| Re: Apple --AHT images? [message #30108] |
Thu, 27 December 2012 10:47  |
Bill Connelly
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On Wednesday, June 15, 2011 2:04:30 AM UTC-4, c...@gamewood.net wrote:
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> On Jun 14, 2011, at 12:24 PM, john hios wrote:
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>> Dan wrote:
>>> At 2:53 PM -0400 6/13/2011, Charles Davis wrote:
>>>> I find myself in need of an AHT image for a Dual 2Ghz G5 tower
>>>> Haven't been able to locate in Apple's Support area.
>>>> Anyone have any pointers?
>>>
>>> That's not one of the ones Apple has made available for download...
>>> Um,,,, contact Apple; perhaps they still have some of the
>>> replacement media in stock. If you google around, there are
>>> probably sites selling 'em. Or post a WTB on LEM Swap...
>>>
>>> - Dan.
>> Hello
>>
>> Just went through g5 crisis, And have collected some info [pdf
>> webs ..etc ..]
>>
>> there is no support for PPC any more...??? !!!!
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>> what do you need ?? maybe I have something?
>>
>> joho
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> I'm in need of ASD 2.5.8 [Apple Service Diagnostic (Dual Boot) 2.5.8]
> That will allow me to eliminate HARDWARE as the source of random
> annoyances.
>
> A download link would do the trick --- I'm using a MDD at the moment,
> just would like to have the speed and capacity of the Dual G5 available.
>
> Chuck
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Anyone have the AHT 2.5.2 for use with a Quad Core G5 2.5GHz?
It's supposed to be on an Applications Install DVD that comes with OS X
10.5.5 and greater DVDs ... I think. I have OS X 10.5 Retail which seems to
be missing it.
Any news about the ASD diagnostic disks would be welcomed also.
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| Re: Apple --AHT images? [message #30111 is a reply to message #30108] |
Thu, 27 December 2012 15:21  |
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On Dec 27, 2012, at 7:47 AM, Bill Connelly wrote:
> Anyone have the AHT 2.5.2 for use with a Quad Core G5 2.5GHz?
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> It's supposed to be on an Applications Install DVD that comes with OS X 10.5.5 and greater DVDs ... I think. I have OS X 10.5 Retail which seems to be missing it.
I do not see it on my "retail" OS 10.5.6 DVD. On the other hand, the Mac OS X Install Disc 1 for my old iMac G5 (iSight) includes AHT Version 2.5.3.
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| Re: Apple --AHT images? [message #30112 is a reply to message #30111] |
Thu, 27 December 2012 15:46 |
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On Dec 27, 2012, at 3:21 PM, Fabian Fang wrote:
> On Dec 27, 2012, at 7:47 AM, Bill Connelly wrote:
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>> Anyone have the AHT 2.5.2 for use with a Quad Core G5 2.5GHz?
>>
>> It's supposed to be on an Applications Install DVD that comes with
>> OS X 10.5.5 and greater DVDs ... I think. I have OS X 10.5 Retail
>> which seems to be missing it.
>
>
> I do not see it on my "retail" OS 10.5.6 DVD. On the other hand,
> the Mac OS X Install Disc 1 for my old iMac G5 (iSight) includes AHT
> Version 2.5.3.
>
Hmmm ... I need 2.5.2 i think.
Where on the disk is your 2.5.3? I have an eMac Installation set of
disks for Tiger, which is in the same era as the iMac G5 iSight.
Wonder if its there some where ...
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| Re: Apple --AHT images? [message #30113 is a reply to message #30108] |
Thu, 27 December 2012 15:48 |
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---------- Original message ----------
Subject: Re: Apple --AHT images?
Date: Thursday, 27. December 2012
From: Bill Connelly <billycar69@gmail.com>
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>> I'm in need of ASD 2.5.8 [Apple Service Diagnostic (Dual Boot) 2.5.8]
Just google for it. That’s how I found it anyway.
> Anyone have the AHT 2.5.2 for use with a Quad Core G5 2.5GHz?
I have original media for AHT 2.1.1 (Power Mac G5 Mid-2004 or so) and AHT
2.2.5 (Power Mac G5 Late-2005 i.e. Dual-Core incl. Quad). The problem is, how
should I seperate the AHT part from the Mac OS X installation disc, because
the media is a DVD and up- and download is therefore huge! Also, I don’t want
to give away a full installation disc, but I’m willing to help out with the
AHT part of it.
Does anyone know how to seperate it?
> It's supposed to be on an Applications Install DVD that comes with OS X
> 10.5.5 and greater DVDs ... I think. I have OS X 10.5 Retail which seems to
> be missing it.
>
> Any news about the ASD diagnostic disks would be welcomed also.
As I understand it, ASD 2.5.8 is the last and final version for all Power Macs
G5 except for the Late-2005 (Dual-Core CPUs, PCI-Express) series.
And ASD 2.6.3 is the final version for the Late-2005 (including the Quad) G5s.
Google is you friend.
Cheers,
Andreas aka Mac User #330250
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| Re: Apple --AHT images? [message #30114 is a reply to message #30113] |
Thu, 27 December 2012 16:11 |
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>>> I'm in need of ASD 2.5.8 [Apple Service Diagnostic (Dual Boot)
>>> 2.5.8]
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> Just google for it. That’s how I found it anyway.
>
>> Anyone have the AHT 2.5.2 for use with a Quad Core G5 2.5GHz?
>
> I have original media for AHT 2.1.1 (Power Mac G5 Mid-2004 or so)
> and AHT
> 2.2.5 (Power Mac G5 Late-2005 i.e. Dual-Core incl. Quad).
2.5.2 is for Late 2005. Yours, 2.2.5 is Late 2004 (and so is 2.5.2)
according to Mactracker.
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> Does anyone know how to seperate it?
Is AHT installed on your harddrive? Probably under Utilities?
>>
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>> Any news about the ASD diagnostic disks would be welcomed also.
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> And ASD 2.6.3 is the final version for the Late-2005 (including the
> Quad) G5s.
Any suggestions where to get this version of ASD?
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| Re: Apple --AHT images? [message #30115 is a reply to message #30112] |
Thu, 27 December 2012 16:27 |
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On Dec 27, 2012, at 12:46 PM, Bill Connelly wrote:
> On Dec 27, 2012, at 3:21 PM, Fabian Fang wrote:
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>> The Mac OS X Install Disc 1 for my old iMac G5 (iSight) includes AHT Version 2.5.3.
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> Hmmm ... I need 2.5.2 i think.
>
> Where on the disk is your 2.5.3?
AHT is one of the "bootable devices" on the OS X Install Disc 1. It can be selected by restarting a Mac with the DVD while holding down the Option Key. It will tell you whether your Mac is supported by this version of AHT.
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| Re: Apple --AHT images? [message #30116 is a reply to message #30114] |
Thu, 27 December 2012 18:11 |
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---------- Original message ----------
Subject: Re: Apple --AHT images?
Date: Thursday, 27. December 2012
From: Bill Connelly <billycarmacs69@verizon.net>
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> 2.5.2 is for Late 2005. Yours, 2.2.5 is Late 2004 (and so is 2.5.2)
> according to Mactracker.
You’re right. I got confused: I have 2.1.1 for the original Power Mac G5
(PowerMac7,2), 2.2.5 for a PowerMac7,3 which is propably the Late-2004 if
Mactrackers database states this, and 2.5.2 for the Late-2005 (PowerMac11,2).
To summarize:
AHT 2.1.1 PowerMac7,2 2003 (CPU: PowerPC970)
AHT 2.2.5 PowerMac7,3 “Late 2004” (CPU: PowerPC 970fx)
AHT 2.5.2 PowerMac11,2 “Late 2005” (CPU: PowerPC 970MP)
>> Does anyone know how to seperate it?
>
> Is AHT installed on your harddrive? Probably under Utilities?
No, it cannot be installed. At least not that I heared of. It’s a bootable
part on the gray “Install & Restore” kind of disc sets that came with the Mac.
I guess it may be just one volume on it, but how to copy just that volume and
retain its functionality? Should it be so easy as to copy just this one
partition (i.e. volume)?
I’m not on a Mac right now, so I cannot check if Disk Utility sees the AHT
partition as one seperate volume that can be copied…
> Any suggestions where to get this version of ASD?
Use Google. Use the whole name (not the abbreviation ASD), the version, and
something that looks like “TO RENT” (one letter is missing), and you should be
able to find it. You need of course the right download software to actually get
it, and there has to be at least some_one_ providing it.
Cheers,
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| Re: Apple --AHT images? [message #30117 is a reply to message #30115] |
Fri, 28 December 2012 03:50 |
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Just a thought…
How is it with AHT and ASD?
My *impression* is, that AHT is the part of diagnostics software that is meant
for the customer, and ASD is meant for people doing technical service…
True?
If it is true, and that is my second impression: ASD seems to be the same as
AHT, but with more features (like calibrating things).
True again?
If so, if these assumtions should be right, then all you need really is the
_better_ one: ASD.
With ASD you can do all the thing AHT can do… and more!
Cheers,
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| Re: Apple --AHT images? [message #30120 is a reply to message #30117] |
Sat, 29 December 2012 00:28 |
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On Dec 28, 2012, at 3:50 AM, Mac User #330250 wrote:
> Just a thought…
>
> How is it with AHT and ASD?
>
> My *impression* is, that AHT is the part of diagnostics software
> that is meant
> for the customer, and ASD is meant for people doing technical service…
>
> True?
>
> If it is true, and that is my second impression: ASD seems to be the
> same as
> AHT, but with more features (like calibrating things).
>
> True again?
>
> If so, if these assumtions should be right, then all you need really
> is the
> _better_ one: ASD.
>
> With ASD you can do all the thing AHT can do… and more!
You're probably right.
Someone here Dropbox-ed me ASD 2.6.3 ...
Any idea if there is one for the Quicksilver 2002 Dual 1GHz? a Yikes!?
and a Digital Audio Dual 533? Also would like to have ASD for those
also. Goof=gles some and found some things named thus:
From this reference: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1393097
It looks like I could use ones labeled as:
MTP G4 (July 2000)
MTP G4 (2002)
and 2.1.5
Thanks for your help
My Power Mac Quad Core should arrive later today (Saturday 29th). So
excited ...
Bill
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| Re: Apple --AHT images? [message #30121 is a reply to message #30120] |
Sat, 29 December 2012 05:29 |
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---------- Original message ----------
Subject: Re: Apple --AHT images?
Date: Saturday, 29. December 2012
From: Bill Connelly <billycarmacs69@verizon.net>
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>> With ASD you can do all the thing AHT can do… and more!
>
> You're probably right.
>
> Someone here Dropbox-ed me ASD 2.6.3 ...
Good!
> Any idea if there is one for the Quicksilver 2002 Dual 1GHz? a Yikes!?
> and a Digital Audio Dual 533? Also would like to have ASD for those
> also. Goof=gles some and found some things named thus:
I don’t know…
On a G5, you can calibrate the processor thermal setting using ASD. Other than
that, you *may* get more hardware information, but I’m not sure.
On a G4, you don’t need to calibrate anything. To my knowledge, AHT is as good
as it gets on a G4.
You can get AHT for all Power Macs G4 from Apple:
http://www.info.apple.com/support/aht.html
Cheers,
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| Re: Apple --AHT images? [message #30897 is a reply to message #30111] |
Thu, 27 December 2012 15:35 |
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On Dec 27, 2012, at 12:21 PM, Fabian Fang wrote:
> On Dec 27, 2012, at 7:47 AM, Bill Connelly wrote:
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>> Anyone have the AHT 2.5.2 for use with a Quad Core G5 2.5GHz?
>>
>> It's supposed to be on an Applications Install DVD that comes with
>> OS X 10.5.5 and greater DVDs ... I think. I have OS X 10.5 Retail
>> which seems to be missing it.
>
>
> I do not see it on my "retail" OS 10.5.6 DVD. On the other hand,
> the Mac OS X Install Disc 1 for my old iMac G5 (iSight) includes AHT
> Version 2.5.3.
I have ASD 2.6.3
John Carmonne
Broadway Mfg Inc.
Placentia CA 92870
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| Re: Apple --AHT images? [message #30898 is a reply to message #30111] |
Thu, 27 December 2012 15:30 |
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On Dec 27, 2012, at 3:21 PM, Fabian Fang <ftf@mac.com> wrote:
> On Dec 27, 2012, at 7:47 AM, Bill Connelly wrote:
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>> Anyone have the AHT 2.5.2 for use with a Quad Core G5 2.5GHz?
>>
>> It's supposed to be on an Applications Install DVD that comes with OS X 10.5.5 and greater DVDs ... I think. I have OS X 10.5 Retail which seems to be missing it.
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>
> I do not see it on my "retail" OS 10.5.6 DVD. On the other hand, the Mac OS X Install Disc 1 for my old iMac G5 (iSight) includes AHT Version 2.5.3.
The AHT images were definitely only included on the second disk that shipped with the computer (the gray one). Unfortunately, I don't have one of those disks, but I would second the suggestion that's already been posted in this thread and see if you can get one of LEMSwap.
Regarding the search for an ASD image, I do remember seeing one floating around some less-than-reputable places on the 'net awhile back. That said, the reason it was on one of those less-than-reputable places was that the images are restricted to Apple Authorized Service Providers. Unless you're working for an Apple Authorized Service Provider, getting your hands on an ASD image isn't going to be, strictly speaking, legal.
If you can't purchase an AHT disk off LEMSwap (I can't imagine it would cost that much), you might want to see if you could take it into an AASP. Many universities have one and might be willing to run the test for free for a friend.
Isaac Smith
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| Re: Apple --AHT images? [message #30900 is a reply to message #30897] |
Sun, 30 December 2012 15:17 |
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Checking the net, here's what I found.
1. Honestly, AHT is useless junk. It's not worth your time stressing over it not working. – Dan Barrett Apr 29 at 12:46
2. I suppose AHT has some uses, but mostly I just want the time back I spent trying to use it and then trying to see what the messages mean if it actually finds something (or dealing with the occasional false positive result.) Or what @DanBarrett said. – bmike♦ Dec 6 at 2:03
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On Dec 30, 2012, at 1:57 PM, John Carmonne <carmonne@aol.com> wrote:
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> On Dec 27, 2012, at 12:21 PM, Fabian Fang wrote:
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>> On Dec 27, 2012, at 7:47 AM, Bill Connelly wrote:
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>>> Anyone have the AHT 2.5.2 for use with a Quad Core G5 2.5GHz?
>>>
>>> It's supposed to be on an Applications Install DVD that comes with OS X 10.5.5 and greater DVDs ... I think. I have OS X 10.5 Retail which seems to be missing it.
>>
>>
>> I do not see it on my "retail" OS 10.5.6 DVD. On the other hand, the Mac OS X Install Disc 1 for my old iMac G5 (iSight) includes AHT Version 2.5.3.
>
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> I have ASD 2.6.3
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> John Carmonne
> Broadway Mfg Inc.
> Placentia CA 92870
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| Re: Apple --AHT images? [message #30949 is a reply to message #30898] |
Mon, 31 December 2012 00:16 |
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I just received my Quad G5, and the Seller was kind enough to include
the grey Tiger Install DIsk which includes my AHT 2.5.2.
I'm going to "look" at the Black Retail OS X 10.5 DVD that I purchased
a number of years ago, by Restart-ing holding down "opt" ... if it is
on there, it should appear as a bootable partition, along with my OSs
and the DVDs OS. It is invisible in the FInder.
ASD 2.6.3 has been located also.
Thanks guys!
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