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Re: life in Switzerland, Too much for one lifetime? :-) [message #404800] Tue, 26 January 2021 23:27 Go to next message
John Levine is currently offline  John Levine
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In article <87bldbcamo.fsf@usenet.ankman.de>,
Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:
> No. My mistake mentioning Switzerland. Although I don't know if they can
> withstand a "real" country surrounding them once Europe becomes one
> country, making them an enclave.

They have a web of treaties with the EU, including being part of the
Schengen free travel zone. They'll be fine.

> Funny btw. that there is one German town completely surrounded by
> Switzerland called Büsingen

Campione d'Italia is an Italian exclave within Switzerland. It was part
of the Swiss customs territory until a year ago when it was switched to
Italy against the wishes of the residents.

> I suppose written German German and Austrian German is the same. Swiss
> German uses "ss" instead of "ß" in Germany. Thus there are only slight
> differences in documents. But speaking and understanding is an entirely
> different thing: People from northern Germany might have problems
> understanding Swiss people. But they already have problems understanding
> people from Bavaria, which is in Germany.

Formal Austrian and German German are pretty close. I gather than everyone
learns formal Hochdeutsch in school, which they can use to talk to people
with otherwise impenetrable dialects.

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Re: life in Switzerland, Too much for one lifetime? :-) [message #404803 is a reply to message #404800] Wed, 27 January 2021 01:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Thomas Koenig

John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> schrieb:
> In article <87bldbcamo.fsf@usenet.ankman.de>,
> Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:
>> No. My mistake mentioning Switzerland. Although I don't know if they can
>> withstand a "real" country surrounding them once Europe becomes one
>> country, making them an enclave.
>
> They have a web of treaties with the EU, including being part of the
> Schengen free travel zone. They'll be fine.

Some people in Switzerland have been looking at the Brexit treaty,
and find some things in there quite attractive:

https://www.nzz.ch/meinung/hat-boris-johnson-besser-verhande lt-wo-der-brexit-vertrag-der-schweiz-helfen-kann-und-wo-nich t-ld.1597492
Re: life in Switzerland, Too much for one lifetime? :-) [message #404838 is a reply to message #404803] Wed, 27 January 2021 13:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
scott is currently offline  scott
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Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> writes:
> John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> schrieb:
>> In article <87bldbcamo.fsf@usenet.ankman.de>,
>> Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:
>>> No. My mistake mentioning Switzerland. Although I don't know if they can
>>> withstand a "real" country surrounding them once Europe becomes one
>>> country, making them an enclave.
>>
>> They have a web of treaties with the EU, including being part of the
>> Schengen free travel zone. They'll be fine.
>
> Some people in Switzerland have been looking at the Brexit treaty,
> and find some things in there quite attractive:
>
> https://www.nzz.ch/meinung/hat-boris-johnson-besser-verhande lt-wo-der-brexit-vertrag-der-schweiz-helfen-kann-und-wo-nich t-ld.1597492


Perhaps they ought to wait around a couple of years to see just how
bad things look like they're going to get in the UK.
Re: life in Switzerland, Too much for one lifetime? :-) [message #405060 is a reply to message #404838] Mon, 01 February 2021 09:00 Go to previous message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: Juergen Nieveler

scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote:

>> Some people in Switzerland have been looking at the Brexit treaty,
>> and find some things in there quite attractive:
>>
>> https://www.nzz.ch/meinung/hat-boris-johnson-besser-verhande lt-wo-der-b
>> rexit-vertrag-der-schweiz-helfen-kann-und-wo-nicht-ld.159749 2
>
>
> Perhaps they ought to wait around a couple of years to see just how
> bad things look like they're going to get in the UK.

Well, they don't have much of a fishing industry to screw over, so
that's
already a competitive advantage.
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