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AppleWin 1.30.0 and supported Windows versions [message #407373] Mon, 19 April 2021 16:43 Go to next message
TomCh is currently offline  TomCh
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I've released a new AppleWin 1.30.0 here:
https://github.com/AppleWin/AppleWin/releases/tag/v1.30.0.0(try2)

There's nothing hugely significant feature-wise in this release (although it rolls up a fair chunk of internal refactoring work). But from a supported-OS point of view, I've built it with a platform toolset that now only supports Windows XP and above.

NB. I'm not testing against Win XP (only Win7-64 and Win10).

I anticipate that I'll jump Windows OS again at the end of this year to limit support to just Windows 7 and above.

The legacy 1.29.x versions are still available at https://github.com/AppleWin/AppleWin, for anyone needing them for older OS's (but obviously won't continue to be maintained).

Tom
Re: AppleWin 1.30.0 and supported Windows versions [message #407402 is a reply to message #407373] Tue, 20 April 2021 15:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: johnsonlam.hk

On Tuesday, April 20, 2021 at 4:43:04 AM UTC+8, TomCh wrote:
> I've released a new AppleWin 1.30.0 here:
> https://github.com/AppleWin/AppleWin/releases/tag/v1.30.0.0(try2)
>
> There's nothing hugely significant feature-wise in this release (although it rolls up a fair chunk of internal refactoring work). But from a supported-OS point of view, I've built it with a platform toolset that now only supports Windows XP and above.
>
> NB. I'm not testing against Win XP (only Win7-64 and Win10).
>
> I anticipate that I'll jump Windows OS again at the end of this year to limit support to just Windows 7 and above.
>
> The legacy 1.29.x versions are still available at https://github.com/AppleWin/AppleWin, for anyone needing them for older OS's (but obviously won't continue to be maintained).
>
> Tom

Glad to see new version!
Re: AppleWin 1.30.0 and supported Windows versions [message #408188 is a reply to message #407373] Thu, 13 May 2021 12:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Willi Kusche is currently offline  Willi Kusche
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On Monday, April 19, 2021 at 4:43:04 PM UTC-4, Tom wrote:
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> NB. I'm not testing against Win XP (only Win7-64 and Win10).
<--- snip --->

I'll give it some exercise on my XP system.

Willi
Re: AppleWin 1.30.0 and supported Windows versions [message #408574 is a reply to message #407373] Mon, 31 May 2021 18:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Willi Kusche is currently offline  Willi Kusche
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Hi!

I was able to use the new version a couple of times in spite of a warning about a missing "vcruntime140.dll".
Today I decided to get rid of the message. Progress, but then I got a message about a missing "api-ms-win-crt-runtime...". Got rid of that problem but now another problem. I didn't write down the text of the message but i'm hoping a reboot will fix the problem. I'm composing this message now because I need something to do while the reboot proceeds.

Willi
Re: AppleWin 1.30.0 and supported Windows versions [message #408588 is a reply to message #407373] Tue, 01 June 2021 13:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi!

The message is "...entry point ucrtbase.terminate could not be located in the dynamic link library api-ms-win...". But, the new AppleWin is working OK for the testing I'm doing.

Willi
Re: AppleWin 1.30.0 and supported Windows versions [message #408629 is a reply to message #408574] Wed, 02 June 2021 18:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: fadden

On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 3:30:28 PM UTC-7, A2CPM wrote:
> I was able to use the new version a couple of times in spite of a warning about a missing "vcruntime140.dll".

Visual C++ runtime, one of the libraries in the "redistributable" collection.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/the-latest-support ed-visual-c-downloads-2647da03-1eea-4433-9aff-95f26a218cc0

You generally have the choice of static linking (making it part of the binary) or dynamic. CiderPress links it dynamically, so I actually include the DLL in the distribution. The previous version of CiderPress used the 2013 toolset for WinXP compatibility, which used msvcr120.dll instead. Maybe something similar needs to be updated in AppleWin?

api-ms-win-crt-runtime-l1-1-0.dll seems to live in \Windows\System32\downlevel\ on Win10.
Re: AppleWin 1.30.0 and supported Windows versions [message #408634 is a reply to message #408588] Wed, 02 June 2021 23:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Wednesday, June 2, 2021 at 3:56:46 AM UTC+10, A2CPM wrote:
> The message is "...entry point ucrtbase.terminate could not be located in the dynamic link library api-ms-win...". But, the new AppleWin is working OK for the testing I'm doing.

Hi Willi.

The vcruntime140.dll issue is being tracked here:
https://github.com/AppleWin/AppleWin/issues/962

AppleWin statically links the VC runtime, but for foreign keyboard support it now uses FilterHook.dll which can't statically link the runtime. Modern VC tool chains use a "universal" runtime which comes with Windows. But to retain XP compatibility AppleWin is currently built using an older tool chain which in this case uses the VC 14 runtime (for VS 2015, 2017, 2019).

We will see if that DLL functionality can be merged into AppleWin itself, which should solve the problem.

As for the "ucrtbase" problem, that's a little unexpected. It might be the universal runtime which XP won't have. You could possibly extract the DLL from one of the installers at the following website.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/update-for-univers al-c-runtime-in-windows-c0514201-7fe6-95a3-b0a5-287930f3560c

Anyway, I'll add this problem to the GitHub issue above, and look into it later.

Cheers,
Nick.
Re: AppleWin 1.30.0 and supported Windows versions [message #408815 is a reply to message #408629] Wed, 09 June 2021 02:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Willi Kusche is currently offline  Willi Kusche
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Hi, y;all!

I timed a ProDOS assembly that generates a 475K listing file. AppleWin versions 1_21_1 and 1_25_0_4: 7 seconds. Versions 1_28_0_6 and 1_30_0: 13 minutes. Yes, emulated CPU speed was set at maximum for all runs. Not complaining, I thought the times were interesting.

Willi
Re: AppleWin 1.30.0 and supported Windows versions [message #408851 is a reply to message #408815] Thu, 10 June 2021 23:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi, y;all!

AHA!!! AppleWin 1.30.0, for some reason to be determined, is generating tons of bit maps.

Willi
Re: AppleWin 1.30.0 and supported Windows versions [message #408863 is a reply to message #408815] Fri, 11 June 2021 12:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Wednesday, 9 June 2021 at 07:12:32 UTC+1, A2CPM wrote:
> I timed a ProDOS assembly that generates a 475K listing file. AppleWin versions 1_21_1 and 1_25_0_4: 7 seconds. Versions 1_28_0_6 and 1_30_0: 13 minutes. Yes, emulated CPU speed was set at maximum for all runs. Not complaining, I thought the times were interesting.

Hi Willi - if you can make a repro available - eg. create a GitHub issue (here: https://github.com/AppleWin/AppleWin/issues) and then attach a zip of your .dsk image/s, that'd be great, and I could take a look.

Tom
Re: AppleWin 1.30.0 and supported Windows versions [message #408864 is a reply to message #408851] Fri, 11 June 2021 12:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Willi,

> AHA!!! AppleWin 1.30.0, for some reason to be determined, is generating tons of bit maps.

Sounds very odd! Do you mean lots of screenshots? As if someone is pressing the PrintScreen key?

Tom
Re: AppleWin 1.30.0 and supported Windows versions [message #408879 is a reply to message #408864] Sat, 12 June 2021 04:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Willi Kusche is currently offline  Willi Kusche
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On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 12:18:19 PM UTC-4, TomCh wrote:
>> AHA!!! AppleWin 1.30.0, for some reason to be determined, is generating tons of bit maps.
> Sounds very odd! Do you mean lots of screenshots? As if someone is pressing the PrintScreen key?

Yes. Version 1_28_0_6 also runs slowly so I assume the same thing happens w/ that version. Nothing resting on the keyboard for all four runs.

Willi
Re: AppleWin 1.30.0 and supported Windows versions [message #408904 is a reply to message #408879] Sun, 13 June 2021 12:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TomCh is currently offline  TomCh
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>>> AHA!!! AppleWin 1.30.0, for some reason to be determined, is generating tons of bit maps.
>> Sounds very odd! Do you mean lots of screenshots? As if someone is pressing the PrintScreen key?
> Yes. Version 1_28_0_6 also runs slowly so I assume the same thing happens w/ that version. Nothing resting on the keyboard for all four runs.
>

Are you able to narrow this issue down to the *specific AppleWin version* where this problem started happening for you?

Tom
Re: AppleWin 1.30.0 and supported Windows versions [message #408914 is a reply to message #408904] Sun, 13 June 2021 17:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Willi Kusche is currently offline  Willi Kusche
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On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 12:12:50 PM UTC-4, TomCh wrote:
> Are you able to narrow this issue down to the *specific AppleWin version* where this problem started happening for you?

I have many versions of AppleWin installed on my XP system. The last four are versions 1_21_1, 1_25_0_4: 7, 1_28_0_6 and 1_30_0. With the first two versions listed the the assembly runs in 7 seconds. With the latter two it takes minutes. The XP system is no longer connected to the I'net so transferring files out of it will require the use of sneakernet.

Willi
Re: AppleWin 1.30.0 and supported Windows versions [message #408919 is a reply to message #408914] Sun, 13 June 2021 21:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I now have a 13 MB '.ZIP' file containing two '.HDV' image files that will allow you to run the assembly yourself. Where do I send the '.ZIP' file?

Willi
Re: AppleWin 1.30.0 and supported Windows versions [message #408971 is a reply to message #408919] Tue, 15 June 2021 04:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Monday, 14 June 2021 at 02:59:10 UTC+1, A2CPM wrote:
> I now have a 13 MB '.ZIP' file containing two '.HDV' image files that will allow you to run the assembly yourself. Where do I send the '.ZIP' file?

If you have a GitHub account then you can attach the zip directly to this issue here:
https://github.com/AppleWin/AppleWin/issues/966

if you don't have an account (or don't want to create one) then perhaps you have a Dropbox or Google Drive account that you can upload to?

Thanks,
Tom
Re: AppleWin 1.30.0 and supported Windows versions [message #409058 is a reply to message #408971] Thu, 17 June 2021 08:33 Go to previous message
Willi Kusche is currently offline  Willi Kusche
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On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 4:03:32 AM UTC-4, Tom wrote:
> If you have a GitHub account then you can attach the zip directly to this issue here:
> https://github.com/AppleWin/AppleWin/issues/966

File attached.

Willi
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