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| Re: Telemedicine forecast by "The Jetsons" (1962) [message #412433 is a reply to message #412414] |
Sat, 20 November 2021 14:08   |
Charlie Gibbs
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On 2021-11-20, J Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
> I remember a tech at Burroughs arguing vehemently that there would
> never be a market for flat screens, anything you could do with a flat
> screen (according to him) you could do with a CRT. He also was dead
> certain that no micro would ever be faster than Illiac IV.
"If we don't have it, you don't need it."
> The "walls" in Fahrenheit 451 are actually within the means of
> middle-class wage earners today, if they don't mind lines between
> the panels.
Even the lines are easier to take if they're narrow and the
display is adjusted to allow for the gaps. Otherwise diagonal
lines that cross panels have a disturbing break in them:
..--------------------. .--------------------.
| \ \ \ | |\ \ |
| \ \ \ | | \ \ |
| \ \ \| | \ \ |
| \ \ | |\ \ \ |
| \ \ | | \ \ \ |
| \ \| | \ \ \ |
`--------------------' `--------------------'
Our local bank has a multi-panel display like this,
and frequently runs text across them. It looks horrible.
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| Re: Telemedicine forecast by "The Jetsons" (1962) [message #412677 is a reply to message #412669] |
Fri, 10 December 2021 18:41 |
Charlie Gibbs
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On 2021-12-10, Jan van den Broek <fortytwo@xs4all.nl> wrote:
> Thu, 18 Nov 2021 07:05:14 GMT
> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> schrieb:
>
> [Schnipp]
>
>> Indeed. Also, the Q key is missing from the keyboard.
>
> We once had a program with a self-designed onscreen keyboard,
> only after two years an user noticed we had forgotten the '8'.
I saw a close friend of mine the other day. He said,
"Stephen, why haven't you called me?" I said, "I can't
call everyone I want. My new phone has no five on it."
He said, "How long have you had it?" I said, "I don't
know, my calendar has no sevens on it."
-- Stephen Wright
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| Re: Telemedicine forecast by "The Jetsons" (1962) [message #412680 is a reply to message #412677] |
Sat, 11 December 2021 04:18 |
Harry Vaderchi
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On Fri, 10 Dec 2021 23:41:33 GMT
Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
> On 2021-12-10, Jan van den Broek <fortytwo@xs4all.nl> wrote:
>
>> Thu, 18 Nov 2021 07:05:14 GMT
>> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> schrieb:
>>
>> [Schnipp]
>>
>>> Indeed. Also, the Q key is missing from the keyboard.
>>
>> We once had a program with a self-designed onscreen keyboard,
>> only after two years an user noticed we had forgotten the '8'.
>
> I saw a close friend of mine the other day. He said,
> "Stephen, why haven't you called me?" I said, "I can't
> call everyone I want. My new phone has no five on it."
> He said, "How long have you had it?" I said, "I don't
> know, my calendar has no sevens on it."
> -- Stephen Wright
I have a(n) eeepc small portable; the keyboard on that fails to acknowledge several keys at the top LHS;
if I'm editing a program I have to look around (I can't use the search feature!) to find a '0' or ')' && CnP it!
I wouldn't use it for online banking anyway
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Bah, and indeed Humbug.
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| Re: Telemedicine forecast by "The Jetsons" (1962) [message #412687 is a reply to message #412685] |
Sat, 11 December 2021 16:07 |
Harry Vaderchi
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On Sat, 11 Dec 2021 09:27:14 -0500
J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 11 Dec 2021 13:34:07 GMT, Niklas Karlsson
> <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2021-12-11, Kerr-Mudd, John <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 11 Dec 2021 06:39:04 -0600
>>> JAB <here@is.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 11 Dec 2021 09:18:27 +0000, "Kerr-Mudd, John"
>>>> <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > the keyboard on that fails to acknowledge several keys at the top
>>>>
>>>> Using the Character Map
>>>>
>>>> Character Map is a program built into Microsoft Windows that enables
>>>> you to view the characters that are available in a selected font.
>>>>
>>>> < https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/insert-ascii-or-un icode-latin-based-symbols-and-characters-d13f58d3-7bcb-44a7- a4d5-972ee12e50e0#bmcharactermap>
>>>>
>>>> < https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/insert-ascii-or-un icode-latin-based-symbols-and-characters-d13f58d3-7bcb-44a7- a4d5-972ee12e50e0>
>>>>
>>> Ta for the egg-sucking lesson, but charmap isn't very usable under Linux!
>>
>> There are equivalents for Linux.
>>
>> https://superuser.com/questions/450058/character-map-in-linu x
>
> Might be easier to pop up an on-screen keyboard if one is available in
> his flavor.
OK, thanks for the suggestions; I only use it for fullscreen small asm program development, so whilst lack of some keys is a bit of a pain, it's easiest just to have some of the chars scattered within the current program.
Sorry I was a bit shirty about it.
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| Re: Telemedicine forecast by "The Jetsons" (1962) [message #412689 is a reply to message #412687] |
Sat, 11 December 2021 17:37 |
Peter Flass
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Kerr-Mudd, John <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Dec 2021 09:27:14 -0500
> J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 11 Dec 2021 13:34:07 GMT, Niklas Karlsson
>> <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2021-12-11, Kerr-Mudd, John <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 11 Dec 2021 06:39:04 -0600
>>>> JAB <here@is.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > On Sat, 11 Dec 2021 09:18:27 +0000, "Kerr-Mudd, John"
>>>> > <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> the keyboard on that fails to acknowledge several keys at the top
>>>> >
>>>> > Using the Character Map
>>>> >
>>>> > Character Map is a program built into Microsoft Windows that enables
>>>> > you to view the characters that are available in a selected font.
>>>> >
>>>> > < https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/insert-ascii-or-un icode-latin-based-symbols-and-characters-d13f58d3-7bcb-44a7- a4d5-972ee12e50e0#bmcharactermap>
>>>> >
>>>> > < https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/insert-ascii-or-un icode-latin-based-symbols-and-characters-d13f58d3-7bcb-44a7- a4d5-972ee12e50e0>
>>>> >
>>>> Ta for the egg-sucking lesson, but charmap isn't very usable under Linux!
>>>
>>> There are equivalents for Linux.
>>>
>>> https://superuser.com/questions/450058/character-map-in-linu x
>>
>> Might be easier to pop up an on-screen keyboard if one is available in
>> his flavor.
>
> OK, thanks for the suggestions; I only use it for fullscreen small asm
> program development, so whilst lack of some keys is a bit of a pain, it's
> easiest just to have some of the chars scattered within the current program.
> Sorry I was a bit shirty about it.
>
I used to use the the ALT/keypad on OS/2 to enter the hex code for the
character. I think I had most of the frequently used characters memorized.
I don’t know if it works on Linux, but something like “ALT/123” is a lot
quicker than messing around with GUI stuff if you don’t need it.
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| Re: Telemedicine forecast by "The Jetsons" (1962) [message #412690 is a reply to message #412689] |
Sat, 11 December 2021 17:39 |
Peter Flass
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Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Kerr-Mudd, John <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>> On Sat, 11 Dec 2021 09:27:14 -0500
>> J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11 Dec 2021 13:34:07 GMT, Niklas Karlsson
>>> <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2021-12-11, Kerr-Mudd, John <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>>> > On Sat, 11 Dec 2021 06:39:04 -0600
>>>> > JAB <here@is.invalid> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> On Sat, 11 Dec 2021 09:18:27 +0000, "Kerr-Mudd, John"
>>>> >> <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> the keyboard on that fails to acknowledge several keys at the top
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Using the Character Map
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Character Map is a program built into Microsoft Windows that enables
>>>> >> you to view the characters that are available in a selected font.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> < https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/insert-ascii-or-un icode-latin-based-symbols-and-characters-d13f58d3-7bcb-44a7- a4d5-972ee12e50e0#bmcharactermap>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> < https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/insert-ascii-or-un icode-latin-based-symbols-and-characters-d13f58d3-7bcb-44a7- a4d5-972ee12e50e0>
>>>> >>
>>>> > Ta for the egg-sucking lesson, but charmap isn't very usable under Linux!
>>>>
>>>> There are equivalents for Linux.
>>>>
>>>> https://superuser.com/questions/450058/character-map-in-linu x
>>>
>>> Might be easier to pop up an on-screen keyboard if one is available in
>>> his flavor.
>>
>> OK, thanks for the suggestions; I only use it for fullscreen small asm
>> program development, so whilst lack of some keys is a bit of a pain, it's
>> easiest just to have some of the chars scattered within the current program.
>> Sorry I was a bit shirty about it.
>>
>
> I used to use the the ALT/keypad on OS/2 to enter the hex code for the
> character. I think I had most of the frequently used characters memorized.
> I don’t know if it works on Linux, but something like “ALT/123” is a lot
> quicker than messing around with GUI stuff if you don’t need it.
>
Another possibility would be to redefine the keystrokes in X, or define
macros for your editor.
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| Re: Telemedicine forecast by "The Jetsons" (1962) [message #412694 is a reply to message #412690] |
Sun, 12 December 2021 00:56 |
Charlie Gibbs
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On 2021-12-11, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Kerr-Mudd, John <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 11 Dec 2021 09:27:14 -0500
>>> J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11 Dec 2021 13:34:07 GMT, Niklas Karlsson
>>>> <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > On 2021-12-11, Kerr-Mudd, John <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> On Sat, 11 Dec 2021 06:39:04 -0600
>>>> >> JAB <here@is.invalid> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> On Sat, 11 Dec 2021 09:18:27 +0000, "Kerr-Mudd, John"
>>>> >>> <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> the keyboard on that fails to acknowledge several keys at the top
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Using the Character Map
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Character Map is a program built into Microsoft Windows that enables
>>>> >>> you to view the characters that are available in a selected font.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> < https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/insert-ascii-or-un icode-latin-based-symbols-and-characters-d13f58d3-7bcb-44a7- a4d5-972ee12e50e0#bmcharactermap>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> < https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/insert-ascii-or-un icode-latin-based-symbols-and-characters-d13f58d3-7bcb-44a7- a4d5-972ee12e50e0>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Ta for the egg-sucking lesson, but charmap isn't very usable under Linux!
>>>> >
>>>> > There are equivalents for Linux.
>>>> >
>>>> > https://superuser.com/questions/450058/character-map-in-linu x
>>>>
>>>> Might be easier to pop up an on-screen keyboard if one is available in
>>>> his flavor.
>>>
>>> OK, thanks for the suggestions; I only use it for fullscreen small asm
>>> program development, so whilst lack of some keys is a bit of a pain, it's
>>> easiest just to have some of the chars scattered within the current program.
>>> Sorry I was a bit shirty about it.
>>
>> I used to use the the ALT/keypad on OS/2 to enter the hex code for the
>> character. I think I had most of the frequently used characters memorized.
>> I don’t know if it works on Linux, but something like “ALT/123” is a lot
>> quicker than messing around with GUI stuff if you don’t need it.
>
> Another possibility would be to redefine the keystrokes in X, or define
> macros for your editor.
I don't need a lot of special characters, so for me it's just as easy
to bring the file up in a GUI text editor, then open a browser and go
to https://www.w3schools.com/charsets/ref_html_utf8.asp. On that page
I can find any UTF-8 character I need, and I just copy and paste the
desired character(s) into my document.
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\ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | Apple is a cult.
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