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Some woz-a-day files on archive.org not working [message #394773] Thu, 21 May 2020 13:05 Go to next message
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Originally posted by: Eric N

I wasn't sure who to contact about this, but I was randomly downloading some woz-a-day .woz images to try out on Virtual ][ and noticed that a number of them were not working. Most were fine, but here are the ones that did not work for me. Maybe the uploader will spot this and re-upload:

- Wizplus
- Wizardy I
- Wizardry II
- Wizardry III
- Wizardry IV

Wizardry V was fine and I'm using the latest version of Virtual ][ (9.3.1).

Eric
Re: Some woz-a-day files on archive.org not working [message #394775 is a reply to message #394773] Thu, 21 May 2020 13:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Frank M.

"Wizardry: Proving Grounds of the Mad Overlord" is a 1981 roleplaying game by Andrew Greenberg and Robert Woodhead, and published by Sir-Tech Software. This is version 2.1. It runs on any Apple ][ with 48K.

Note: some emulators may have difficulty loading this disk because of its especially timing-sensitive copy protection."
Re: Some woz-a-day files on archive.org not working [message #394776 is a reply to message #394775] Thu, 21 May 2020 13:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Frank M.

It works in MicroM8 if you're on a mac.

https://paleotronic.com/software/microm8/


Also works on AppleWin under Wine.

f
Re: Some woz-a-day files on archive.org not working [message #394785 is a reply to message #394776] Thu, 21 May 2020 17:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Eric N

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> Also works on AppleWin under Wine.

Interesting. I tested using both an Apple ][. The .dsk versions of the same games have always run Virtual ][, but it still might be an emulator issue. I'll email Gerard about it.

Eric
Re: Some woz-a-day files on archive.org not working [message #394787 is a reply to message #394785] Thu, 21 May 2020 18:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Also try enabling write-protection on the master disk.
Re: Some woz-a-day files on archive.org not working [message #394818 is a reply to message #394787] Fri, 22 May 2020 16:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Eric N

On Thursday, May 21, 2020 at 5:32:07 PM UTC-5, qkumba wrote:
> Also try enabling write-protection on the master disk.

No luck on setting write protect. Choplifter is also not booting correctly.. It's hard to tell if the .woz images are the problem or the emulator. I have an AppleSauce on order and an original copy of Wizardy so I will try my own .woz imaging to see if I get a different result.

Eric
Re: Some woz-a-day files on archive.org not working [message #394822 is a reply to message #394818] Fri, 22 May 2020 19:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Have you tried other emulators?
Re: Some woz-a-day files on archive.org not working [message #394831 is a reply to message #394822] Fri, 22 May 2020 22:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Eric N

On Friday, May 22, 2020 at 6:25:27 PM UTC-5, Mark Pilgrim wrote:
> Have you tried other emulators?

I just tested with AppleWin 1.29 and Wizardry .woz images are all working, so it looks like something is up with Virtual ][ and the .woz format. I hope Gerard can fix the issue.

Eric
Re: Some woz-a-day files on archive.org not working [message #394855 is a reply to message #394818] Sat, 23 May 2020 10:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Friday, 22 May 2020 21:34:06 UTC+1, Eric N wrote:
> On Thursday, May 21, 2020 at 5:32:07 PM UTC-5, qkumba wrote:
>> Also try enabling write-protection on the master disk.
>
> No luck on setting write protect. Choplifter is also not booting correctly. It's hard to tell if the .woz images are the problem or the emulator. I have an AppleSauce on order and an original copy of Wizardy so I will try my own .woz imaging to see if I get a different result.
>
> Eric

NB. Choplifter doesn't work on an Enhanced //e.

Woz-a-day (https://archive.org/details/wozaday_Choplifter) says:
"It requires a 48K Apple II or ][+. Due to compatibility issues created by the copy protection, it will not run on later models."

But on AppleWin, it also works with an un-enhanced (NMOS 6502) //e.

Tom
Re: Some woz-a-day files on archive.org not working [message #394864 is a reply to message #394855] Sat, 23 May 2020 14:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Eric N

> NB. Choplifter doesn't work on an Enhanced //e.
>

Ah, yes. I recall now that the Choplifter copy protection was something tied to the ROMs in the Apple. I checked Choplifter again with Virtual ][ in a ][+ configuration and it works. The Wizardry .woz images still won't boot and I've tried multiple emulator build-outs with them.

I will make my own Wizardry .woz file when I get my Apple Sauce next week to see if that makes a difference.

Eric
Re: Some woz-a-day files on archive.org not working [message #395204 is a reply to message #394864] Sun, 31 May 2020 20:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Eric N

> I will make my own Wizardry .woz file when I get my Apple Sauce next week to see if that makes a difference.
>

I got the AppleSauce setup and that is one brilliant piece of kit! I flux-imaged a number of original disks successfully, including my 3rd edition copy of Wizardry. Virtual ][ still doesn't like the Wizardry .woz image for some reason while other emulators like AppleWin run it just fine. Gerard said he would open a ticket.

Eric
Re: Some woz-a-day files on archive.org not working [message #395498 is a reply to message #395204] Sat, 06 June 2020 18:23 Go to previous message
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Originally posted by: Eric N

On Sunday, May 31, 2020 at 7:29:55 PM UTC-5, Eric N wrote:
>> I will make my own Wizardry .woz file when I get my Apple Sauce next week to see if that makes a difference.
>>

This issue in Virtual ][ is related to Pascal-formatted disks. When I came to my Apple Pascal OS disks during my .woz archiving sessions, I encountered the same issue (AppleWin and MicroM8 sill work fine with .woz images of Pascal formats. Since Wizardry was written in Pascal, it has the same problem.

Eric
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