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Wed, 19 December 2012 11:13 |
Michael McMurtrey
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My Radeon 9600 is the Mac edition, and the monitor connectors pose no
problem. My monitor is a ViewSonic 930m connected via the DVI
connector. No problems with Safari, either.
This is why I always look for genuine Mac components and have avoided
flashed PC cards.
Michael McMurtrey
Carrollton, TX
On Dec 19, 2012, at 5:09 AM, g3-5-list@googlegroups.com wrote:
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> Follow-up: ADC - AGP video card issues for MDD and G5 [2 Updates]
> Follow-up: ADC - AGP video card issues for MDD and G5
> frrob <frrob@earthlink.net> Dec 18 10:35AM -0800
>
> Hello again:
>
> You'll recall my travails last week with the Radeon 9800 Pro that I
> couldn't get to work properly/reliably in my 1.25 gHz DP MDD. I
> finally
> gave up on it, and reverted to the stock 9000.
>
> But I purchased a 9600 XT on eBay, which I received yesterday. The
> machine
> wouldn't power on with the card until I taped pins 3 & 11, which
> didn't
> surprise me. But I taped the pins and the machine started right up,
> and the
> card works fine, with a couple of caveats, which I'll get to in a
> moment.
>
> However, much to my chagrin, I discovered that the 9600 XT, and
> presumably
> other AGP/ADC video cards meant originally for the G5, does not have
> its
> ADC connector in the same place as the 9000, or other G4 AGP/ADC
> cards. The
> ADC connector for the 9600 is further back on the card than that of
> the
> 9000. Color me stupid, but, never having poked around inside a G5, I
> did
> not know that the G5 and G4 had different physical locations for the
> ADC
> connector. I figured ADC was ADC. D'oh!
>
> So, though the card works, I've really gained nothing by getting the
> 9600.
> I wanted an AGP/ADC card into which I could just plug my Apple 23
> inch ADC
> display. I can use my DVI - ADC adapter with the card, but what I
> wanted
> was a straight ADC connection.
>
> So, first question: my subsequent research indicates that the only
> AGP/ADC
> card that offers Core Image hardware acceleration, and will
> physically work
> with the ADC connector of the MDD, is the Radeon 9700, which,
> apparently,
> had a version that was designed for the MDD. Is this correct, or are
> there
> others I'm not aware of?
>
> Furthermore, there is one issue with the 9600 when I use it with the
> DVI-ADC adapter and my 23 inch cinema display. For some reason, and
> this
> *only* happens with the DVI-ADC adapter and the cinema display, when
> I load
> pages in Safari that have Flash content, Safari either hangs and
> becomes
> unresponsive, or quits altogether. I then get a dialog that says
> "Safari
> has quit unexpectedly. This may have been caused by the Flash 10.x
> plug-in." This only happens with the 9600 - DVI - ADC - 23 inch cinema
> combination. Any ideas what is going on here? I am guessing, but
> perhaps
> for some reason the Core Image hardware acceleration of the 9600
> (which the
> 9000 doesn't have) doesn't play well with Flash and ADC? I can't
> imagine
> why, but there it is.
>
> Finally, my second question, which may be moot, but: has anyone ever
> tried
> to somehow adapt the ADC connector of one of these G5 ADC cards to
> the ADC
> connector of an MDD? It seems to me that it could be done and could
> work.
> The ADC connector only has two leads, which supply power for the
> display,
> correct? It seems to me that you might be able to come up with some
> kind of
> franken-connector or jumper that would let you go straight ADC.
> Anyone know
> anything out there?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rob J.
>
> Peter Devlin <pdimage@mail.com> Dec 18 07:47PM
>
>> It seems to me that you might be able to come up with some kind of
>> franken-connector or jumper that would let you go straight ADC.
> Anyone know
>> anything out there?
>
> I've seen a G5 AGP Pro 8x card converted to work in a non pro G4 4x
> slot
> - not a pretty sight. But afaik the adc in the mdd has two
> connections in
> the agp slot - thus the taping of pins 3 and 11 on 8x cards which I
> believe
> in the mac slot supply power for the adc connection. In between the
> 4x agp
> mdd and the 8x agp G5 the layout of the slot was converted to agp
> pro design
> to keep adc - apple should have gone for dvi/vga at that point (had to
> eventually) but they have always liked to have their proprietary video
> connectors going way back...
>
> Pete
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Re: Digest for g3-5...@googlegroups.com - 2 Messages in 1 Topic [message #29691 is a reply to message #29472] |
Thu, 20 December 2012 11:17 |
frrob
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Michael:
I think you might have misunderstood me. My 9600 is also the Mac edition,
with DVI and ADC monitor connectors. I was not speaking of the *external*
monitor connector, I was speaking of the *internal* connection for ADC on
the card, and next to the AGP slot in the motherboard. In a MDD G4 and a G5
they are not physically in the same position - in the G4 the connector on
the card hangs out "orphaned", and does not plug into the ADC slot. So I
was looking for a workaround for this.
Thanks,
Rob J..
On Wednesday, December 19, 2012 11:13:08 AM UTC-5, skyki...@verizon.net
wrote:
>
> My Radeon 9600 is the Mac edition, and the monitor connectors pose no
> problem. My monitor is a ViewSonic 930m connected via the DVI connector. No
> problems with Safari, either.
>
> This is why I always look for genuine Mac components and have avoided
> flashed PC cards.
>
> Michael McMurtrey
> Carrollton, TX
>
> On Dec 19, 2012, at 5:09 AM, g3-5...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> wrote:
>
> Today's Topic Summary
>
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list/topics
>
> - Follow-up: ADC - AGP video card issues for MDD and G5<#DCFF471C-2588-438F-90DA-7FC1067CD2A5@verizon.net_group_thread_0>[2 Updates]
>
> Follow-up: ADC - AGP video card issues for MDD and G5<http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list/t/f6e50ddfa1a61d32>
>
> frrob <fr...@earthlink.net <javascript:>> Dec 18 10:35AM -0800
>
> Hello again:
>
> You'll recall my travails last week with the Radeon 9800 Pro that I
> couldn't get to work properly/reliably in my 1.25 gHz DP MDD. I
> finally
> gave up on it, and reverted to the stock 9000.
>
> But I purchased a 9600 XT on eBay, which I received yesterday. The
> machine
> wouldn't power on with the card until I taped pins 3 & 11, which
> didn't
> surprise me. But I taped the pins and the machine started right up,
> and the
> card works fine, with a couple of caveats, which I'll get to in a
> moment.
>
> However, much to my chagrin, I discovered that the 9600 XT, and
> presumably
> other AGP/ADC video cards meant originally for the G5, does not have
> its
> ADC connector in the same place as the 9000, or other G4 AGP/ADC
> cards. The
> ADC connector for the 9600 is further back on the card than that of
> the
> 9000. Color me stupid, but, never having poked around inside a G5, I
> did
> not know that the G5 and G4 had different physical locations for the
> ADC
> connector. I figured ADC was ADC. D'oh!
>
> So, though the card works, I've really gained nothing by getting the
> 9600.
> I wanted an AGP/ADC card into which I could just plug my Apple 23 inch
> ADC
> display. I can use my DVI - ADC adapter with the card, but what I
> wanted
> was a straight ADC connection.
>
> So, first question: my subsequent research indicates that the only
> AGP/ADC
> card that offers Core Image hardware acceleration, and will physically
> work
> with the ADC connector of the MDD, is the Radeon 9700, which,
> apparently,
> had a version that was designed for the MDD. Is this correct, or are
> there
> others I'm not aware of?
>
> Furthermore, there is one issue with the 9600 when I use it with the
> DVI-ADC adapter and my 23 inch cinema display. For some reason, and
> this
> *only* happens with the DVI-ADC adapter and the cinema display, when I
> load
> pages in Safari that have Flash content, Safari either hangs and
> becomes
> unresponsive, or quits altogether. I then get a dialog that says
> "Safari
> has quit unexpectedly. This may have been caused by the Flash 10.x
> plug-in." This only happens with the 9600 - DVI - ADC - 23 inch cinema
> combination. Any ideas what is going on here? I am guessing, but
> perhaps
> for some reason the Core Image hardware acceleration of the 9600
> (which the
> 9000 doesn't have) doesn't play well with Flash and ADC? I can't
> imagine
> why, but there it is.
>
> Finally, my second question, which may be moot, but: has anyone ever
> tried
> to somehow adapt the ADC connector of one of these G5 ADC cards to the
> ADC
> connector of an MDD? It seems to me that it could be done and could
> work.
> The ADC connector only has two leads, which supply power for the
> display,
> correct? It seems to me that you might be able to come up with some
> kind of
> franken-connector or jumper that would let you go straight ADC. Anyone
> know
> anything out there?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rob J.
>
>
>
> Peter Devlin <pdi...@mail.com <javascript:>> Dec 18 07:47PM
>
>> It seems to me that you might be able to come up with some kind of
>> franken-connector or jumper that would let you go straight ADC.
> Anyone know
>> anything out there?
>
> I've seen a G5 AGP Pro 8x card converted to work in a non pro G4 4x
> slot
> - not a pretty sight. But afaik the adc in the mdd has two connections
> in
> the agp slot - thus the taping of pins 3 and 11 on 8x cards which I
> believe
> in the mac slot supply power for the adc connection. In between the 4x
> agp
> mdd and the 8x agp G5 the layout of the slot was converted to agp pro
> design
> to keep adc - apple should have gone for dvi/vga at that point (had to
> eventually) but they have always liked to have their proprietary video
> connectors going way back...
>
> Pete
>
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