| Prepping a G4/10.5.8 for sale [message #34818] |
Mon, 28 January 2013 14:24  |
kimtoufectis
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I'm getting a G4 iMac ready to sell (I'm not willing to give up the G4
"Sunflower" form factor so I found a faster one with a larger display).
You'd think a 10-year old mac user would know what to do, but no dice; as a
non-techie I need some step-by-step guidance.
I bought it used 18 months ago with 10.5.8 installed. The prior user swept
it pretty clean beforehand and set up a 15 GB bootable "Recovery" partition
on the hard drive in addition to the 105 GB "OS X" partition from which it
boots. I imagine this is the key to putting the machine back the way I got
it. I think what I want to do is boot from the Recovery partition, then
overwrite the current main partition with another version of the recovery
partition. Questions:
1. Can I do this from Disk Utility or do I need other software to proceed?
2. What are the steps I need to follow to proceed?
I added wifi via a RALink micro-USB device, and installed drivers
(currently there's a RALink folder in my Utilities folder). RALink was
acquired by another company so I'd rather the drivers convey.
3. Even if so, I'd like wifi to work from buyer boot-up. Is there a way I
can put those drivers into the recovery partition so they're available to
the buyer?
Thanks in advance for helping a relative newbie...
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| Re: Prepping a G4/10.5.8 for sale [message #34832 is a reply to message #34818] |
Mon, 28 January 2013 14:36  |
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> Questions:
> 1. Can I do this from Disk Utility or do I need other software to proceed?
> 2. What are the steps I need to follow to proceed?
Should you want to prepare the machine for a new user, so s/he has to go
through the process of adding a user and password, the following process
may be used (this also works should you forget your own password):
1) boot the machine into single user mode using CMD-s,
2) enter the command fsck -fy
3) enter the command mount -uw /
4) enter the command rm /var/db/.AppleSetupDone
5) enter the command shutdown -h now
The machine will power itself off.
The next time the machine is powered on, OS X will enter the user and
password setup process, through the usual Willkommen dialog.
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| Re: Prepping a G4/10.5.8 for sale [message #34833 is a reply to message #34818] |
Mon, 28 January 2013 14:51 |
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Check this site.
The step for giving the next user the "new mac feel" with their very own Welcome Screen is quite simple.
http://hivelogic.com/articles/how-to-prepare-a-mac-for-sale
> "If you’ve installed Mac OS X before, you may recall that after the installation is complete and the Welcome video is finished playing, you’ll be prompted to create a new user account, and it seems that there’s no other choice but to continue the process and create a user. You’d then have to jot this information down for the recipient of the new system. That’s a bit of a tacky solution, and there’s a better way.
>
> After installation, when you’re prompted to create a new user, just press Command-Q."
DaleH
On Jan 28, 2013, at 2:24 PM, kimtoufectis wrote:
> I'm getting a G4 iMac ready to sell (I'm not willing to give up the G4 "Sunflower" form factor so I found a faster one with a larger display). You'd think a 10-year old mac user would know what to do, but no dice; as a non-techie I need some step-by-step guidance.
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| Re: Prepping a G4/10.5.8 for sale [message #34834 is a reply to message #34818] |
Mon, 28 January 2013 15:04 |
Bruce Johnson
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On Jan 28, 2013, at 12:24 PM, kimtoufectis <kimtoufectis@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm getting a G4 iMac ready to sell (I'm not willing to give up the G4 "Sunflower" form factor so I found a faster one with a larger display). You'd think a 10-year old mac user would know what to do, but no dice; as a non-techie I need some step-by-step guidance.
>
> I bought it used 18 months ago with 10.5.8 installed. The prior user swept it pretty clean beforehand and set up a 15 GB bootable "Recovery" partition on the hard drive in addition to the 105 GB "OS X" partition from which it boots. I imagine this is the key to putting the machine back the way I got it. I think what I want to do is boot from the Recovery partition, then overwrite the current main partition with another version of the recovery partition. Questions:
> 1. Can I do this from Disk Utility or do I need other software to proceed?
> 2. What are the steps I need to follow to proceed?
You're on the right track:
1) Boot from your recovery partition by holding down the Option key while starting up.
2) Start Disk Utility and erase the larger partition.
3) Presuming that the "recovery" disk was set up with the OS X installers, install OS X on the freshly erased "drive".
4) To leave it ready for the next users, just quit the new user dialog like Dale says..
To install the Ralink drivers and have them work 'Out of the box' is a little more complex, maybe.
First thing to try is run the installer and see if it will let you select the new Main drive as the place to install them; if it does, then just install and go.
If it does not, then you'll have to actually boot from the new drive, create an admin user, install the drivers, then delete the user as described in this hint: < http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=2007103015173979 1>
The warning here about being careful with dscl is correct, and all those dots and spaces in the command are important.
It may well be far simpler to save the installer on the newly formatted disk after installing OS X and give the new person a note saying "Run this thing first!" to install the drivers.
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| Re: Prepping a G4/10.5.8 for sale [message #34991 is a reply to message #34832] |
Tue, 29 January 2013 23:44 |
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Much obliged, thanks!
On Monday, January 28, 2013 2:36:02 PM UTC-5, PH wrote:
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>
>> Questions:
>> 1. Can I do this from Disk Utility or do I need other software to
> proceed?
>> 2. What are the steps I need to follow to proceed?
>
> Should you want to prepare the machine for a new user, so s/he has to go
> through the process of adding a user and password, the following process
> may be used (this also works should you forget your own password):
>
> 1) boot the machine into single user mode using CMD-s,
>
> 2) enter the command fsck -fy
>
> 3) enter the command mount -uw /
>
> 4) enter the command rm /var/db/.AppleSetupDone
>
> 5) enter the command shutdown -h now
>
> The machine will power itself off.
>
> The next time the machine is powered on, OS X will enter the user and
> password setup process, through the usual Willkommen dialog.
>
>
>
>
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| Re: Prepping a G4/10.5.8 for sale [message #34992 is a reply to message #34833] |
Tue, 29 January 2013 23:45 |
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Good tips; thanks!
On Monday, January 28, 2013 2:51:01 PM UTC-5, DaleH wrote:
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> Check this site.
> The step for giving the next user the "new mac feel" with their very own
> Welcome Screen is quite simple.
>
> http://hivelogic.com/articles/how-to-prepare-a-mac-for-sale
>
>> "If you’ve installed Mac OS X before, you may recall that after the
> installation is complete and the Welcome video is finished playing, you’ll
> be prompted to create a new user account, and it seems that there’s no
> other choice but to continue the process and create a user. You’d then have
> to jot this information down for the recipient of the new system. That’s a
> bit of a tacky solution, and there’s a better way.
>>
>> After installation, when you’re prompted to create a new user, just
> press Command-Q."
>
> DaleH
>
> On Jan 28, 2013, at 2:24 PM, kimtoufectis wrote:
>
>> I'm getting a G4 iMac ready to sell (I'm not willing to give up the G4
> "Sunflower" form factor so I found a faster one with a larger display).
> You'd think a 10-year old mac user would know what to do, but no dice; as a
> non-techie I need some step-by-step guidance.
>>
>>
>
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| Re: Prepping a G4/10.5.8 for sale [message #34993 is a reply to message #34834] |
Tue, 29 January 2013 23:47 |
kimtoufectis
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Each of you filled in a part of the puzzle for me. Thanks much!
On Monday, January 28, 2013 3:04:04 PM UTC-5, joh...@pharmacy.arizona.edu
wrote:
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>
> On Jan 28, 2013, at 12:24 PM, kimtoufectis <kimtou...@gmail.com<javascript:>>
> wrote:
>
>> I'm getting a G4 iMac ready to sell (I'm not willing to give up the G4
> "Sunflower" form factor so I found a faster one with a larger display).
> You'd think a 10-year old mac user would know what to do, but no dice; as a
> non-techie I need some step-by-step guidance.
>>
>> I bought it used 18 months ago with 10.5.8 installed. The prior user
> swept it pretty clean beforehand and set up a 15 GB bootable "Recovery"
> partition on the hard drive in addition to the 105 GB "OS X" partition from
> which it boots. I imagine this is the key to putting the machine back the
> way I got it. I think what I want to do is boot from the Recovery
> partition, then overwrite the current main partition with another version
> of the recovery partition. Questions:
>> 1. Can I do this from Disk Utility or do I need other software to
> proceed?
>> 2. What are the steps I need to follow to proceed?
>
> You're on the right track:
>
> 1) Boot from your recovery partition by holding down the Option key while
> starting up.
> 2) Start Disk Utility and erase the larger partition.
> 3) Presuming that the "recovery" disk was set up with the OS X installers,
> install OS X on the freshly erased "drive".
> 4) To leave it ready for the next users, just quit the new user dialog
> like Dale says..
>
>
> To install the Ralink drivers and have them work 'Out of the box' is a
> little more complex, maybe.
>
> First thing to try is run the installer and see if it will let you select
> the new Main drive as the place to install them; if it does, then just
> install and go.
>
> If it does not, then you'll have to actually boot from the new drive,
> create an admin user, install the drivers, then delete the user as
> described in this hint: <
> http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=2007103015173979 1>
>
> The warning here about being careful with dscl is correct, and all those
> dots and spaces in the command are important.
>
> It may well be far simpler to save the installer on the newly formatted
> disk after installing OS X and give the new person a note saying "Run this
> thing first!" to install the drivers.
>
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> University of Arizona
> College of Pharmacy
> Information Technology Group
>
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| Re: Prepping a G4/10.5.8 for sale [message #35120 is a reply to message #34832] |
Wed, 30 January 2013 23:04 |
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I used DaleH and Bruce's instructions to clean off my stuff, and made sure
the machine boots to the main partition again, then tried the instructions
below and hit a wall.
I got to a command prompt by holding CMD-S while booting, but my keyboard
entries didn't register at all. Here are the last few lines before the
prompt:
BSD root: disk0s3, major 14, minor 2
Singleuser boot -- fsck not done
Root device is mounted read-only
If you want to make modifications to files:
/sbin/fsck -fy
/sbin/mound -uw /
If you wish to boot the system:
exit
:/ root#
...so I'm stuck?!?
On Monday, January 28, 2013 2:36:02 PM UTC-5, PH wrote:
>
>
>> Questions:
>> 1. Can I do this from Disk Utility or do I need other software to
> proceed?
>> 2. What are the steps I need to follow to proceed?
>
> Should you want to prepare the machine for a new user, so s/he has to go
> through the process of adding a user and password, the following process
> may be used (this also works should you forget your own password):
>
> 1) boot the machine into single user mode using CMD-s,
>
> 2) enter the command fsck -fy
>
> 3) enter the command mount -uw /
>
> 4) enter the command rm /var/db/.AppleSetupDone
>
> 5) enter the command shutdown -h now
>
> The machine will power itself off.
>
> The next time the machine is powered on, OS X will enter the user and
> password setup process, through the usual Willkommen dialog.
>
>
>
>
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| Re: Prepping a G4/10.5.8 for sale [message #35154 is a reply to message #35120] |
Thu, 31 January 2013 09:45 |
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Il giorno 31/01/13 05.04, kimtoufectis ha scritto:
> I got to a command prompt by holding CMD-S while booting, but my keyboard
> entries didn't register at all.
I always got my keyboard working when in single-user (CMD+S) mode, and I was
using a non-Apple keyboard (both in 10.4 and 10.6).
Have you got a "weird", unusual keyboard?
How is your keyboard connected to the Mac? I know it should be connected
directly to the Mac's USB port, NOT through an USB hub.
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| Re: Prepping a G4/10.5.8 for sale [message #35223 is a reply to message #35154] |
Fri, 01 February 2013 01:16 |
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On Thursday, January 31, 2013 9:45:58 AM UTC-5, Valter Viglietti wrote:
> Il giorno 31/01/13 05.04, kimtoufectis ha scritto:
>
>> I got to a command prompt by holding CMD-S while booting, but my
> keyboard
>> entries didn't register at all.
>
> I always got my keyboard working when in single-user (CMD+S) mode, and I
> was
> using a non-Apple keyboard (both in 10.4 and 10.6).
> Have you got a "weird", unusual keyboard?
>
> How is your keyboard connected to the Mac? I know it should be connected
> directly to the Mac's USB port, NOT through an USB hub.
>
> No, it's the same Ice White iMac keyboard I've been using on the machine.
Works fine when I boot normally, just not when I boot into single user
mode. Thinking that it might be a keyboard problem I switched it with a
2006 flat aluminum keyboard I've used on another iMac--still couldn't type
anything at the single user mode command prompt...
After booting normally, I went back to Disk Utility for clues. I see both
my OS X partition (105 GB, 93 GB free) and the Rescue partition (15 GB). A
difference I noted in the two partitions: it reports that OS X mounts at
"/", and it reports Rescue as mounting at /Volumes/Rescue. No idea whether
this is the way things should be or not...
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| Re: Prepping a G4/10.5.8 for sale [message #35247 is a reply to message #35223] |
Fri, 01 February 2013 08:06 |
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Il giorno 01/02/13 07.16, kimtoufectis ha scritto:
> No, it's the same Ice White iMac keyboard I've been using on the machine.
> Thinking that it might be a keyboard problem I switched it with a
> 2006 flat aluminum keyboard I've used on another iMac
I imagine both are wired; and me, too, can't understand why they do not
work. :-/
> A difference I noted in the two partitions: it reports that OS X mounts at
> "/", and it reports Rescue as mounting at /Volumes/Rescue. No idea whether
> this is the way things should be or not...
I'm no expert on OSX/Unix things, but AFAIK this is normal: the boot
disk/partition is reported as "/" (I think it's called the "root level"),
other disks/partitions are reported inside the "/Volumes" directory (and
that's the place you interact with them using the Terminal, if you want).
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