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imac g5 help needed asap [message #27246] Tue, 04 December 2012 15:43 Go to next message
jayson skinner is currently offline  jayson skinner
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i just bought a used 2004 imac g5 desktop and i dont know what to do. hears
my problem. when i plug the power, keyboard and mouse in and press the
power button the screen will either start up with the chime but stay black.
you can kinda, almost not at all, hear something getting power to it. after
about a minute or so you can hear that the fans have started up and are at
full speed. the mouse will light up but the keyboard wont. idk what to do.
i just bought this from a friends friend that said it just needs an os for
it, but idk but any and all help will be greatly appriciated. thanks

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Re: imac g5 help needed asap [message #27247 is a reply to message #27246] Tue, 04 December 2012 16:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Dec 4, 2012, at 1:43 PM, jayson skinner <lilbit.skinner@gmail.com> wrote:

> i just bought a used 2004 imac g5 desktop and i dont know what to do. hears my problem. when i plug the power, keyboard and mouse in and press the power button the screen will either start up with the chime but stay black. you can kinda, almost not at all, hear something getting power to it. after about a minute or so you can hear that the fans have started up and are at full speed. the mouse will light up but the keyboard wont. idk what to do. i just bought this from a friends friend that said it just needs an os for it, but idk but any and all help will be greatly appriciated. thanks


The iMac G5's were built at the height of the Great Capacitor Plague <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague>.

From the symptoms you describe, some of the caps on the mobo are bad. Basically you need to unsolder a bunch of capacitors on the logic board and the power supply (since you've got it open) and replace them with new, good ones.

Fans going full blast mean the system hasn't booted up enough to engage the onboard temperature controllers which modulate the fans.

Search the archives of this list and the LEM imac list for references to part sets and such.

If the problem was just 'needed an OS' then a white screen with a flashing question mark would come up and the fans wouldn't be going full blast.

It's unlikely to be a bad LCD because the keyboard would light up and the fans would slow down.

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Re: imac g5 help needed asap [message #27248 is a reply to message #27246] Tue, 04 December 2012 16:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It should display something if it is looking for the OS on the HD but doesn't find it. I would recommend these steps:

http://support.apple.com/kb/ts2094

To start. This will help narrow down the culprit.

-Doc Jimbo

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On Dec 4, 2012, at 3:43 PM, jayson skinner <lilbit.skinner@gmail.com> wrote:

> i just bought a used 2004 imac g5 desktop and i dont know what to do. hears my problem. when i plug the power, keyboard and mouse in and press the power button the screen will either start up with the chime but stay black. you can kinda, almost not at all, hear something getting power to it. after about a minute or so you can hear that the fans have started up and are at full speed. the mouse will light up but the keyboard wont. idk what to do. i just bought this from a friends friend that said it just needs an os for it, but idk but any and all help will be greatly appriciated. thanks

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Re: imac g5 help needed asap [message #27249 is a reply to message #27247] Tue, 04 December 2012 16:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Dec 4, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

> From the symptoms you describe, some of the caps on the mobo are bad.


Agreed, bad caps.
You can visually check for "popped" caps on the motherboard. Here's
what popped caps look like:
<http://c.fixya.net/fixya20/uploads/Images/C2F85BA.jpg>

Here's disassembly instructions to get access:
< http://www.powerbookmedic.com/wordpress/2010/04/06/imac-g5-r epair-guide-teardown-released
>

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Re: imac g5 help needed asap [message #27417 is a reply to message #27246] Wed, 05 December 2012 19:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Den Tirsdag, 4/12 2012, 09:43, jayson skinner skrev:
> i just bought a used 2004 imac g5 desktop and i dont know what to do.

> hears

> my problem. when i plug the power, keyboard and mouse in and press the

> power button the screen will either start up with the chime but stay

> black.

> you can kinda, almost not at all, hear something getting power to it.

> after

> about a minute or so you can hear that the fans have started up and are at

> full speed. the mouse will light up but the keyboard wont. idk what to do.

> i just bought this from a friends friend that said it just needs an os for

> it, but idk but any and all help will be greatly appriciated. thanks


FWIW ?

i had one behave exactly like this when I tried to boot it from a cd, and
with no memory and harddrive installed

good luck

/tina

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Re: imac g5 help needed asap [message #27418 is a reply to message #27417] Wed, 05 December 2012 20:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Den Torsdag, 6/12 2012, 01:57, tina@nehaia.dk skrev:
> Den Tirsdag, 4/12 2012, 09:43, jayson skinner skrev:

>> i just bought a used 2004 imac g5 desktop and i dont know what to do.

>> hears

>> my problem. when i plug the power, keyboard and mouse in and press the

>> power button the screen will either start up with the chime but stay

>> black.

>> you can kinda, almost not at all, hear something getting power to it.

>> after

>> about a minute or so you can hear that the fans have started up and are

>> at

>> full speed. the mouse will light up but the keyboard wont. idk what to

>> do.

>> i just bought this from a friends friend that said it just needs an os

>> for

>> it, but idk but any and all help will be greatly appriciated. thanks

>

> FWIW ?

>

> i had one behave exactly like this when I tried to boot it from a cd, and

> with no memory and harddrive installed

>

> good luck

>

> /tina


correstion: tried to boot from a dvd

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Re: imac g5 help needed asap [message #27419 is a reply to message #27417] Wed, 05 December 2012 20:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Il giorno 06/12/12 01:57, tina@nehaia.dk ha scritto:

> i had one behave exactly like this when I tried to boot it from a cd, and

> with no memory and harddrive installed


AFAIK, with no memory the Mac should "beep" one time
(see http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1547 )
and do not chime (like the OP's Mac did).

BTW, did you think your Mac could boot without memory? :-)


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Re: imac g5 help needed asap [message #27420 is a reply to message #27418] Wed, 05 December 2012 20:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Dec 5, 2012, at 7:03 PM, tina@nehaia.dk wrote:

>> i had one behave exactly like this when I tried to boot it from a

>> cd, and

>> with no memory and harddrive installed.


No, your memory must be wrong. He said it "chimed" when he pressed the
power button, the chime is the audio confirmation of the system self-
check and this means that there's RAM installed that has checked out
"OK". If there was no RAM, you'd hear an error "beep" sequence instead
of the chime.

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Re: imac g5 help needed asap [message #27539 is a reply to message #27419] Fri, 07 December 2012 04:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Den Torsdag, 6/12 2012, 02:05, Valter Prahlad skrev:
> Il giorno 06/12/12 01:57, tina@nehaia.dk ha scritto:

>

>> i had one behave exactly like this when I tried to boot it from a cd,

>> and

>> with no memory and harddrive installed

>

> AFAIK, with no memory the Mac should "beep" one time

> (see http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1547 )

> and do not chime (like the OP's Mac did).

>

> BTW, did you think your Mac could boot without memory? :-)

>


he-he, no I didn't think so - I didn't know

I got it for free with the message that the power supply was dead and the
harddrive was pulled

so, after replacing the power supply, I obviously thought I could boot it
from a system dvd

sorry, I can't remember if there were beeps or chimes, but the fans came
on full speed and scared the s... out of me

/tina

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Re: imac g5 help needed asap [message #27916 is a reply to message #27539] Sat, 08 December 2012 03:00 Go to previous message
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On Friday, December 7, 2012 2:54:55 AM UTC-7, Tina Holm wrote:
>

> Den Torsdag, 6/12 2012, 02:05, Valter Prahlad skrev:

>> Il giorno 06/12/12 01:57, ti...@nehaia.dk <javascript:> ha scritto:

>>

>>> i had one behave exactly like this when I tried to boot it from a cd,

>>> and

>>> with no memory and harddrive installed

>>

>> AFAIK, with no memory the Mac should "beep" one time

>> (see http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1547 )

>> and do not chime (like the OP's Mac did).

>>

>> BTW, did you think your Mac could boot without memory? :-)

>>

>

> he-he, no I didn't think so - I didn't know

>

> I got it for free with the message that the power supply was dead and the

> harddrive was pulled

>

> so, after replacing the power supply, I obviously thought I could boot it

> from a system dvd

>

> sorry, I can't remember if there were beeps or chimes, but the fans came

> on full speed and scared the s... out of me

>

> /tina

>

>

Check the Capacitors as suggested above. Once you get a display you work on
getting an OS installed if you have a HDD installed.

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