barry wrote:

> Can one simply change the drive Mech out of an Atari 354 disk drive and get a

> DS/DD Drive, if thats the type of Mech you put in it???

>

> The Atari 354 is a single sided drive asfaik.

>

> Also, if you put a 1.44 Mech into a Atari 354 drive, would it work as a DS/DD

> on a 1040STE, But if you connected it to a MEGA STE as a second drive, would

> it work as a DS/DD and or a 1.44 Drive, especially if the Mega STe has the

> 1.44 internal drive?

>

> Or does something else need to be done.

>

> Barry

> phantomm@suddenlink.net


I've Taken A Double Sided ST Drive Mech Salvaged From A Dead ST & Inserted It
Into An SF354 And Made It Work! The Important Thing Is To Get One With A
Matching Eject Button! I've Also Replaced The Defective Internal Drive In My
Mega ST With A Drive Mech From An SF314! =-=Ben=-=

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Re: ATARI 354 DISK DRIVE [message #49924 is a reply to message #49413] Sat, 20 April 2013 08:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Steve Stupple is currently offline  Steve Stupple
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Bravo Sierra Computers <Atari@aracnet.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Apr 2013, Barry wrote:

>

>> Can one simply change the drive Mech out of an Atari 354 disk drive and

>> get a > DS/DD Drive, if thats the type of Mech you put in it???

>>

>> The Atari 354 is a single sided drive asfaik.

>>

>> Also, if you put a 1.44 Mech into a Atari 354 drive, would it work as a

>> DS/DD > on a 1040STE, But if you connected it to a MEGA STE as a second

>> drive, would > it work as a DS/DD and or a 1.44 Drive, especially if the

>> Mega STe has the > 1.44 internal drive?

>>

>> Or does something else need to be done.

>>

>> Barry

>> phantomm@suddenlink.net

>

> I've Taken A Double Sided ST Drive Mech Salvaged From A Dead ST & Inserted It

> Into An SF354 And Made It Work! The Important Thing Is To Get One With A

> Matching Eject Button! I've Also Replaced The Defective Internal Drive In

> My Mega ST With A Drive Mech From An SF314! =-=Ben=-=

>

> Games/Software, Hardware/Accessories & Books/References!Atari Computers,8 Bit

> & ST Lines + Atari 2600/5200/7800, Jaguar & Lynx Games, Consoles & Hand Held!

> FREE Catalogs at http://BensCatalogs.Atari.org or http://BenSells.Atari.org

> Request Atari Catalogs by E-Mail at Atari@aracnet.com or BenSells@Atari.org &

> Please Specify Atari 8 Bit, ST, 2600/7800, 5200, Jaguar or Lynx!!! Or Request

> Complete Catalog Archives In Either .ARC, .LZH, .ZIP,Or .ZOO Formats!Call Ben

> anytime at (503)256-9974! Come For The Sales, Stay For The Service!1978-2013!

> Sent on my Atari Computer


Unlike amiga drives, atari st drives are sort of standard. So any 3.5"
drive should fit as they use the stand schugart interface. I've never tried
a direct replacement for hd drives, you won't be able to go hd but should
be able to read dd disks though.

Steve
Re: ATARI 354 DISK DRIVE [message #49951 is a reply to message #48993] Sat, 20 April 2013 15:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
randy.viau is currently offline  randy.viau
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On Sunday, April 14, 2013 2:30:56 PM UTC-4, Barry wrote:
> Can one simply change the drive Mech out of an Atari 354 disk drive and

>

> get a DS/DD Drive, if thats the type of Mech you put in it???

>

>

>

> The Atari 354 is a single sided drive asfaik.

>

>

>

> Also, if you put a 1.44 Mech into a Atari 354 drive, would it work as a

>

> DS/DD on

>

> a 1040STE, But if you connected it to a MEGA STE as a second drive, would

>

> it work

>

> as a DS/DD and or a 1.44 Drive, especially if the Mega STe has the 1.44

>

> internal drive?

>

>

>

> Or does something else need to be done.

>

>

>

> Barry

>

> phantomm@suddenlink.net


most ibm drives are set too drive b so you need to set it to drive A all all later disk drives for ibm do this with the cable.
try to find a drive with < A -B > on it try a 720k drive from a apple.
some 1.44 drives will not work on a stf - stfm -ste. // megaste may work in 720k
only.
Re: ATARI 354 DISK DRIVE [message #50302 is a reply to message #49951] Tue, 23 April 2013 12:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Steve Stupple is currently offline  Steve Stupple
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<randy.viau@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, April 14, 2013 2:30:56 PM UTC-4, Barry wrote:

>> Can one simply change the drive Mech out of an Atari 354 disk drive and

>>

>> get a DS/DD Drive, if thats the type of Mech you put in it???

>>

>>

>>

>> The Atari 354 is a single sided drive asfaik.

>>

>>

>>

>> Also, if you put a 1.44 Mech into a Atari 354 drive, would it work as a

>>

>> DS/DD on

>>

>> a 1040STE, But if you connected it to a MEGA STE as a second drive, would

>>

>> it work

>>

>> as a DS/DD and or a 1.44 Drive, especially if the Mega STe has the 1.44

>>

>> internal drive?

>>

>>

>>

>> Or does something else need to be done.

>>

>>

>>

>> Barry

>>

>> phantomm@suddenlink.net

>

> most ibm drives are set too drive b so you need to set it to drive A

> all all later disk drives for ibm do this with the cable.

> try to find a drive with < A -B > on it try a 720k drive from a apple.

> some 1.44 drives will not work on a stf - stfm -ste. // megaste may work in 720k

> only.


Atari setup shouldn't make a difference, I'm using hd in my lighthouse
towered ste, and have no problem. My mste came with a hd drive. The floppy
lines on the st's are connected in parallel with each other. That's why you
are able to have 2 external drives daisy chained, if you disconnect the
internal one.

Steve
Re: ATARI 354 DISK DRIVE [message #50996 is a reply to message #49951] Sat, 27 April 2013 13:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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<randy.viau@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:918b22b2-a686-496e-8c89-202d31628703@googlegroups.com...
> On Sunday, April 14, 2013 2:30:56 PM UTC-4, Barry wrote:

>> Can one simply change the drive Mech out of an Atari 354 disk drive and

>>

>> get a DS/DD Drive, if thats the type of Mech you put in it???

>>

>>

>>

>> The Atari 354 is a single sided drive asfaik.

>>

>>

>>

>> Also, if you put a 1.44 Mech into a Atari 354 drive, would it work as a

>>

>> DS/DD on

>>

>> a 1040STE, But if you connected it to a MEGA STE as a second drive,

>> would

>>

>> it work

>>

>> as a DS/DD and or a 1.44 Drive, especially if the Mega STe has the 1.44

>>

>> internal drive?

>>

>>

>>

>> Or does something else need to be done.

>>

>>

>>

>> Barry

>>

>> phantomm@suddenlink.net

>

> most ibm drives are set too drive b so you need to set it to drive A

> all all later disk drives for ibm do this with the cable.

> try to find a drive with < A -B > on it try a 720k drive from a apple.

> some 1.44 drives will not work on a stf - stfm -ste. // megaste may work

> in 720k

> only.

>

Well I need it for a Drive B as the Atari 354 drive i have is a external
drive. Single Sided.
My MegaSTE has a 1.44mb drive A inside.
If you have ever connected a second drive to a MSTE that has the internal
1.44mb Drive A
you'll understand what I'm talking about.

However I have a 1040STe, and using the 354 as a Drive B thats DSDD would be
ok.
I'm just wondering what type of Mech will work and if a 1.44 would do both
jobs if I want to
use it for either the 1040STE or MSTE as a second 1.44.

Barry
phantomm@suddenlink.net
Re: ATARI 354 DISK DRIVE [message #55672 is a reply to message #50996] Mon, 06 May 2013 11:24 Go to previous message
Steve Stupple is currently offline  Steve Stupple
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"Barry" <phantomm@suddenlink.net> wrote:
> <randy.viau@gmail.com> wrote in message

> news:918b22b2-a686-496e-8c89-202d31628703@googlegroups.com...

>> On Sunday, April 14, 2013 2:30:56 PM UTC-4, Barry wrote:

>>> Can one simply change the drive Mech out of an Atari 354 disk drive and

>>>

>>> get a DS/DD Drive, if thats the type of Mech you put in it???

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> The Atari 354 is a single sided drive asfaik.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Also, if you put a 1.44 Mech into a Atari 354 drive, would it work as a

>>>

>>> DS/DD on

>>>

>>> a 1040STE, But if you connected it to a MEGA STE as a second drive, >> would

>>>

>>> it work

>>>

>>> as a DS/DD and or a 1.44 Drive, especially if the Mega STe has the 1.44

>>>

>>> internal drive?

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Or does something else need to be done.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Barry

>>>

>>> phantomm@suddenlink.net

>>

>> most ibm drives are set too drive b so you need to set it to drive A >

>> all all later disk drives for ibm do this with the cable.

>> try to find a drive with < A -B > on it try a 720k drive from a apple.

>> some 1.44 drives will not work on a stf - stfm -ste. // megaste may work > in 720k

>> only.

>>

> Well I need it for a Drive B as the Atari 354 drive i have is a external

> drive. Single Sided.

> My MegaSTE has a 1.44mb drive A inside.

> If you have ever connected a second drive to a MSTE that has the internal 1.44mb Drive A

> you'll understand what I'm talking about.

>

> However I have a 1040STe, and using the 354 as a Drive B thats DSDD would be ok.

> I'm just wondering what type of Mech will work and if a 1.44 would do

> both jobs if I want to

> use it for either the 1040STE or MSTE as a second 1.44.

>

> Barry

> phantomm@suddenlink.net


Double sided should work, I use a 720k with my mste, and that will work for
both machines. Can't say what a 1.44 would do on a mste as I haven't needed
to try it, but you won't be able to use hd mode on a standard ste. I had to
modify mine.

But saying that, and knowing how they are wired, there shouldn't be any
reason you shouldn't be able to use hd on the mega. All drive lines ar
parallel to each other, they are all connected, that is how discovery
cartridge is able to duplicate disks n the spectre mac emulator being able
to treat them as mac drives.
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