|
|
|
|
|
|
| Re: Rare interview with Trek's 1st Captain reveals hopes for a series [message #35849 is a reply to message #33625] |
Tue, 05 February 2013 17:55   |
PITA-Prime
Messages: 1
Registered: February 2013
Karma: 0
|
Junior Member |
|
|
On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 22:27:04 -0800 (PST), Frank Drebbin
<madeforzyngagames@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jan 16, 5:53Â pm, BillV2...@webtv.net (J.R Bob Dobbs EPV) wrote:
>> http://mlvb.net/blastr.com/2013/01/rare-interview-with-treks .php
>
>
> I'd rather read a rare interview with the police officer who was in
> charge of the scene after your body was found.
http://www.blastr.com/2013/01/rare-interview-with-treks.php
Hunter's Pike was a lot more troubled like Bakula's Archer. That
"Mirror" episode of "Enterprise" where we finally hear the voices in
mirror Archer's head explains a lot about why Archer Prime was such a
big PITA all the time.
Rare interview with Trek's 1st Captain reveals hopes for a series
Nathalie Caron
Wed, 01/16/2013 - 2:16pm
Before Capt. James T. Kirk was at the helm of the U.S.S. Starship
Enterprise, there was Capt. Christopher Pike, played by the late
Jeffrey Hunter. The actor played the now-iconic role in the original
un-aired 1964 Star Trek TV pilot, titled "The Cage," which now serves
as some sort of prequel to TOS.
Hunter died in 1969, way way way before there were Star Trek
conventions. So the fans never really had the chance to hear the late
actor's opinions on the sci-fi series.
Until now.
In a rare January 1965 interview that was reprinted in Starlog
Magazine, Hunter told a Hollywood columnist how he hoped "The Cage"
would be picked up as a series.
Thanks to Trek Web, we now have a few excerpts from this rare and
fascinating interview.
"We run into pre-historic worlds, contemporary societies and
civilizations far more developed than our own. It's a great format
because writers have a free hand — they can have us land on a monster
infested planet, or deal in human relations involving the large number
of people who live in this gigantic ship."
"We should know within several weeks whether the show has been
sold. It will be an hour long, in color, with a regular cast of a
half-dozen or so and an important guest star each week. The things
that intrigues me the most is that it is actually based on the Rand
Corporation's projection of things to come. Except for the fictional
characters, it will be like getting a look into the future and some of
the predictions will surely come true in our lifetime."
"With all the weird surroundings of outer space, the basic
underlying theme of the show is a phylosophical approach to man's
relationship to woman. There are both sexes in the crew and, in fact,
the first officer is a woman ['Number One' played by Majel Barrett]"
As some of you may know, the pilot was deemed too cerebral by the
studio and was scrapped before a brand-new and more "action-packed"
pilot, "Where No Man Has Gone Before" (the episode that features a
certain Gary Mitchell) with William Shatner as Kirk, was shot.
However, the new pilot aired as the third episode in the regular
series, after "The Man Trap" and "Charlie X."
What remained of the original pilot was then later re-used in the
two-part season-one episode "The Menagerie," and the character of
Pike—now played by Bruce Greenwood—was successfully rebooted in J.J.
Abrams' Star Trek films and is more popular than ever.
What do you think about Hunter's vision for the series? And how about
his comment that the show was a "philosophical approach to man's
relationship to woman?" Do you think it fits with what Star Trek—Gene
Roddenberry's "Wagon Train to the stars"—became just two years later,
when the show first aired in late September 1966?
(via Trek Web)
|
|
|
|
| Re: Rare interview with Trek's 1st Captain reveals hopes for a series [message #35872 is a reply to message #35849] |
Tue, 05 February 2013 22:51 |
MITO MINISTER
Messages: 197
Registered: August 2012
Karma: 0
|
Senior Member |
|
|
On Feb 6, 7:55Â am, PITA-Pr...@Directive.nul wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 22:27:04 -0800 (PST), Frank Drebbin
>
> <madeforzyngaga...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Jan 16, 5:53 pm, BillV2...@webtv.net (J.R Bob Dobbs EPV) wrote:
>>> http://mlvb.net/blastr.com/2013/01/rare-interview-with-treks .php
>
>> I'd rather read a rare interview with the police officer who was in
>> charge of the scene after your body was found.
>
> http://www.blastr.com/2013/01/rare-interview-with-treks.php
>
> Hunter's Pike was a lot more troubled like Bakula's Archer. Â That
> "Mirror" episode of "Enterprise" where we finally hear the voices in
> mirror Archer's head explains a lot about why Archer Prime was such a
> big PITA all the time.
>
> Rare interview with Trek's 1st Captain reveals hopes for a series
> Nathalie Caron
> Wed, 01/16/2013 - 2:16pm
>
> Before Capt. James T. Kirk was at the helm of the U.S.S. Starship
> Enterprise, there was Capt. Christopher Pike, played by the late
> Jeffrey Hunter. The actor played the now-iconic role in the original
> un-aired 1964 Star Trek TV pilot, titled "The Cage," which now serves
> as some sort of prequel to TOS.
>
> Hunter died in 1969, way way way before there were Star Trek
> conventions. So the fans never really had the chance to hear the late
> actor's opinions on the sci-fi series.
>
> Until now.
>
> In a rare January 1965 interview that was reprinted in Starlog
> Magazine, Hunter told a Hollywood columnist how he hoped "The Cage"
> would be picked up as a series.
>
> Thanks to Trek Web, we now have a few excerpts from this rare and
> fascinating interview.
>
> Â Â "We run into pre-historic worlds, contemporary societies and
> civilizations far more developed than our own. It's a great format
> because writers have a free hand they can have us land on a monster
> infested planet, or deal in human relations involving the large number
> of people who live in this gigantic ship."
>
> Â Â "We should know within several weeks whether the show has been
> sold. It will be an hour long, in color, with a regular cast of a
> half-dozen or so and an important guest star each week. The things
> that intrigues me the most is that it is actually based on the Rand
> Corporation's projection of things to come. Except for the fictional
> characters, it will be like getting a look into the future and some of
> the predictions will surely come true in our lifetime."
>
> Â Â "With all the weird surroundings of outer space, the basic
> underlying theme of the show is a phylosophical approach to man's
> relationship to woman. There are both sexes in the crew and, in fact,
> the first officer is a woman ['Number One' played by Majel Barrett]"
>
> As some of you may know, the pilot was deemed too cerebral by the
> studio and was scrapped before a brand-new and more "action-packed"
> pilot, "Where No Man Has Gone Before" (the episode that features a
> certain Gary Mitchell) with William Shatner as Kirk, was shot.
> However, the new pilot aired as the third episode in the regular
> series, after "The Man Trap" and "Charlie X."
>
> What remained of the original pilot was then later re-used in the
> two-part season-one episode "The Menagerie," and the character of
> Pike now played by Bruce Greenwood was successfully rebooted in J.J.
> Abrams' Star Trek films and is more popular than ever.
>
> What do you think about Hunter's vision for the series? And how about
> his comment that the show was a "philosophical approach to man's
> relationship to woman?" Do you think it fits with what Star Trek Gene
> Roddenberry's "Wagon Train to the stars" became just two years later,
> when the show first aired in late September 1966?
>
> (via Trek Web)
"successfully rebooted"
|
|
|
|
| Re: Rare interview with Trek's 1st Captain reveals hopes for a series [message #35899 is a reply to message #35849] |
Wed, 06 February 2013 05:47 |
Wiseguy
Messages: 242
Registered: February 2012
Karma: 0
|
Senior Member |
|
|
PITA-Prime@Directive.nul wrote in
news:2833h8d0g8kr9jd76s7h02nk2l1muo8uk8@anonymous.eternal-september.org:
> On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 22:27:04 -0800 (PST), Frank Drebbin
> <madeforzyngagames@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jan 16, 5:53 pm, BillV2...@webtv.net (J.R Bob Dobbs EPV) wrote:
>>> http://mlvb.net/blastr.com/2013/01/rare-interview-with-treks .php
>>
>>
>> I'd rather read a rare interview with the police officer who was in
>> charge of the scene after your body was found.
>
> http://www.blastr.com/2013/01/rare-interview-with-treks.php
>
>
> Hunter's Pike was a lot more troubled like Bakula's Archer. That
> "Mirror" episode of "Enterprise" where we finally hear the voices in
> mirror Archer's head explains a lot about why Archer Prime was such a
> big PITA all the time.
>
>
>
> Rare interview with Trek's 1st Captain reveals hopes for a series
> Nathalie Caron
> Wed, 01/16/2013 - 2:16pm
>
> Before Capt. James T. Kirk was at the helm of the U.S.S. Starship
> Enterprise, there was Capt. Christopher Pike, played by the late
> Jeffrey Hunter. The actor played the now-iconic role in the original
> un-aired 1964 Star Trek TV pilot, titled "The Cage," which now serves
> as some sort of prequel to TOS.
>
> Hunter died in 1969, way way way before there were Star Trek
> conventions. So the fans never really had the chance to hear the late
> actor's opinions on the sci-fi series.
>
> Until now.
>
> In a rare January 1965 interview that was reprinted in Starlog
> Magazine, Hunter told a Hollywood columnist how he hoped "The Cage"
> would be picked up as a series.
>
> Thanks to Trek Web, we now have a few excerpts from this rare and
> fascinating interview.
>
> "We run into pre-historic worlds, contemporary societies and
> civilizations far more developed than our own. It's a great format
> because writers have a free hand — they can have us land on a monster
> infested planet, or deal in human relations involving the large number
> of people who live in this gigantic ship."
>
> "We should know within several weeks whether the show has been
> sold. It will be an hour long, in color, with a regular cast of a
> half-dozen or so and an important guest star each week. The things
> that intrigues me the most is that it is actually based on the Rand
> Corporation's projection of things to come. Except for the fictional
> characters, it will be like getting a look into the future and some of
> the predictions will surely come true in our lifetime."
>
> "With all the weird surroundings of outer space, the basic
> underlying theme of the show is a phylosophical approach to man's
> relationship to woman. There are both sexes in the crew and, in fact,
> the first officer is a woman ['Number One' played by Majel Barrett]"
>
>
>
> As some of you may know, the pilot was deemed too cerebral by the
> studio and was scrapped before a brand-new and more "action-packed"
> pilot, "Where No Man Has Gone Before" (the episode that features a
> certain Gary Mitchell) with William Shatner as Kirk, was shot.
> However, the new pilot aired as the third episode in the regular
> series, after "The Man Trap" and "Charlie X."
>
> What remained of the original pilot was then later re-used in the
> two-part season-one episode "The Menagerie," and the character of
> Pike—now played by Bruce Greenwood—was successfully rebooted in J.J.
> Abrams' Star Trek films and is more popular than ever.
>
> What do you think about Hunter's vision for the series? And how about
> his comment that the show was a "philosophical approach to man's
> relationship to woman?" Do you think it fits with what Star Trek—Gene
> Roddenberry's "Wagon Train to the stars"—became just two years later,
> when the show first aired in late September 1966?
>
> (via Trek Web)
Then his wife nagged him to not do the second pilot. Would be
interesting to hear his opinion after that.
|
|
|
|
| Re: Rare interview with Trek's 1st Captain reveals hopes for a series [message #35905 is a reply to message #35899] |
Wed, 06 February 2013 07:09 |
MITO MINISTER
Messages: 197
Registered: August 2012
Karma: 0
|
Senior Member |
|
|
On Feb 6, 7:47Â pm, Wiseguy <epw...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> PITA-Pr...@Directive.nul wrote innews:2833h8d0g8kr9jd76s7h02nk2l1muo8uk8@anonymous.eternal-september.org:
>
>
>
>
>
>> On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 22:27:04 -0800 (PST), Frank Drebbin
>> <madeforzyngaga...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>> On Jan 16, 5:53Â pm, BillV2...@webtv.net (J.R Bob Dobbs EPV) wrote:
>>>> http://mlvb.net/blastr.com/2013/01/rare-interview-with-treks .php
>
>>> I'd rather read a rare interview with the police officer who was in
>>> charge of the scene after your body was found.
>
>> http://www.blastr.com/2013/01/rare-interview-with-treks.php
>
>> Hunter's Pike was a lot more troubled like Bakula's Archer. Â That
>> "Mirror" episode of "Enterprise" where we finally hear the voices in
>> mirror Archer's head explains a lot about why Archer Prime was such a
>> big PITA all the time.
>
>> Rare interview with Trek's 1st Captain reveals hopes for a series
>> Nathalie Caron
>> Wed, 01/16/2013 - 2:16pm
>
>> Before Capt. James T. Kirk was at the helm of the U.S.S. Starship
>> Enterprise, there was Capt. Christopher Pike, played by the late
>> Jeffrey Hunter. The actor played the now-iconic role in the original
>> un-aired 1964 Star Trek TV pilot, titled "The Cage," which now serves
>> as some sort of prequel to TOS.
>
>> Hunter died in 1969, way way way before there were Star Trek
>> conventions. So the fans never really had the chance to hear the late
>> actor's opinions on the sci-fi series.
>
>> Until now.
>
>> In a rare January 1965 interview that was reprinted in Starlog
>> Magazine, Hunter told a Hollywood columnist how he hoped "The Cage"
>> would be picked up as a series.
>
>> Thanks to Trek Web, we now have a few excerpts from this rare and
>> fascinating interview.
>
>> Â Â "We run into pre-historic worlds, contemporary societies and
>> civilizations far more developed than our own. It's a great format
>> because writers have a free hand — they can have us land on a monster
>> infested planet, or deal in human relations involving the large number
>> of people who live in this gigantic ship."
>
>> Â Â "We should know within several weeks whether the show has been
>> sold. It will be an hour long, in color, with a regular cast of a
>> half-dozen or so and an important guest star each week. The things
>> that intrigues me the most is that it is actually based on the Rand
>> Corporation's projection of things to come. Except for the fictional
>> characters, it will be like getting a look into the future and some of
>> the predictions will surely come true in our lifetime."
>
>> Â Â "With all the weird surroundings of outer space, the basic
>> underlying theme of the show is a phylosophical approach to man's
>> relationship to woman. There are both sexes in the crew and, in fact,
>> the first officer is a woman ['Number One' played by Majel Barrett]"
>
>> As some of you may know, the pilot was deemed too cerebral by the
>> studio and was scrapped before a brand-new and more "action-packed"
>> pilot, "Where No Man Has Gone Before" (the episode that features a
>> certain Gary Mitchell) with William Shatner as Kirk, was shot.
>> However, the new pilot aired as the third episode in the regular
>> series, after "The Man Trap" and "Charlie X."
>
>> What remained of the original pilot was then later re-used in the
>> two-part season-one episode "The Menagerie," and the character of
>> Pike—now played by Bruce Greenwood—was successfully rebooted in J.J..
>> Abrams' Star Trek films and is more popular than ever.
>
>> What do you think about Hunter's vision for the series? And how about
>> his comment that the show was a "philosophical approach to man's
>> relationship to woman?" Do you think it fits with what Star Trek—Gene
>> Roddenberry's "Wagon Train to the stars"—became just two years later,
>> when the show first aired in late September 1966?
>
>> (via Trek Web)
>
> Then his wife nagged him to not do the second pilot. Would be
> interesting to hear his opinion after that.
TV was "beneath" him.
|
|
|
|
| Re: Rare interview with Trek's 1st Captain reveals hopes for a series [message #35974 is a reply to message #35849] |
Wed, 06 February 2013 14:03 |
Steven L.
Messages: 33
Registered: July 2012
Karma: 0
|
Member |
|
|
On 2/5/2013 5:55 PM, PITA-Prime@Directive.nul wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 22:27:04 -0800 (PST), Frank Drebbin
> <madeforzyngagames@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jan 16, 5:53 pm, BillV2...@webtv.net (J.R Bob Dobbs EPV) wrote:
>>> http://mlvb.net/blastr.com/2013/01/rare-interview-with-treks .php
>>
>>
>> I'd rather read a rare interview with the police officer who was in
>> charge of the scene after your body was found.
>
> http://www.blastr.com/2013/01/rare-interview-with-treks.php
>
>
> Hunter's Pike was a lot more troubled like Bakula's Archer. That
> "Mirror" episode of "Enterprise" where we finally hear the voices in
> mirror Archer's head explains a lot about why Archer Prime was such a
> big PITA all the time.
>
>
>
> Rare interview with Trek's 1st Captain reveals hopes for a series
> Nathalie Caron
> Wed, 01/16/2013 - 2:16pm
>
> Before Capt. James T. Kirk was at the helm of the U.S.S. Starship
> Enterprise, there was Capt. Christopher Pike, played by the late
> Jeffrey Hunter. The actor played the now-iconic role in the original
> un-aired 1964 Star Trek TV pilot, titled "The Cage," which now serves
> as some sort of prequel to TOS.
>
> Hunter died in 1969, way way way before there were Star Trek
> conventions. So the fans never really had the chance to hear the late
> actor's opinions on the sci-fi series.
>
> Until now.
>
> In a rare January 1965 interview that was reprinted in Starlog
> Magazine, Hunter told a Hollywood columnist how he hoped "The Cage"
> would be picked up as a series.
>
> Thanks to Trek Web, we now have a few excerpts from this rare and
> fascinating interview.
>
> "We run into pre-historic worlds, contemporary societies and
> civilizations far more developed than our own. It's a great format
> because writers have a free hand — they can have us land on a monster
> infested planet, or deal in human relations involving the large number
> of people who live in this gigantic ship."
>
> "We should know within several weeks whether the show has been
> sold. It will be an hour long, in color, with a regular cast of a
> half-dozen or so and an important guest star each week. The things
> that intrigues me the most is that it is actually based on the Rand
> Corporation's projection of things to come. Except for the fictional
> characters, it will be like getting a look into the future and some of
> the predictions will surely come true in our lifetime."
>
> "With all the weird surroundings of outer space, the basic
> underlying theme of the show is a phylosophical approach to man's
> relationship to woman. There are both sexes in the crew and, in fact,
> the first officer is a woman ['Number One' played by Majel Barrett]"
>
>
>
> As some of you may know, the pilot was deemed too cerebral by the
> studio and was scrapped before a brand-new and more "action-packed"
> pilot, "Where No Man Has Gone Before" (the episode that features a
> certain Gary Mitchell) with William Shatner as Kirk, was shot.
> However, the new pilot aired as the third episode in the regular
> series, after "The Man Trap" and "Charlie X."
>
> What remained of the original pilot was then later re-used in the
> two-part season-one episode "The Menagerie," and the character of
> Pike—now played by Bruce Greenwood—was successfully rebooted in J.J.
> Abrams' Star Trek films and is more popular than ever.
>
> What do you think about Hunter's vision for the series? And how about
> his comment that the show was a "philosophical approach to man's
> relationship to woman?" Do you think it fits with what Star Trek—Gene
> Roddenberry's "Wagon Train to the stars"—became just two years later,
> when the show first aired in late September 1966?
Hunter was cast to do a pilot that was exploring some actual
philosophical themes. And I guess Hunter expected that the series would
be similar.
That might have been OK for some of the more serious and even tragic
episodes we got in season 1. I could certainly see Captain Pike in
"Balance of Terror." But Roddenberry wanted a captain to be a
swashbuckler in the style of Horatio Hornblower--and Hunter just wasn't
playing Pike that way. Roddenberry wasn't trying to do a philosophical
approach of man to woman--he wanted SEX in the show.
In another interview, Leonard Nimoy said that it would have been hard
for him to play Spock off of Pike's angst. The entire leading cast
seemed to be serious-minded and even driven: Spock, Pike, Boyce, and
"Number One." Not one of them seemed to have a sense of humor.
That kind of cast would not have been appropriate for the humorous
episodes we started to get in TOS, especially in Season 2, with "I,
Mudd" and "A Piece of the Action." McCoy was able to play the clown in
a number of episodes.
DS9 was a serious show with a darker tone. Pike would have been a
natural substitute for Sisko.
--
Steven L.
|
|
|
|
| Re: Rare interview with Trek's 1st Captain reveals hopes for a series [message #35975 is a reply to message #35899] |
Wed, 06 February 2013 14:11 |
Steven L.
Messages: 33
Registered: July 2012
Karma: 0
|
Member |
|
|
On 2/6/2013 5:47 AM, Wiseguy wrote:
> PITA-Prime@Directive.nul wrote in
> news:2833h8d0g8kr9jd76s7h02nk2l1muo8uk8@anonymous.eternal-september.org:
>
>> On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 22:27:04 -0800 (PST), Frank Drebbin
>> <madeforzyngagames@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jan 16, 5:53 pm, BillV2...@webtv.net (J.R Bob Dobbs EPV) wrote:
>>>> http://mlvb.net/blastr.com/2013/01/rare-interview-with-treks .php
>>>
>>>
>>> I'd rather read a rare interview with the police officer who was in
>>> charge of the scene after your body was found.
>>
>> http://www.blastr.com/2013/01/rare-interview-with-treks.php
>>
>>
>> Hunter's Pike was a lot more troubled like Bakula's Archer. That
>> "Mirror" episode of "Enterprise" where we finally hear the voices in
>> mirror Archer's head explains a lot about why Archer Prime was such a
>> big PITA all the time.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rare interview with Trek's 1st Captain reveals hopes for a series
>> Nathalie Caron
>> Wed, 01/16/2013 - 2:16pm
>>
>> Before Capt. James T. Kirk was at the helm of the U.S.S. Starship
>> Enterprise, there was Capt. Christopher Pike, played by the late
>> Jeffrey Hunter. The actor played the now-iconic role in the original
>> un-aired 1964 Star Trek TV pilot, titled "The Cage," which now serves
>> as some sort of prequel to TOS.
>>
>> Hunter died in 1969, way way way before there were Star Trek
>> conventions. So the fans never really had the chance to hear the late
>> actor's opinions on the sci-fi series.
>>
>> Until now.
>>
>> In a rare January 1965 interview that was reprinted in Starlog
>> Magazine, Hunter told a Hollywood columnist how he hoped "The Cage"
>> would be picked up as a series.
>>
>> Thanks to Trek Web, we now have a few excerpts from this rare and
>> fascinating interview.
>>
>> "We run into pre-historic worlds, contemporary societies and
>> civilizations far more developed than our own. It's a great format
>> because writers have a free hand — they can have us land on a monster
>> infested planet, or deal in human relations involving the large number
>> of people who live in this gigantic ship."
>>
>> "We should know within several weeks whether the show has been
>> sold. It will be an hour long, in color, with a regular cast of a
>> half-dozen or so and an important guest star each week. The things
>> that intrigues me the most is that it is actually based on the Rand
>> Corporation's projection of things to come. Except for the fictional
>> characters, it will be like getting a look into the future and some of
>> the predictions will surely come true in our lifetime."
>>
>> "With all the weird surroundings of outer space, the basic
>> underlying theme of the show is a phylosophical approach to man's
>> relationship to woman. There are both sexes in the crew and, in fact,
>> the first officer is a woman ['Number One' played by Majel Barrett]"
>>
>>
>>
>> As some of you may know, the pilot was deemed too cerebral by the
>> studio and was scrapped before a brand-new and more "action-packed"
>> pilot, "Where No Man Has Gone Before" (the episode that features a
>> certain Gary Mitchell) with William Shatner as Kirk, was shot.
>> However, the new pilot aired as the third episode in the regular
>> series, after "The Man Trap" and "Charlie X."
>>
>> What remained of the original pilot was then later re-used in the
>> two-part season-one episode "The Menagerie," and the character of
>> Pike—now played by Bruce Greenwood—was successfully rebooted in J.J.
>> Abrams' Star Trek films and is more popular than ever.
>>
>> What do you think about Hunter's vision for the series? And how about
>> his comment that the show was a "philosophical approach to man's
>> relationship to woman?" Do you think it fits with what Star Trek—Gene
>> Roddenberry's "Wagon Train to the stars"—became just two years later,
>> when the show first aired in late September 1966?
>>
>> (via Trek Web)
>
> Then his wife nagged him to not do the second pilot. Would be
> interesting to hear his opinion after that.
That decision may have cost Jeffrey Hunter his life.
Hunter went on to do more movies--and in 1969, an accident on the set of
one of those movies injured him badly. He died some time after that, at
the age of only 42.
Had Hunter stuck with TOS for the full 3 seasons, he most likely would
not have been cast for that movie.
Hunter's wife died in 1991, at the age of 63.
I wonder if she ever realized what a mistake she had made.
--
Steven L.
|
|
|
|
| Re: Rare interview with Trek's 1st Captain reveals hopes for a series [message #36053 is a reply to message #35974] |
Thu, 07 February 2013 03:59 |
MITO MINISTER
Messages: 197
Registered: August 2012
Karma: 0
|
Senior Member |
|
|
On Feb 7, 4:03Â am, "Steven L." <sdlit...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> On 2/5/2013 5:55 PM, PITA-Pr...@Directive.nul wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>> On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 22:27:04 -0800 (PST), Frank Drebbin
>> <madeforzyngaga...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>> On Jan 16, 5:53 pm, BillV2...@webtv.net (J.R Bob Dobbs EPV) wrote:
>>>> http://mlvb.net/blastr.com/2013/01/rare-interview-with-treks .php
>
>>> I'd rather read a rare interview with the police officer who was in
>>> charge of the scene after your body was found.
>
>> http://www.blastr.com/2013/01/rare-interview-with-treks.php
>
>> Hunter's Pike was a lot more troubled like Bakula's Archer. Â That
>> "Mirror" episode of "Enterprise" where we finally hear the voices in
>> mirror Archer's head explains a lot about why Archer Prime was such a
>> big PITA all the time.
>
>> Rare interview with Trek's 1st Captain reveals hopes for a series
>> Nathalie Caron
>> Wed, 01/16/2013 - 2:16pm
>
>> Before Capt. James T. Kirk was at the helm of the U.S.S. Starship
>> Enterprise, there was Capt. Christopher Pike, played by the late
>> Jeffrey Hunter. The actor played the now-iconic role in the original
>> un-aired 1964 Star Trek TV pilot, titled "The Cage," which now serves
>> as some sort of prequel to TOS.
>
>> Hunter died in 1969, way way way before there were Star Trek
>> conventions. So the fans never really had the chance to hear the late
>> actor's opinions on the sci-fi series.
>
>> Until now.
>
>> In a rare January 1965 interview that was reprinted in Starlog
>> Magazine, Hunter told a Hollywood columnist how he hoped "The Cage"
>> would be picked up as a series.
>
>> Thanks to Trek Web, we now have a few excerpts from this rare and
>> fascinating interview.
>
>> Â Â Â "We run into pre-historic worlds, contemporary societies and
>> civilizations far more developed than our own. It's a great format
>> because writers have a free hand they can have us land on a monster
>> infested planet, or deal in human relations involving the large number
>> of people who live in this gigantic ship."
>
>> Â Â Â "We should know within several weeks whether the show has been
>> sold. It will be an hour long, in color, with a regular cast of a
>> half-dozen or so and an important guest star each week. The things
>> that intrigues me the most is that it is actually based on the Rand
>> Corporation's projection of things to come. Except for the fictional
>> characters, it will be like getting a look into the future and some of
>> the predictions will surely come true in our lifetime."
>
>> Â Â Â "With all the weird surroundings of outer space, the basic
>> underlying theme of the show is a phylosophical approach to man's
>> relationship to woman. There are both sexes in the crew and, in fact,
>> the first officer is a woman ['Number One' played by Majel Barrett]"
>
>> As some of you may know, the pilot was deemed too cerebral by the
>> studio and was scrapped before a brand-new and more "action-packed"
>> pilot, "Where No Man Has Gone Before" (the episode that features a
>> certain Gary Mitchell) with William Shatner as Kirk, was shot.
>> However, the new pilot aired as the third episode in the regular
>> series, after "The Man Trap" and "Charlie X."
>
>> What remained of the original pilot was then later re-used in the
>> two-part season-one episode "The Menagerie," and the character of
>> Pike now played by Bruce Greenwood was successfully rebooted in J.J.
>> Abrams' Star Trek films and is more popular than ever.
>
>> What do you think about Hunter's vision for the series? And how about
>> his comment that the show was a "philosophical approach to man's
>> relationship to woman?" Do you think it fits with what Star Trek Gene
>> Roddenberry's "Wagon Train to the stars" became just two years later,
>> when the show first aired in late September 1966?
>
> Hunter was cast to do a pilot that was exploring some actual
> philosophical themes. Â And I guess Hunter expected that the series would
> be similar.
>
> That might have been OK for some of the more serious and even tragic
> episodes we got in season 1. Â I could certainly see Captain Pike in
> "Balance of Terror." Â But Roddenberry wanted a captain to be a
> swashbuckler in the style of Horatio Hornblower--and Hunter just wasn't
> playing Pike that way. Â Roddenberry wasn't trying to do a philosophical
> approach of man to woman--he wanted SEX in the show.
>
> In another interview, Leonard Nimoy said that it would have been hard
> for him to play Spock off of Pike's angst. Â The entire leading cast
> seemed to be serious-minded and even driven: Â Spock, Pike, Boyce, and
> "Number One." Â Not one of them seemed to have a sense of humor.
>
> That kind of cast would not have been appropriate for the humorous
> episodes we started to get in TOS, especially in Season 2, with "I,
> Mudd" and "A Piece of the Action." Â McCoy was able to play the clown in
> a number of episodes.
>
> DS9 was a serious show with a darker tone. Â Pike would have been a
> natural substitute for Sisko.
>
> --
> Steven L.
Good analysis. Hunter was a stiff. He could never be the ham that Shat
became.
|
|
|
|
| Re: Rare interview with Trek's 1st Captain reveals hopes for a series [message #36054 is a reply to message #35975] |
Thu, 07 February 2013 04:01 |
MITO MINISTER
Messages: 197
Registered: August 2012
Karma: 0
|
Senior Member |
|
|
On Feb 7, 4:11Â am, "Steven L." <sdlit...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> On 2/6/2013 5:47 AM, Wiseguy wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>> PITA-Pr...@Directive.nul wrote in
>> news:2833h8d0g8kr9jd76s7h02nk2l1muo8uk8@anonymous.eternal-september.org:
>
>>> On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 22:27:04 -0800 (PST), Frank Drebbin
>>> <madeforzyngaga...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>>> On Jan 16, 5:53 pm, BillV2...@webtv.net (J.R Bob Dobbs EPV) wrote:
>>>> > http://mlvb.net/blastr.com/2013/01/rare-interview-with-treks .php
>
>>>> I'd rather read a rare interview with the police officer who was in
>>>> charge of the scene after your body was found.
>
>>> http://www.blastr.com/2013/01/rare-interview-with-treks.php
>
>>> Hunter's Pike was a lot more troubled like Bakula's Archer. Â That
>>> "Mirror" episode of "Enterprise" where we finally hear the voices in
>>> mirror Archer's head explains a lot about why Archer Prime was such a
>>> big PITA all the time.
>
>>> Rare interview with Trek's 1st Captain reveals hopes for a series
>>> Nathalie Caron
>>> Wed, 01/16/2013 - 2:16pm
>
>>> Before Capt. James T. Kirk was at the helm of the U.S.S. Starship
>>> Enterprise, there was Capt. Christopher Pike, played by the late
>>> Jeffrey Hunter. The actor played the now-iconic role in the original
>>> un-aired 1964 Star Trek TV pilot, titled "The Cage," which now serves
>>> as some sort of prequel to TOS.
>
>>> Hunter died in 1969, way way way before there were Star Trek
>>> conventions. So the fans never really had the chance to hear the late
>>> actor's opinions on the sci-fi series.
>
>>> Until now.
>
>>> In a rare January 1965 interview that was reprinted in Starlog
>>> Magazine, Hunter told a Hollywood columnist how he hoped "The Cage"
>>> would be picked up as a series.
>
>>> Thanks to Trek Web, we now have a few excerpts from this rare and
>>> fascinating interview.
>
>>> Â Â Â "We run into pre-historic worlds, contemporary societies and
>>> civilizations far more developed than our own. It's a great format
>>> because writers have a free hand they can have us land on a monster
>>> infested planet, or deal in human relations involving the large number
>>> of people who live in this gigantic ship."
>
>>> Â Â Â "We should know within several weeks whether the show has been
>>> sold. It will be an hour long, in color, with a regular cast of a
>>> half-dozen or so and an important guest star each week. The things
>>> that intrigues me the most is that it is actually based on the Rand
>>> Corporation's projection of things to come. Except for the fictional
>>> characters, it will be like getting a look into the future and some of
>>> the predictions will surely come true in our lifetime."
>
>>> Â Â Â "With all the weird surroundings of outer space, the basic
>>> underlying theme of the show is a phylosophical approach to man's
>>> relationship to woman. There are both sexes in the crew and, in fact,
>>> the first officer is a woman ['Number One' played by Majel Barrett]"
>
>>> As some of you may know, the pilot was deemed too cerebral by the
>>> studio and was scrapped before a brand-new and more "action-packed"
>>> pilot, "Where No Man Has Gone Before" (the episode that features a
>>> certain Gary Mitchell) with William Shatner as Kirk, was shot.
>>> However, the new pilot aired as the third episode in the regular
>>> series, after "The Man Trap" and "Charlie X."
>
>>> What remained of the original pilot was then later re-used in the
>>> two-part season-one episode "The Menagerie," and the character of
>>> Pike now played by Bruce Greenwood was successfully rebooted in J.J.
>>> Abrams' Star Trek films and is more popular than ever.
>
>>> What do you think about Hunter's vision for the series? And how about
>>> his comment that the show was a "philosophical approach to man's
>>> relationship to woman?" Do you think it fits with what Star Trek Gene
>>> Roddenberry's "Wagon Train to the stars" became just two years later,
>>> when the show first aired in late September 1966?
>
>>> (via Trek Web)
>
>> Then his wife nagged him to not do the second pilot. Would be
>> interesting to hear his opinion after that.
>
> That decision may have cost Jeffrey Hunter his life.
>
> Hunter went on to do more movies--and in 1969, an accident on the set of
> one of those movies injured him badly. Â He died some time after that, at
> the age of only 42.
>
> Had Hunter stuck with TOS for the full 3 seasons, he most likely would
> not have been cast for that movie.
>
> Hunter's wife died in 1991, at the age of 63.
> I wonder if she ever realized what a mistake she had made.
>
> --
> Steven L.
There was no mistake. Just bad luck. Trek didn't look like much at
that time. Most pilots fail, anyway. Working actors are always
juggling roles.
|
|
|
|
Members
Search
Help
Register
Login
Home
