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They're Following Me... [message #41581] Thu, 07 March 2013 15:11 Go to next message
JohnV is currently offline  JohnV
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Ok, I've always known about the cookies thing and erasing (or not
accepting ) them, but things have moved on.
How is it that now I am getting several specific singular ads
following me around websites, forums and anything else?
I clear cookies, caches and went so far as to dump the entire HISTORY
in Safari wondering what it is that identifies me and brings these
singular things onto my screen.
Any thoughts?

John V


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Re: They're Following Me... [message #41582 is a reply to message #41581] Thu, 07 March 2013 15:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bruce Johnson is currently offline  Bruce Johnson
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On Mar 7, 2013, at 1:11 PM, JohnV <vengbjohn@verizon.net> wrote:

> Ok, I've always known about the cookies thing and erasing (or not accepting ) them, but things have moved on.

> How is it that now I am getting several specific singular ads following me around websites, forums and anything else?

> I clear cookies, caches and went so far as to dump the entire HISTORY in Safari wondering what it is that identifies me and brings these singular things onto my screen.

> Any thoughts?


They're probably using your IP address for geolocation, which is why most of the ad-supported websites I hit seem to have ads for "Tucson Mother makes money fast!" and the like.

My suggestion is ignore the ads. If you really want ot browse in private, use Incognito windows in Chrome, or Priavte Browsing in Safari, etc.

Owners of websites DO have some control over what ads are placed on them, so if there's something egregiously offensive tell the webmaster of the site in question.

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Re: They're Following Me... [message #41583 is a reply to message #41581] Thu, 07 March 2013 15:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Mar 7, 2013, at 2:11 PM, JohnV wrote:

> I clear cookies, caches and went so far as to dump the entire

> HISTORY in Safari wondering what it is that identifies me and brings

> these singular things onto my screen.


They track your IP address also, so you'll need to use something like
Tor to remain more anonymous. Even Tor can be tracked with some
effort. I have cable which is supposed to be dynamic IP, but AFAIK
they rarely if ever change my IP. If I started hosting they'd probably
pop my IP just to make it more difficult for me, after all, they're
not a bi-directional "information super highway," they're one-way
"intravenous ads for fun & profit".

As in all things, there is a cost to be paid to remain anonymous, in
this case Tor results in a noticeable increase in latency before
webpages load, the cost of slicing & dicing all those packets across
all those anonymous Tor nodes.

Tor on a PPC Mac may be difficult to setup now. AFAIK you use Vidalia
for PPC, but finding a browser may be harder, I suspect you'll need
TenFourFox or something with plugins enabled and a Tor plugin? The
current "Tor Browser Bundle" required OS X 10.6+ and Intel, so getting
Tor working on PPC may be a bit of a challenge now, but I'm sure it
can be done. Just search Tor PPC or Vidalia PPC.

Here are current PPC versions of Vidalia to get you started:
<https://www.torproject.org/dist/vidalia-bundles/>

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Re: They're Following Me... [message #41584 is a reply to message #41583] Thu, 07 March 2013 15:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bruce Johnson is currently offline  Bruce Johnson
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On Mar 7, 2013, at 1:43 PM, Kris Tilford <ktilford1@cox.net> wrote:

> On Mar 7, 2013, at 2:11 PM, JohnV wrote:

>

>> I clear cookies, caches and went so far as to dump the entire HISTORY in Safari wondering what it is that identifies me and brings these singular things onto my screen.

>

> They track your IP address also, so you'll need to use something like Tor to remain more anonymous. Even Tor can be tracked with some effort. I have cable which is supposed to be dynamic IP, but AFAIK they rarely if ever change my IP. If I started hosting they'd probably pop my IP just to make it more difficult for me, after all, they're not a bi-directional "information super highway," they're one-way "intravenous ads for fun & profit".

>

> As in all things, there is a cost to be paid to remain anonymous, in this case Tor results in a noticeable increase in latency before webpages load, the cost of slicing & dicing all those packets across all those anonymous Tor nodes.

>

> Tor on a PPC Mac may be difficult to setup now. AFAIK you use Vidalia for PPC, but finding a browser may be harder, I suspect you'll need TenFourFox or something with plugins enabled and a Tor plugin? The current "Tor Browser Bundle" required OS X 10.6+ and Intel, so getting Tor working on PPC may be a bit of a challenge now, but I'm sure it can be done. Just search Tor PPC or Vidalia PPC.

>

> Here are current PPC versions of Vidalia to get you started:

> <https://www.torproject.org/dist/vidalia-bundles/>


Much simpler to find someone else's wifi to get on the internet :-)

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Re: They're Following Me... [message #41620 is a reply to message #41581] Thu, 07 March 2013 18:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Judith Berkowitz is currently offline  Judith Berkowitz
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On Mar 7, 12:11 pm, JohnV <vengbj...@verizon.net> wrote:
...
> How is it that now  I am getting several specific singular ads

> following me around websites, forums and anything else?

...
> Any thoughts?

>

> John V


- Adblock Plus adblockplus.org/
and
- Click to Flash clicktoflash.com/
get rid of the symptoms of the problem.

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Re: They're Following Me... [message #42310 is a reply to message #41581] Thu, 07 March 2013 22:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jerry Kemp is currently offline  Jerry Kemp
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On 03/ 7/13 02:11 PM, JohnV wrote:
> Ok, I've always known about the cookies thing and erasing (or not

> accepting ) them, but things have moved on.

> How is it that now I am getting several specific singular ads following

> me around websites, forums and anything else?

> I clear cookies,


You are still accepting cookies?

> caches and went so far as to dump the entire HISTORY in

> Safari wondering what it is that identifies me and brings these singular

> things onto my screen.

> Any thoughts?

>

> John V

>

>


Also, don't forget to address flash cookies/LSO's. I use the
BetterPrivacy Firefox plug-in to address those.

And, AFAIK, Ghostery (another Firefox plugin) is probably one of the
best options to deal with trackers.

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Re: They're Following Me... [message #42494 is a reply to message #41582] Tue, 12 March 2013 22:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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At 1:36 PM -0700 03/07/2013, Bruce Johnson wrote:
> Owners of websites DO have some control over what ads are placed on

> them, so if there's something egregiously offensive tell the

> webmaster of the site in question.


It's a shame more web sites don't exercise more control over the ads.
I know the ad networks offer all kinds of choices (and data formats).

Seems to me that with a little brains, they could actually make ads
interesting. You know, something apropos but non-intrusive to the
story. Show a Mac ad next to a story about Windows malware. Or an
add for a cruise line, next to a story about an airplane crash.
Perhaps an ad for the newest Freddie or Jason movie, next to a Disney
review. ...

- Dan.
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Re: They're Following Me... [message #42549 is a reply to message #42494] Tue, 12 March 2013 23:47 Go to previous message
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On Mar 12, 2013, at 9:59 PM, Dan wrote:

> At 1:36 PM -0700 03/07/2013, Bruce Johnson wrote:

>> Owners of websites DO have some control over what ads are placed on them, so if there's something egregiously offensive tell the webmaster of the site in question.

>

> It's a shame more web sites don't exercise more control over the ads. I know the ad networks offer all kinds of choices (and data formats).

>

> Seems to me that with a little brains, they could actually make ads interesting. You know, something apropos but non-intrusive to the story. Show a Mac ad next to a story about Windows malware. Or an add for a cruise line, next to a story about an airplane crash. Perhaps an ad for the newest Freddie or Jason movie, next to a Disney review. ...

>

> - Dan.

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What I hate are them thar' roll-over ads that suddenly take over the whole page!

JT

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