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Food for thought? [message #399667] Wed, 09 September 2020 09:54 Go to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: gareth evans

My first home PC, in 1987, was an Amstrad 1512 with
two 5" floppy disks.

The second home PC, 1992, was a Viglen with a 40MB HD.

40MB ? ? ?

.... I just decided to delete the history from
Microsoft Edge and was warned that there were
327 MB of data associated!
Re: Food for thought? [message #399670 is a reply to message #399667] Wed, 09 September 2020 10:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: Thomas Koenig

gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> schrieb:
> My first home PC, in 1987, was an Amstrad 1512 with
> two 5" floppy disks.
>
> The second home PC, 1992, was a Viglen with a 40MB HD.
>
> 40MB ? ? ?
>
> ... I just decided to delete the history from
> Microsoft Edge and was warned that there were
> 327 MB of data associated!

Bloat, bloat and even more bloat.

Systems aren't going to get that much faster anymore.
Maybe people will actually learn again how to make good use of
computer resources (one can hope...)
Re: Food for thought? [message #399678 is a reply to message #399670] Wed, 09 September 2020 13:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Charlie Gibbs is currently offline  Charlie Gibbs
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On 2020-09-09, Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote:

> gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> schrieb:
>
>> My first home PC, in 1987, was an Amstrad 1512 with
>> two 5" floppy disks.
>>
>> The second home PC, 1992, was a Viglen with a 40MB HD.
>>
>> 40MB ? ? ?
>>
>> ... I just decided to delete the history from
>> Microsoft Edge and was warned that there were
>> 327 MB of data associated!
>
> Bloat, bloat and even more bloat.

It's a variation of Parkinson's Law: programs grow to
fill up all available disk space, memory, and CPU cycles.

> Systems aren't going to get that much faster anymore.
> Maybe people will actually learn again how to make good use of
> computer resources (one can hope...)

More likely, marketroids will convince them to put up with
ever-decreasing capability, since only that which lets the
companies control them will have priority. But the screens
will get prettier and prettier, so everything will be OK.

"The chocolate ration will be increased from seven grams to five."

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Re: Food for thought? [message #399711 is a reply to message #399678] Wed, 09 September 2020 17:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: Bob Eager

On Wed, 09 Sep 2020 17:20:50 +0000, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> On 2020-09-09, Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote:
>
>> gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> schrieb:
>>
>>> My first home PC, in 1987, was an Amstrad 1512 with two 5" floppy
>>> disks.
>>>
>>> The second home PC, 1992, was a Viglen with a 40MB HD.
>>>
>>> 40MB ? ? ?
>>>
>>> ... I just decided to delete the history from Microsoft Edge and was
>>> warned that there were 327 MB of data associated!
>>
>> Bloat, bloat and even more bloat.
>
> It's a variation of Parkinson's Law: programs grow to fill up all
> available disk space, memory, and CPU cycles.

I think Gareth hasn't learned about caches...



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Re: Food for thought? [message #399714 is a reply to message #399711] Wed, 09 September 2020 17:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: gareth evans

On 09/09/2020 22:21, Bob Eager wrote:
> On Wed, 09 Sep 2020 17:20:50 +0000, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>
>> On 2020-09-09, Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote:
>>
>>> gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> schrieb:
>>>
>>>> My first home PC, in 1987, was an Amstrad 1512 with two 5" floppy
>>>> disks.
>>>>
>>>> The second home PC, 1992, was a Viglen with a 40MB HD.
>>>>
>>>> 40MB ? ? ?
>>>>
>>>> ... I just decided to delete the history from Microsoft Edge and was
>>>> warned that there were 327 MB of data associated!
>>>
>>> Bloat, bloat and even more bloat.
>>
>> It's a variation of Parkinson's Law: programs grow to fill up all
>> available disk space, memory, and CPU cycles.
>
> I think Gareth hasn't learned about caches...

Again, I query the motivation behind the way in which you respond?
Re: Food for thought? [message #399786 is a reply to message #399714] Thu, 10 September 2020 12:54 Go to previous message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: Chris

On 09/09/20 22:38, gareth evans wrote:
> On 09/09/2020 22:21, Bob Eager wrote:
>> On Wed, 09 Sep 2020 17:20:50 +0000, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>
>>> On 2020-09-09, Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> schrieb:
>>>>
>>>> > My first home PC, in 1987, was an Amstrad 1512 with two 5" floppy
>>>> > disks.
>>>> >
>>>> > The second home PC, 1992, was a Viglen with a 40MB HD.
>>>> >
>>>> > 40MB ? ? ?
>>>> >
>>>> > ... I just decided to delete the history from Microsoft Edge and was
>>>> > warned that there were 327 MB of data associated!
>>>>
>>>> Bloat, bloat and even more bloat.
>>>
>>> It's a variation of Parkinson's Law: programs grow to fill up all
>>> available disk space, memory, and CPU cycles.
>>
>> I think Gareth hasn't learned about caches...
>
> Again, I query the motivation behind the way in which you respond?
>
>

>
Whatever, but has spent some time recently restoring a couple
of Sparcstation 2 machines in the collection. Put in a 36Gb
2.5" scsi drive, modified bracket, put s socket on the idprom
and fitted a bigger battery, cleaned & relubed the fans, same
with the psu and Solaris 2.6, installed everything. Terminal
into the serial port, but does support graphcal install as
well.

The reason for this story ?. With just 20Mb (Yes megabytes)
of ram, is quite happy running cde or Sunos and draws just
35 watts from the line. Of course a bit slow, but a nearly
30 year old machine and could still do some serious work on
it.

Just how far have we come in 30 years ?, sometimes wonder...

Chris
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