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geoPublish file "contents" [message #411847] Tue, 12 October 2021 19:31 Go to next message
Glenn Holmer is currently offline  Glenn Holmer
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I recently acquired Dale Sidebottom's CMD Zip drive (a modified CMD-HD
with a Zip Drive inside) from Jim Peters, and I'm trying to make sense
of the contents of about a dozen 100M Zip disks. Much of what's on them
appears to be geoPublish files, but in many cases, multiple projects are
all smooshed together on 16M native partitions (I'm guessing these may
have been backup disks rather than production disks). I've tried to view
some of the geoPublish files, but get the dreaded "disk full, please
move files", even in cases where the native partition has megabytes of
free space. And since there are numerous native partition subdirectories
with slashes in the filename, the only way I could even view this stuff
is in Wheels (which I hate using)... but at least it has support for
native partitions.

I don't want to alter the contents of these Zip disks anyway, so I'd
like to try and tease apart these projects by copying them to 1581 disk
images. The problem with that is that I don't know what the dependent
files for each geoPublish file are (geoWrite files, fonts, &c.). Does
anyone know of a utility that will list the "contents" of a geoPublish
file? I don't mean something like Retriever or Unpublish; I just want to
know which files I need to copy off the Zip disk to get a working
geoPublish file.

And as a solution of last resort... was the geoPublish file format ever
reverse-engineered? If so, I may be able to add support for this to my
Java disk image library.

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Re: geoPublish file "contents" [message #411858 is a reply to message #411847] Wed, 13 October 2021 12:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bruce Thomas is currently offline  Bruce Thomas
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Hi Glenn,

I'll have to think a bit about tools but have you tried viewing by Date.
That may help you determine which files belong together since the
publications Dale created were issued Monthly and the HD should have
kept Dale's GEOS/Wheels system set to the correct time/date.

Ahh, there it is. GetItWrite 2.0 by Joseph Thomas. It lets you pick a
geoPub file and provides a list of the geoWrite files that have been
imported into it. You can even rename the geoWrite files.

I have no knowledge of the geoPub file format being reverse engineered.

Is Todd Elliott still kicking around? With the work he did to create geoPub
1.1

Having a look at the code in GetItWrite may also shed some light on the
geoPub file format.

GetItWrite V2.0 can be found, hmmmm, not on the geoSpecific CD.

Where did I get that from?

Ahh, it's on Bo's site. -
http://www.zimmers.net/anonftp/pub/cbm/geos/ALLFILES.html

GetItWrite.cvt
< http://www.zimmers.net/anonftp/pub/cbm/geos/util/file/GetItW rite.cvt>
GetItWrite.doc.cvt
< http://www.zimmers.net/anonftp/pub/cbm/geos/util/file/GetItW rite.doc.cvt>Pub
Aid V1.0 by Joseph Thomas. Lists and allows renaming of geoWrite files that
are imported by a geoPub file. The documentation is in geoWrite V2.1 format.

Bruce

On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 5:31 PM Glenn Holmer <cenbe@kolabnow.com> wrote:

> I recently acquired Dale Sidebottom's CMD Zip drive (a modified CMD-HD
> with a Zip Drive inside) from Jim Peters, and I'm trying to make sense
> of the contents of about a dozen 100M Zip disks. Much of what's on them
> appears to be geoPublish files, but in many cases, multiple projects are
> all smooshed together on 16M native partitions (I'm guessing these may
> have been backup disks rather than production disks). I've tried to view
> some of the geoPublish files, but get the dreaded "disk full, please
> move files", even in cases where the native partition has megabytes of
> free space. And since there are numerous native partition subdirectories
> with slashes in the filename, the only way I could even view this stuff
> is in Wheels (which I hate using)... but at least it has support for
> native partitions.
>
> I don't want to alter the contents of these Zip disks anyway, so I'd
> like to try and tease apart these projects by copying them to 1581 disk
> images. The problem with that is that I don't know what the dependent
> files for each geoPublish file are (geoWrite files, fonts, &c.). Does
> anyone know of a utility that will list the "contents" of a geoPublish
> file? I don't mean something like Retriever or Unpublish; I just want to
> know which files I need to copy off the Zip disk to get a working
> geoPublish file.
>
> And as a solution of last resort... was the geoPublish file format ever
> reverse-engineered? If so, I may be able to add support for this to my
> Java disk image library.
>
> --
> Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682)
> "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and
> Cenbe."-----------------------------------------------------
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Re: geoPublish file "contents" [message #411862 is a reply to message #411858] Wed, 13 October 2021 13:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
xy3951 is currently offline  xy3951
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Gateway would be another option to use native partitions. While I don't hate wheels, there are times where certain apps work with Gateway and don't in Wheels. A good example that comes to mind is GeoBeep. Also I have found, in general, Gateway is faster. But I admit, it is not as easy to switch from say 1581 partitions to native in Gateway. The best way I think in your case is to make boot disk for Gateway and have the HD as drive 9/B With 8/a booting from whatever device you prefer (41,81,Ramlink, etc). The other way is once in Gateway, swap the HD A or B, then double click the native HD driver if you booted with the HD1581 partitions (the driver doesn't have to be on your bootdisk but that is the easiest way). It will then grab the first Native partition from the HD and allow you to switch between partitions from the Gateway menu. The only downside is Gateway will often put a GWINFO file on any GEOS disk it uses. Usually though this is when you make certain altera
tions to the disk such as preferences, or moving files around on the disk (but not always). BUT it shouldn't if you press the write protect button on the HD, which I would do before booting Gateway.

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> On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 5:31 PM Glenn Holmer wrote:
>
>> I recently acquired Dale Sidebottom's CMD Zip drive (a modified CMD-HD
>> with a Zip Drive inside) from Jim Peters, and I'm trying to make sense
>> of the contents of about a dozen 100M Zip disks. Much of what's on them
>> appears to be geoPublish files, but in many cases, multiple projects are
>> all smooshed together on 16M native partitions (I'm guessing these may
>> have been backup disks rather than production disks). I've tried to view
>> some of the geoPublish files, but get the dreaded "disk full, please
>> move files", even in cases where the native partition has megabytes of
>> free space. And since there are numerous native partition subdirectories
>> with slashes in the filename, the only way I could even view this stuff
>> is in Wheels (which I hate using)... but at least it has support for
>> native partitions.
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Re: geoPublish file 'contents' [message #411867 is a reply to message #411858] Wed, 13 October 2021 21:18 Go to previous message
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On Wed, October 13, 2021 9:08 am, Bruce Thomas wrote:

> Is Todd Elliott still kicking around? With the work he did to create
> geoPub 1.1

Todd is on the Commodore 64/128 group on Facebook.

Truly,
Robert Bernardo
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http://www.dickestel.com/fcug.htm
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