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Kirk, and the "Prime Directive" [message #27970] Sat, 08 December 2012 18:57 Go to next message
ToolPackinMama is currently offline  ToolPackinMama
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There's much good reason to believe that Kirk didn't and wouldn't
violate the Prime Directive.

Kirk critics can't show that Kirk ever actually did any PD harm. The
best they can do is say that harm might have been done, if things that
we were never shown had occurred - which they didn't.

Kirk critics can't show that Kirk was rebuked, or even questioned by
Starfleet, or by UFP representatives, about alleged PD violations that
Kirk supposedly committed.

Nobody has or can show that Kirk is the kind of guy that would break the
PD either casually, or inadvertently. All the evidence that exists shows
the opposite: that Kirk was concerned about not violating the PD, and he
disapproved of people who did.

Spock mildly questioned Kirk about the PD issue on very rare occasions
(for example, in The Apple), but his questions were apparently
satisfactorily answered, and that was the end of it.

Kirk several times shows active concern about not violating the Prime
Directive, and in fact this caused him some difficulties on more than
one occasion.

Starfleet thinks that Kirk is an exemplary Starfleet officer, not a
rules-breaking rebel.

There is no mention of any PD violations on Kirk's record. Period. That
in fact is verifiable, and in fact has been proven - since not one
example of such a stain on Kirk's record can be found, even by people
who would love to find one.

It's been shown that Kirk in fact generally respects the rules, and is
not casual about flouting the rules, nor the law.

Far from being a PD violator, Kirk in fact the one who is called in to
enforce the PD when other people break it.

It's been shown that all the so-called PD violations that Kirk was
alleged to be "guilty" of, were in fact not PD violations, except by
some measure that TOS Starfleet doesn't use. It has been shown that
Starfleet in the TOS universe interprets the PD very liberally, and Kirk
apparently was always held to be blameless by TOS Starfleet standards.

Even if the PD is interpreted and enforced differently in later Treks,
by the internal logic evident in Kirk's universe, he was obviously held
to be blameless. Therefore from now on when any misguided individual
asserts that Kirk violated the Prime Directive, the correct response is:
No, he did not. There is no ambiguity about it. That is not a matter of
interpretation, or opinion, it is verifiable. He simply didn't ever do it.
Re: Kirk, and the "Prime Directive" [message #27971 is a reply to message #27970] Sat, 08 December 2012 18:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ToolPackinMama is currently offline  ToolPackinMama
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The only time in TOS where Kirk did indeed disobey a direct order was in
Amok Time, when he decided it was worth the loss of his career to save
Spock's life.
Re: Kirk, and the "Prime Directive" [message #28000 is a reply to message #27971] Sun, 09 December 2012 05:14 Go to previous message
MITO MINISTER is currently offline  MITO MINISTER
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On Dec 9, 8:59 am, ToolPackinMama <philnbl...@comcast.net> wrote:
> The only time in TOS where Kirk did indeed disobey a direct order was in

> Amok Time, when he decided it was worth the loss of his career to save

> Spock's life.


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