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Re: Star Trek: Discovery star replies to show's racist critics [message #394297 is a reply to message #394296] Fri, 30 June 2017 09:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ubiquitous is currently offline  Ubiquitous
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anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
> Wouter Valentijn <liam@valentijn.nu> wrote:
>> Op 29-6-2017 om 22:01 schreef anim8rfsk:
>>> Wouter Valentijn <liam@valentijn.nu> wrote:
>>>> Op 28-6-2017 om 23:16 schreef anim8rfsk:
>>>> > In article <oj10v6$n7c$1@dont-email.me>, Obveeus <Obveeus@aol.com>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >> On 6/28/2017 3:13 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>> >>> Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>>>> >>>> droleary@2017usenet1.subsume.com wrote:
>>>> >>>>> Obveeus <Obveeus@aol.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>> On 6/26/2017 3:30 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>> Obveeus <Obveeus@aol.com> wrote:

>>>> >>>>>>>> If you are going to rag on the show as being incompetent for
>>>> >>>>>>>> changing
>>>> >>>>>>>> the look of 'known things', how do you resolve the changes within
>>>> >>>>>>>> the
>>>> >>>>>>>> original cast era (such as the Klingon's face/head)?
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> They explained that.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Yep...with hand-wavium silliness that negated the simple reality
>>>> >>>>>> that
>>>> >>>>>> the Trek film modified the look of the Klingons because the original
>>>> >>>>>> look was too simplistic and lame for a film.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> And yet the Vulcans got a pass. Aren't all of us humanoids supposed
>>>> >>>>> to
>>>> >>>>> be closely related in Trek anyway? Seems kind of racist that there
>>>> >>>>> hasn't been a lot more interbreeding . . .
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Yeah, there was an ep of TNG in which it was established that most of
>>>> >>>> the
>>>> >>>> humanoids in this galaxy have something encoded in their DNA that
>>>> >>>> produces
>>>> >>>> a
>>>> >>>> holographic message when reassembled.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> I _HATE_ "magic DNA" eps!
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Yeah, wasn't it humans, Vulcans, Klingons, and Romulans?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I think it was just Vulcans, Romulans, and Klingons...with Humans
>>>> >> evolving independently rather than being seeded.
>>>> >
>>>> > Wiki says humans, Kardashians, Klingons and Romulans are involved. It
>>>> > makes sense for Kardashians to be non human.
>>>> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> You'd think the Klingonese DNA would be so screwed up that their
>>>> >>> portion
>>>> >>> wouldn't work.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Well, it is now...ever since the bumpy head event.
>>>> >
>>>> > Oh, Hell, I'll pull it up on the Netflix. First time for TNG.
>>>> >
>>>> > "The Chase" - TNG always did have uninspired titles.
>>>> >
>>>> > How does Will sneak this guy into the observation lounge without Picard
>>>> > knowing?
>>>> >
>>>> > Best part of TNG - the TMP theme song.
>>>> >
>>>> > oh, God, no, guest star Tara King, the woman that destroyed The Avengers!
>>>> >
>>>> > Troy is real. Not Troi, Troy.
>>>> >
>>>> > How do you possibly know that finding an unknown treasure will take 3
>>>> > months to less than a year? Wouldn't the time frame be zero to infinity?
>>>>
>>>> Optimism?
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > Why is Picard talking to an Irish setter in a blue uniform?
>>>> >
>>>> > The incompetent ship's doctor can't save Picard's old friend. Imagine
>>>> > my surprise.
>>>>
>>>> And ironically the old friend once WAS a doctor. :-)
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > Troi is annoying.
>>>> >
>>>> > Why would the Professor's diary say where to go after this, if he's
>>>> > following a trail? Why are they going back to a planet the professor
>>>> > had already been to?
>>>> >
>>>> > If the Klingons can just effortlessly destroy the biosphere of a planet,
>>>> > why haven't they killed everybody everywhere yet?
>>>>
>>>> Deals with the UFP?
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > How can you not take a biosample from a planet with the transporter?
>>>> >
>>>> > Why does Picard assign the incompetent doctor to design a computer
>>>> > program to find the missing fragment?
>>>> >
>>>> > Why does a lifeless planet having once had an ocean mean it once
>>>> > supported life?
>>>> >
>>>> > How did the Kardashians go to the wrong planet, figure out it was the
>>>> > wrong planet, through some mysterious mechanism figure out what the
>>>> > right planet is, and get there 30 seconds after the Enterprise?
>>>> >
>>>> > How come the ancient alien is one of Odo's people?
>>>>
>>>> Bad luck?
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > Okay, the final answer is - there's a bunch of fragments from a bunch of
>>>> > worlds, and it's totally unclear how many, much less who is included and
>>>> > who is not. But apparently Kardashians, Romulans, and Earthers are
>>>> > related, and presumably all humanoids in 'this part of the galaxy' are,
>>>> > which doesn't explain all the humanoids over there in the Delta quadrant.
>>>> >
>>>> > God this is a lousy show.
>>>>
>>>> Extremely bad science. That's not how it works.
>>>>
>>>> The Preservers as an explanation was much cooler for human types across
>>>> the galaxy. Parallel evolution would be slightly more plausible.
>>>
>>> Yep. We already had the Preservers and Sargon's people. And whoever
>>> the Hell built Miri's planet, which looks just like Earth, but is
>>> *older* There was no reason for this stupid crap episode at all.
>>>
>>
>> One of my reference books (forgot which one, maybe 'Worlds of the
>> Federation'?), speculated that Earth's solar system went through some
>> gigantic cosmic replicator (or something like that), resulting in that
>> Earth duplicate in 'Miri'.
>
> THE SHAT got into it a little bit in his Trek books. The big problem
> and inescapable conclusion is that given that the Miri world is like 100
> years older than Earth, there's just no way that Earth is the original!

Say what?
One hundred years is pretty insignificant compared to the age of a planet.

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Re: Star Trek: Discovery star replies to show's racist critics [message #394298 is a reply to message #394297] Fri, 30 June 2017 09:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wouter Valentijn is currently offline  Wouter Valentijn
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Op 30-6-2017 om 15:40 schreef Ubiquitous:
> anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
>> Wouter Valentijn <liam@valentijn.nu> wrote:
>>> Op 29-6-2017 om 22:01 schreef anim8rfsk:
>>>> Wouter Valentijn <liam@valentijn.nu> wrote:
>>>> > Op 28-6-2017 om 23:16 schreef anim8rfsk:
<snip>

>>>> >>
>>>> >> How can you not take a biosample from a planet with the transporter?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Why does Picard assign the incompetent doctor to design a computer
>>>> >> program to find the missing fragment?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Why does a lifeless planet having once had an ocean mean it once
>>>> >> supported life?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> How did the Kardashians go to the wrong planet, figure out it was the
>>>> >> wrong planet, through some mysterious mechanism figure out what the
>>>> >> right planet is, and get there 30 seconds after the Enterprise?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> How come the ancient alien is one of Odo's people?
>>>> >
>>>> > Bad luck?
>>>> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Okay, the final answer is - there's a bunch of fragments from a bunch of
>>>> >> worlds, and it's totally unclear how many, much less who is included and
>>>> >> who is not. But apparently Kardashians, Romulans, and Earthers are
>>>> >> related, and presumably all humanoids in 'this part of the galaxy' are,
>>>> >> which doesn't explain all the humanoids over there in the Delta quadrant.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> God this is a lousy show.
>>>> >
>>>> > Extremely bad science. That's not how it works.
>>>> >
>>>> > The Preservers as an explanation was much cooler for human types across
>>>> > the galaxy. Parallel evolution would be slightly more plausible.
>>>>
>>>> Yep. We already had the Preservers and Sargon's people. And whoever
>>>> the Hell built Miri's planet, which looks just like Earth, but is
>>>> *older* There was no reason for this stupid crap episode at all.
>>>>
>>>
>>> One of my reference books (forgot which one, maybe 'Worlds of the
>>> Federation'?), speculated that Earth's solar system went through some
>>> gigantic cosmic replicator (or something like that), resulting in that
>>> Earth duplicate in 'Miri'.
>>
>> THE SHAT got into it a little bit in his Trek books. The big problem
>> and inescapable conclusion is that given that the Miri world is like 100
>> years older than Earth, there's just no way that Earth is the original!
>
> Say what?
> One hundred years is pretty insignificant compared to the age of a planet.
>

Plus, there also could have been a time warp or something.

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Re: Star Trek: Discovery star replies to show's racist critics [message #394302 is a reply to message #394297] Fri, 30 June 2017 10:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
anim8rFSK is currently offline  anim8rFSK
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In article <oj5k61$fj3$17@dont-email.me>,
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

> anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
>> Wouter Valentijn <liam@valentijn.nu> wrote:
>>> Op 29-6-2017 om 22:01 schreef anim8rfsk:
>>>> Wouter Valentijn <liam@valentijn.nu> wrote:
>>>> > Op 28-6-2017 om 23:16 schreef anim8rfsk:
>>>> >> In article <oj10v6$n7c$1@dont-email.me>, Obveeus <Obveeus@aol.com>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>> On 6/28/2017 3:13 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>> >>>> Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>>>> >>>>> droleary@2017usenet1.subsume.com wrote:
>>>> >>>>>> Obveeus <Obveeus@aol.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>> On 6/26/2017 3:30 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>> Obveeus <Obveeus@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you are going to rag on the show as being incompetent for
>>>> >>>>>>>>> changing
>>>> >>>>>>>>> the look of 'known things', how do you resolve the changes
>>>> >>>>>>>>> within
>>>> >>>>>>>>> the
>>>> >>>>>>>>> original cast era (such as the Klingon's face/head)?
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> They explained that.
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Yep...with hand-wavium silliness that negated the simple reality
>>>> >>>>>>> that
>>>> >>>>>>> the Trek film modified the look of the Klingons because the
>>>> >>>>>>> original
>>>> >>>>>>> look was too simplistic and lame for a film.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> And yet the Vulcans got a pass. Aren't all of us humanoids
>>>> >>>>>> supposed
>>>> >>>>>> to
>>>> >>>>>> be closely related in Trek anyway? Seems kind of racist that
>>>> >>>>>> there
>>>> >>>>>> hasn't been a lot more interbreeding . . .
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Yeah, there was an ep of TNG in which it was established that most
>>>> >>>>> of
>>>> >>>>> the
>>>> >>>>> humanoids in this galaxy have something encoded in their DNA that
>>>> >>>>> produces
>>>> >>>>> a
>>>> >>>>> holographic message when reassembled.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> I _HATE_ "magic DNA" eps!
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Yeah, wasn't it humans, Vulcans, Klingons, and Romulans?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I think it was just Vulcans, Romulans, and Klingons...with Humans
>>>> >>> evolving independently rather than being seeded.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Wiki says humans, Kardashians, Klingons and Romulans are involved. It
>>>> >> makes sense for Kardashians to be non human.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> You'd think the Klingonese DNA would be so screwed up that their
>>>> >>>> portion
>>>> >>>> wouldn't work.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Well, it is now...ever since the bumpy head event.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Oh, Hell, I'll pull it up on the Netflix. First time for TNG.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> "The Chase" - TNG always did have uninspired titles.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> How does Will sneak this guy into the observation lounge without
>>>> >> Picard
>>>> >> knowing?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Best part of TNG - the TMP theme song.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> oh, God, no, guest star Tara King, the woman that destroyed The
>>>> >> Avengers!
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Troy is real. Not Troi, Troy.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> How do you possibly know that finding an unknown treasure will take 3
>>>> >> months to less than a year? Wouldn't the time frame be zero to
>>>> >> infinity?
>>>> >
>>>> > Optimism?
>>>> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Why is Picard talking to an Irish setter in a blue uniform?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> The incompetent ship's doctor can't save Picard's old friend. Imagine
>>>> >> my surprise.
>>>> >
>>>> > And ironically the old friend once WAS a doctor. :-)
>>>> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Troi is annoying.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Why would the Professor's diary say where to go after this, if he's
>>>> >> following a trail? Why are they going back to a planet the professor
>>>> >> had already been to?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> If the Klingons can just effortlessly destroy the biosphere of a
>>>> >> planet,
>>>> >> why haven't they killed everybody everywhere yet?
>>>> >
>>>> > Deals with the UFP?
>>>> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >> How can you not take a biosample from a planet with the transporter?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Why does Picard assign the incompetent doctor to design a computer
>>>> >> program to find the missing fragment?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Why does a lifeless planet having once had an ocean mean it once
>>>> >> supported life?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> How did the Kardashians go to the wrong planet, figure out it was the
>>>> >> wrong planet, through some mysterious mechanism figure out what the
>>>> >> right planet is, and get there 30 seconds after the Enterprise?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> How come the ancient alien is one of Odo's people?
>>>> >
>>>> > Bad luck?
>>>> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Okay, the final answer is - there's a bunch of fragments from a bunch
>>>> >> of
>>>> >> worlds, and it's totally unclear how many, much less who is included
>>>> >> and
>>>> >> who is not. But apparently Kardashians, Romulans, and Earthers are
>>>> >> related, and presumably all humanoids in 'this part of the galaxy'
>>>> >> are,
>>>> >> which doesn't explain all the humanoids over there in the Delta
>>>> >> quadrant.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> God this is a lousy show.
>>>> >
>>>> > Extremely bad science. That's not how it works.
>>>> >
>>>> > The Preservers as an explanation was much cooler for human types across
>>>> > the galaxy. Parallel evolution would be slightly more plausible.
>>>>
>>>> Yep. We already had the Preservers and Sargon's people. And whoever
>>>> the Hell built Miri's planet, which looks just like Earth, but is
>>>> *older* There was no reason for this stupid crap episode at all.
>>>>
>>>
>>> One of my reference books (forgot which one, maybe 'Worlds of the
>>> Federation'?), speculated that Earth's solar system went through some
>>> gigantic cosmic replicator (or something like that), resulting in that
>>> Earth duplicate in 'Miri'.
>>
>> THE SHAT got into it a little bit in his Trek books. The big problem
>> and inescapable conclusion is that given that the Miri world is like 100
>> years older than Earth, there's just no way that Earth is the original!
>
> Say what?
> One hundred years is pretty insignificant compared to the age of a planet.

But the Miri civilization was identical to 1960s Mayberry, and yet dated
from a hundred years earlier. So it was there first.

Now maybe Don Knotts went back in time and messed stuff up, but the Miri
world was the one with identical land masses, so ... it's either the
original or an earlier copy of something else, but no way our Earth was
first.

Same thing for the duplicate civilization in THE OMEGA GLORY. There was
no mention of identical land masses, but if Tracey was right, the good
guys lost a war the the Godless commies more than a thousand years
before, so it's identical civilization is way older than the Miri world,
much less Earth.

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Re: Star Trek: Discovery star replies to show's racist critics [message #394303 is a reply to message #394302] Fri, 30 June 2017 10:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wouter Valentijn is currently offline  Wouter Valentijn
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Op 30-6-2017 om 16:00 schreef anim8rfsk:
> In article <oj5k61$fj3$17@dont-email.me>,
> Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>
>> anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
>>> Wouter Valentijn <liam@valentijn.nu> wrote:
>>>> Op 29-6-2017 om 22:01 schreef anim8rfsk:
>>>> > Wouter Valentijn <liam@valentijn.nu> wrote:
>>>> >> Op 28-6-2017 om 23:16 schreef anim8rfsk:
>>>> >>> In article <oj10v6$n7c$1@dont-email.me>, Obveeus <Obveeus@aol.com>
>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>> >>>> On 6/28/2017 3:13 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>> >>>>> Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>> droleary@2017usenet1.subsume.com wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>> Obveeus <Obveeus@aol.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>> On 6/26/2017 3:30 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>> Obveeus <Obveeus@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If you are going to rag on the show as being incompetent for
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> changing
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> the look of 'known things', how do you resolve the changes
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> within
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> the
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> original cast era (such as the Klingon's face/head)?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> They explained that.
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> Yep...with hand-wavium silliness that negated the simple reality
>>>> >>>>>>>> that
>>>> >>>>>>>> the Trek film modified the look of the Klingons because the
>>>> >>>>>>>> original
>>>> >>>>>>>> look was too simplistic and lame for a film.
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> And yet the Vulcans got a pass. Aren't all of us humanoids
>>>> >>>>>>> supposed
>>>> >>>>>>> to
>>>> >>>>>>> be closely related in Trek anyway? Seems kind of racist that
>>>> >>>>>>> there
>>>> >>>>>>> hasn't been a lot more interbreeding . . .
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Yeah, there was an ep of TNG in which it was established that most
>>>> >>>>>> of
>>>> >>>>>> the
>>>> >>>>>> humanoids in this galaxy have something encoded in their DNA that
>>>> >>>>>> produces
>>>> >>>>>> a
>>>> >>>>>> holographic message when reassembled.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> I _HATE_ "magic DNA" eps!
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Yeah, wasn't it humans, Vulcans, Klingons, and Romulans?
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> I think it was just Vulcans, Romulans, and Klingons...with Humans
>>>> >>>> evolving independently rather than being seeded.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Wiki says humans, Kardashians, Klingons and Romulans are involved. It
>>>> >>> makes sense for Kardashians to be non human.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>> You'd think the Klingonese DNA would be so screwed up that their
>>>> >>>>> portion
>>>> >>>>> wouldn't work.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Well, it is now...ever since the bumpy head event.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Oh, Hell, I'll pull it up on the Netflix. First time for TNG.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> "The Chase" - TNG always did have uninspired titles.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> How does Will sneak this guy into the observation lounge without
>>>> >>> Picard
>>>> >>> knowing?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Best part of TNG - the TMP theme song.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> oh, God, no, guest star Tara King, the woman that destroyed The
>>>> >>> Avengers!
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Troy is real. Not Troi, Troy.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> How do you possibly know that finding an unknown treasure will take 3
>>>> >>> months to less than a year? Wouldn't the time frame be zero to
>>>> >>> infinity?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Optimism?
>>>> >>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Why is Picard talking to an Irish setter in a blue uniform?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> The incompetent ship's doctor can't save Picard's old friend. Imagine
>>>> >>> my surprise.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> And ironically the old friend once WAS a doctor. :-)
>>>> >>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Troi is annoying.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Why would the Professor's diary say where to go after this, if he's
>>>> >>> following a trail? Why are they going back to a planet the professor
>>>> >>> had already been to?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> If the Klingons can just effortlessly destroy the biosphere of a
>>>> >>> planet,
>>>> >>> why haven't they killed everybody everywhere yet?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Deals with the UFP?
>>>> >>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> How can you not take a biosample from a planet with the transporter?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Why does Picard assign the incompetent doctor to design a computer
>>>> >>> program to find the missing fragment?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Why does a lifeless planet having once had an ocean mean it once
>>>> >>> supported life?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> How did the Kardashians go to the wrong planet, figure out it was the
>>>> >>> wrong planet, through some mysterious mechanism figure out what the
>>>> >>> right planet is, and get there 30 seconds after the Enterprise?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> How come the ancient alien is one of Odo's people?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Bad luck?
>>>> >>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Okay, the final answer is - there's a bunch of fragments from a bunch
>>>> >>> of
>>>> >>> worlds, and it's totally unclear how many, much less who is included
>>>> >>> and
>>>> >>> who is not. But apparently Kardashians, Romulans, and Earthers are
>>>> >>> related, and presumably all humanoids in 'this part of the galaxy'
>>>> >>> are,
>>>> >>> which doesn't explain all the humanoids over there in the Delta
>>>> >>> quadrant.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> God this is a lousy show.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Extremely bad science. That's not how it works.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> The Preservers as an explanation was much cooler for human types across
>>>> >> the galaxy. Parallel evolution would be slightly more plausible.
>>>> >
>>>> > Yep. We already had the Preservers and Sargon's people. And whoever
>>>> > the Hell built Miri's planet, which looks just like Earth, but is
>>>> > *older* There was no reason for this stupid crap episode at all.
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> One of my reference books (forgot which one, maybe 'Worlds of the
>>>> Federation'?), speculated that Earth's solar system went through some
>>>> gigantic cosmic replicator (or something like that), resulting in that
>>>> Earth duplicate in 'Miri'.
>>>
>>> THE SHAT got into it a little bit in his Trek books. The big problem
>>> and inescapable conclusion is that given that the Miri world is like 100
>>> years older than Earth, there's just no way that Earth is the original!
>>
>> Say what?
>> One hundred years is pretty insignificant compared to the age of a planet.
>
> But the Miri civilization was identical to 1960s Mayberry, and yet dated
> from a hundred years earlier. So it was there first.
>
> Now maybe Don Knotts went back in time and messed stuff up, but the Miri
> world was the one with identical land masses, so ... it's either the
> original or an earlier copy of something else, but no way our Earth was
> first.
>
> Same thing for the duplicate civilization in THE OMEGA GLORY. There was
> no mention of identical land masses, but if Tracey was right, the good
> guys lost a war the the Godless commies more than a thousand years
> before, so it's identical civilization is way older than the Miri world,
> much less Earth.
>

Some sort of parallel evolution.

Roughly following the same type of pattern.

IRL something like that actually happens / has happened in biology.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_evolution

Of course development in our beloved Trek Universe is even closer than
that. :-)

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Re: Star Trek: Discovery star replies to show's racist critics [message #394304 is a reply to message #394290] Fri, 30 June 2017 13:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jerry Brown is currently offline  Jerry Brown
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On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 14:56:04 -0500, "Jim G."
<jimgysin@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:

> anim8rfsk sent the following on 06/28/2017 at 11:57 AM:
>> In article <ndn7lctf8t1983hieecmpsrsr3adinfpf1@jwbrown.co.uk>,
>> Jerry Brown <jerry@jwbrown.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 07:58:57 -0400, Obveeus <Obveeus@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/26/2017 11:26 PM, Jim G. wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Seriously? I never knew that, and I've seen the movie many times.
>>>>
>>>> For whatever reason, the plot point never made it into the film.
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > I knew that the young Vulcan destined to never take Spock's place was
>>>> > one of the victims (since Decker had to pull double-duty until Spock
>>>> > showed up), but when did they tell us that the other victim was the love
>>>> > of Kirk's life? And why didn't he react more strongly if that was the
>>>> > case?
>>>>
>>>> The extended scene of Kirk walking around the ship in a daze after the
>>>> transporter accident was supposed to be all about him processing the
>>>> loss of his love. Maybe the director decided that it still had that
>>>> dramatic effect (showing that Kirk felt intense loss at the death of a
>>>> crew member) without identifying the loss as something personal to Kirk
>>>> (which could diminish the idea that he feels for every member of the
>>>> crew or could make him look callous for recovering in just a few minutes
>>>> and getting back to work after the loss of his significant other)?
>>>
>>> Similarly STWoK removed references to Ensign Preston being Scotty's
>>> nephew, possibly for the same reason. IIRC these scenes are available
>>> as extras on recent releases.
>>
>> And that was just stupid. They saved about 10 seconds of screen time,
>> and made you wonder why the Hell Scotty was wandering around carrying
>> his body.
>
> EXACTLY! If you're gonna cut the family ties reference, then don't make
> Scotty look like an idiot. Well, frankly, he would have looked like an
> idiot either way, but it would have been somewhat understandable if we'd
> known about the family ties all along.

The novelisation claimed that Scotty was trying to get Preston to
sickbay but the elevator screwed up due to damage during Khan's
attack.

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(but probably won't bother)
Re: Star Trek: Discovery star replies to show's racist critics [message #394305 is a reply to message #394294] Fri, 30 June 2017 15:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wouter Valentijn sent the following on 06/30/2017 at 06:54 AM:
> Op 29-6-2017 om 21:56 schreef Jim G.:
>> Wouter Valentijn sent the following on 06/28/2017 at 12:39 PM:
>>> Op 27-6-2017 om 22:10 schreef Jim G.:
>>>>
>>>> So I've learned. Frankly, it's probably a good thing since the
>>>> alternative would have been a bit much on the Kirk-as-Romeo front. In
>>>> any case, I now know that Ruth wasn't the love of Kirk's life after all.
>>>> Unless the love of his life changed from year to year. :)
>>>>
>>> Or Areel Shaw, or Janet Wallace also from the past and during TOS Edith
>>> Keeler, Miramanee, Rayna Kapec.
>>
>> The concept of "love of Kirk's life" was clearly a fluid thing. :)
>
> And there were fluids involved. Specially with Miramanee.

And Dr. Marcus. Apparently birth control isn't much of a thing in the
future. Either that, or James T.'s swimmers are particularly robust.

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Re: Star Trek: Discovery star replies to show's racist critics [message #394306 is a reply to message #394304] Fri, 30 June 2017 15:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jerry Brown sent the following on 06/30/2017 at 12:18 PM:
> On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 14:56:04 -0500, "Jim G."
> <jimgysin@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>> anim8rfsk sent the following on 06/28/2017 at 11:57 AM:
>>> In article <ndn7lctf8t1983hieecmpsrsr3adinfpf1@jwbrown.co.uk>,
>>> Jerry Brown <jerry@jwbrown.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Similarly STWoK removed references to Ensign Preston being Scotty's
>>>> nephew, possibly for the same reason. IIRC these scenes are available
>>>> as extras on recent releases.
>>>
>>> And that was just stupid. They saved about 10 seconds of screen time,
>>> and made you wonder why the Hell Scotty was wandering around carrying
>>> his body.
>>
>> EXACTLY! If you're gonna cut the family ties reference, then don't make
>> Scotty look like an idiot. Well, frankly, he would have looked like an
>> idiot either way, but it would have been somewhat understandable if we'd
>> known about the family ties all along.
>
> The novelisation claimed that Scotty was trying to get Preston to
> sickbay but the elevator screwed up due to damage during Khan's
> attack.

That would have been a nice thing to see, too. It just seems unfortunate
that, like the transporter business, a minute or two of time spent on
the pretty light shows couldn't have been used for this sort of
explanation instead.

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Jim G. sent the following on 06/30/2017 at 02:33 PM:
> Jerry Brown sent the following on 06/30/2017 at 12:18 PM:
>> On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 14:56:04 -0500, "Jim G."
>> <jimgysin@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> anim8rfsk sent the following on 06/28/2017 at 11:57 AM:
>>>> In article <ndn7lctf8t1983hieecmpsrsr3adinfpf1@jwbrown.co.uk>,
>>>> Jerry Brown <jerry@jwbrown.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Similarly STWoK removed references to Ensign Preston being Scotty's
>>>> > nephew, possibly for the same reason. IIRC these scenes are available
>>>> > as extras on recent releases.
>>>>
>>>> And that was just stupid. They saved about 10 seconds of screen time,
>>>> and made you wonder why the Hell Scotty was wandering around carrying
>>>> his body.
>>>
>>> EXACTLY! If you're gonna cut the family ties reference, then don't make
>>> Scotty look like an idiot. Well, frankly, he would have looked like an
>>> idiot either way, but it would have been somewhat understandable if we'd
>>> known about the family ties all along.
>>
>> The novelisation claimed that Scotty was trying to get Preston to
>> sickbay but the elevator screwed up due to damage during Khan's
>> attack.
>
> That would have been a nice thing to see, too. It just seems unfortunate
> that, like the transporter business, a minute or two of time spent on
> the pretty light shows couldn't have been used for this sort of
> explanation instead.

And yes, I'm sorta blurring my complaints about the first two movies,
but that's because there's a common theme to it: visuals are nice, but
not at the expense of head-scratching stuff that goes unexplained.

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Re: Star Trek: Discovery star replies to show's racist critics [message #394308 is a reply to message #394305] Fri, 30 June 2017 15:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In article <oj68ol$p1s$1@dont-email.me>,
"Jim G." <jimgysin@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:

> Wouter Valentijn sent the following on 06/30/2017 at 06:54 AM:
>> Op 29-6-2017 om 21:56 schreef Jim G.:
>>> Wouter Valentijn sent the following on 06/28/2017 at 12:39 PM:
>>>> Op 27-6-2017 om 22:10 schreef Jim G.:
>>>> >
>>>> > So I've learned. Frankly, it's probably a good thing since the
>>>> > alternative would have been a bit much on the Kirk-as-Romeo front. In
>>>> > any case, I now know that Ruth wasn't the love of Kirk's life after all.
>>>> > Unless the love of his life changed from year to year. :)
>>>> >
>>>> Or Areel Shaw, or Janet Wallace also from the past and during TOS Edith
>>>> Keeler, Miramanee, Rayna Kapec.
>>>
>>> The concept of "love of Kirk's life" was clearly a fluid thing. :)
>>
>> And there were fluids involved. Specially with Miramanee.
>
> And Dr. Marcus. Apparently birth control isn't much of a thing in the
> future. Either that, or James T.'s swimmers are particularly robust.

Getting preggers with a idjiot son might have been part of the campaign
Gary Mitchell planned out for her.

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Re: Star Trek: Discovery star replies to show's racist critics [message #394309 is a reply to message #394307] Fri, 30 June 2017 15:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 6/30/2017 12:36 PM, Jim G. wrote:
> Jim G. sent the following on 06/30/2017 at 02:33 PM:
>> Jerry Brown sent the following on 06/30/2017 at 12:18 PM:
>>> On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 14:56:04 -0500, "Jim G."
>>> <jimgysin@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> anim8rfsk sent the following on 06/28/2017 at 11:57 AM:
>>>> > In article <ndn7lctf8t1983hieecmpsrsr3adinfpf1@jwbrown.co.uk>,
>>>> > Jerry Brown <jerry@jwbrown.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Similarly STWoK removed references to Ensign Preston being Scotty's
>>>> >> nephew, possibly for the same reason. IIRC these scenes are available
>>>> >> as extras on recent releases.
>>>> >
>>>> > And that was just stupid. They saved about 10 seconds of screen time,
>>>> > and made you wonder why the Hell Scotty was wandering around carrying
>>>> > his body.
>>>>
>>>> EXACTLY! If you're gonna cut the family ties reference, then don't make
>>>> Scotty look like an idiot. Well, frankly, he would have looked like an
>>>> idiot either way, but it would have been somewhat understandable if
>>>> we'd
>>>> known about the family ties all along.
>>>
>>> The novelisation claimed that Scotty was trying to get Preston to
>>> sickbay but the elevator screwed up due to damage during Khan's
>>> attack.
>>
>> That would have been a nice thing to see, too. It just seems unfortunate
>> that, like the transporter business, a minute or two of time spent on
>> the pretty light shows couldn't have been used for this sort of
>> explanation instead.
>
> And yes, I'm sorta blurring my complaints about the first two movies,
> but that's because there's a common theme to it: visuals are nice, but
> not at the expense of head-scratching stuff that goes unexplained.
>
I think the studios view it as "if you can pay enough attention to the
story to find head-scratching stuff to complain about, the visuals
weren't doing their job."

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Re: Star Trek: Discovery star replies to show's racist critics [message #394310 is a reply to message #394302] Fri, 30 June 2017 15:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
> Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>> anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
>>> Wouter Valentijn <liam@valentijn.nu> wrote:
>>>> Op 29-6-2017 om 22:01 schreef anim8rfsk:
>>>> > Wouter Valentijn <liam@valentijn.nu> wrote:
>>>> >> Op 28-6-2017 om 23:16 schreef anim8rfsk:
>>>> >>> Obveeus <Obveeus@aol.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>> On 6/28/2017 3:13 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>> >>>>> Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>> droleary@2017usenet1.subsume.com wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>> Obveeus <Obveeus@aol.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>> On 6/26/2017 3:30 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>> Obveeus <Obveeus@aol.com> wrote:

>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If you are going to rag on the show as being incompetent for
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> changing the look of 'known things', how do you resolve the
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> changes within the original cast era (such as the Klingon's
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> face/head)?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> They explained that.
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> Yep...with hand-wavium silliness that negated the simple reality that
>>>> >>>>>>>> the Trek film modified the look of the Klingons because the
>>>> >>>>>>>> original look was too simplistic and lame for a film.
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> And yet the Vulcans got a pass. Aren't all of us humanoids
>>>> >>>>>>> supposed to be closely related in Trek anyway? Seems kind of
>>>> >>>>>>> racist that there hasn't been a lot more interbreeding . . .
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Yeah, there was an ep of TNG in which it was established that most of
>>>> >>>>>> the humanoids in this galaxy have something encoded in their DNA that
>>>> >>>>>> produces a holographic message when reassembled.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> I _HATE_ "magic DNA" eps!
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Yeah, wasn't it humans, Vulcans, Klingons, and Romulans?
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> I think it was just Vulcans, Romulans, and Klingons...with Humans
>>>> >>>> evolving independently rather than being seeded.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>> You'd think the Klingonese DNA would be so screwed up that their
>>>> >>>>> portion wouldn't work.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Well, it is now...ever since the bumpy head event.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Oh, Hell, I'll pull it up on the Netflix. First time for TNG.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> "The Chase" - TNG always did have uninspired titles.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> How does Will sneak this guy into the observation lounge without
>>>> >>> Picard
>>>> >>> knowing?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Best part of TNG - the TMP theme song.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> oh, God, no, guest star Tara King, the woman that destroyed The
>>>> >>> Avengers!
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Troy is real. Not Troi, Troy.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> How do you possibly know that finding an unknown treasure will take 3
>>>> >>> months to less than a year? Wouldn't the time frame be zero to
>>>> >>> infinity?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Why is Picard talking to an Irish setter in a blue uniform?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> The incompetent ship's doctor can't save Picard's old friend. Imagine
>>>> >>> my surprise.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Troi is annoying.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Why would the Professor's diary say where to go after this, if he's
>>>> >>> following a trail? Why are they going back to a planet the professor
>>>> >>> had already been to?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> If the Klingons can just effortlessly destroy the biosphere of a
>>>> >>> planet,
>>>> >>> why haven't they killed everybody everywhere yet?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> How can you not take a biosample from a planet with the transporter?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Why does Picard assign the incompetent doctor to design a computer
>>>> >>> program to find the missing fragment?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Why does a lifeless planet having once had an ocean mean it once
>>>> >>> supported life?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> How did the Kardashians go to the wrong planet, figure out it was the
>>>> >>> wrong planet, through some mysterious mechanism figure out what the
>>>> >>> right planet is, and get there 30 seconds after the Enterprise?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> How come the ancient alien is one of Odo's people?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Okay, the final answer is - there's a bunch of fragments from a bunch of
>>>> >>> worlds, and it's totally unclear how many, much less who is included and
>>>> >>> who is not. But apparently Kardashians, Romulans, and Earthers are
>>>> >>> related, and presumably all humanoids in 'this part of the galaxy'
>>>> >>> are, which doesn't explain all the humanoids over there in the Delta
>>>> >>> quadrant.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> God this is a lousy show.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Extremely bad science. That's not how it works.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> The Preservers as an explanation was much cooler for human types across
>>>> >> the galaxy. Parallel evolution would be slightly more plausible.
>>>> >
>>>> > Yep. We already had the Preservers and Sargon's people. And whoever
>>>> > the Hell built Miri's planet, which looks just like Earth, but is
>>>> > *older* There was no reason for this stupid crap episode at all.
>>>>
>>>> One of my reference books (forgot which one, maybe 'Worlds of the
>>>> Federation'?), speculated that Earth's solar system went through some
>>>> gigantic cosmic replicator (or something like that), resulting in that
>>>> Earth duplicate in 'Miri'.
>>>
>>> THE SHAT got into it a little bit in his Trek books. The big problem
>>> and inescapable conclusion is that given that the Miri world is like 100
>>> years older than Earth, there's just no way that Earth is the original!
>>
>> Say what?
>> One hundred years is pretty insignificant compared to the age of a planet.
>
> But the Miri civilization was identical to 1960s Mayberry, and yet dated
> from a hundred years earlier. So it was there first.

Oh, you weren't talking about the age of the planet.

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Re: Star Trek: Discovery star replies to show's racist critics [message #394311 is a reply to message #394308] Fri, 30 June 2017 15:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Op 30-6-2017 om 21:43 schreef anim8rfsk:
> In article <oj68ol$p1s$1@dont-email.me>,
> "Jim G." <jimgysin@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Wouter Valentijn sent the following on 06/30/2017 at 06:54 AM:
>>> Op 29-6-2017 om 21:56 schreef Jim G.:
>>>> Wouter Valentijn sent the following on 06/28/2017 at 12:39 PM:
>>>> > Op 27-6-2017 om 22:10 schreef Jim G.:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> So I've learned. Frankly, it's probably a good thing since the
>>>> >> alternative would have been a bit much on the Kirk-as-Romeo front. In
>>>> >> any case, I now know that Ruth wasn't the love of Kirk's life after all.
>>>> >> Unless the love of his life changed from year to year. :)
>>>> >>
>>>> > Or Areel Shaw, or Janet Wallace also from the past and during TOS Edith
>>>> > Keeler, Miramanee, Rayna Kapec.
>>>>
>>>> The concept of "love of Kirk's life" was clearly a fluid thing. :)
>>>
>>> And there were fluids involved. Specially with Miramanee.
>>
>> And Dr. Marcus. Apparently birth control isn't much of a thing in the
>> future. Either that, or James T.'s swimmers are particularly robust.
>
> Getting preggers with a idjiot son might have been part of the campaign
> Gary Mitchell planned out for her.
>

Are you saying Gary was evil /before/ he got his powers?

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Re: Star Trek: Discovery star replies to show's racist critics [message #394317 is a reply to message #394302] Fri, 30 June 2017 16:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: A Friend

In article <anim8rfsk-06B319.07004630062017@news.easynews.com>,
anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

> Same thing for the duplicate civilization in THE OMEGA GLORY. There was
> no mention of identical land masses, but if Tracey was right, the good
> guys lost a war the the Godless commies more than a thousand years
> before, so it's identical civilization is way older than the Miri world,
> much less Earth.


"Omega Glory" is the only Trek episode that was written top to toe by
Gene Roddenberry, from his own idea, without any rewriting by anybody.
And it shows.
Re: Star Trek: Discovery star replies to show's racist critics [message #394318 is a reply to message #394311] Fri, 30 June 2017 18:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In article <5956ad8f$0$777$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>,
Wouter Valentijn <liam@valentijn.nu> wrote:

> Op 30-6-2017 om 21:43 schreef anim8rfsk:
>> In article <oj68ol$p1s$1@dont-email.me>,
>> "Jim G." <jimgysin@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> Wouter Valentijn sent the following on 06/30/2017 at 06:54 AM:
>>>> Op 29-6-2017 om 21:56 schreef Jim G.:
>>>> > Wouter Valentijn sent the following on 06/28/2017 at 12:39 PM:
>>>> >> Op 27-6-2017 om 22:10 schreef Jim G.:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> So I've learned. Frankly, it's probably a good thing since the
>>>> >>> alternative would have been a bit much on the Kirk-as-Romeo front. In
>>>> >>> any case, I now know that Ruth wasn't the love of Kirk's life after
>>>> >>> all.
>>>> >>> Unless the love of his life changed from year to year. :)
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> Or Areel Shaw, or Janet Wallace also from the past and during TOS Edith
>>>> >> Keeler, Miramanee, Rayna Kapec.
>>>> >
>>>> > The concept of "love of Kirk's life" was clearly a fluid thing. :)
>>>>
>>>> And there were fluids involved. Specially with Miramanee.
>>>
>>> And Dr. Marcus. Apparently birth control isn't much of a thing in the
>>> future. Either that, or James T.'s swimmers are particularly robust.
>>
>> Getting preggers with a idjiot son might have been part of the campaign
>> Gary Mitchell planned out for her.
>>
>
> Are you saying Gary was evil /before/ he got his powers?

Yes. Yes, I am.

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Re: Star Trek: Discovery star replies to show's racist critics [message #394319 is a reply to message #394318] Fri, 30 June 2017 18:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In article <anim8rfsk-AC8834.15081630062017@news.easynews.com>,
anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

> In article <5956ad8f$0$777$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>,
> Wouter Valentijn <liam@valentijn.nu> wrote:
>
>> Op 30-6-2017 om 21:43 schreef anim8rfsk:
>>> In article <oj68ol$p1s$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> "Jim G." <jimgysin@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wouter Valentijn sent the following on 06/30/2017 at 06:54 AM:
>>>> > Op 29-6-2017 om 21:56 schreef Jim G.:
>>>> >> Wouter Valentijn sent the following on 06/28/2017 at 12:39 PM:
>>>> >>> Op 27-6-2017 om 22:10 schreef Jim G.:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> So I've learned. Frankly, it's probably a good thing since the
>>>> >>>> alternative would have been a bit much on the Kirk-as-Romeo front. In
>>>> >>>> any case, I now know that Ruth wasn't the love of Kirk's life after
>>>> >>>> all.
>>>> >>>> Unless the love of his life changed from year to year. :)
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>> Or Areel Shaw, or Janet Wallace also from the past and during TOS
>>>> >>> Edith
>>>> >>> Keeler, Miramanee, Rayna Kapec.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> The concept of "love of Kirk's life" was clearly a fluid thing. :)
>>>> >
>>>> > And there were fluids involved. Specially with Miramanee.
>>>>
>>>> And Dr. Marcus. Apparently birth control isn't much of a thing in the
>>>> future. Either that, or James T.'s swimmers are particularly robust.
>>>
>>> Getting preggers with a idjiot son might have been part of the campaign
>>> Gary Mitchell planned out for her.
>>>
>>
>> Are you saying Gary was evil /before/ he got his powers?
>
> Yes. Yes, I am.


He must have been evil, since Mitchell had been Kirk's best friend
since their Academy days, yet he is never mentioned (or apparently even
thought of) ever again.
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In article <300620171829141071%nope@noway.com>,
A Friend <nope@noway.com> wrote:

> In article <anim8rfsk-AC8834.15081630062017@news.easynews.com>,
> anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> In article <5956ad8f$0$777$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>,
>> Wouter Valentijn <liam@valentijn.nu> wrote:
>>
>>> Op 30-6-2017 om 21:43 schreef anim8rfsk:
>>>> In article <oj68ol$p1s$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>> "Jim G." <jimgysin@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Wouter Valentijn sent the following on 06/30/2017 at 06:54 AM:
>>>> >> Op 29-6-2017 om 21:56 schreef Jim G.:
>>>> >>> Wouter Valentijn sent the following on 06/28/2017 at 12:39 PM:
>>>> >>>> Op 27-6-2017 om 22:10 schreef Jim G.:
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> So I've learned. Frankly, it's probably a good thing since the
>>>> >>>>> alternative would have been a bit much on the Kirk-as-Romeo front.
>>>> >>>>> In
>>>> >>>>> any case, I now know that Ruth wasn't the love of Kirk's life
>>>> >>>>> after
>>>> >>>>> all.
>>>> >>>>> Unless the love of his life changed from year to year. :)
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>> Or Areel Shaw, or Janet Wallace also from the past and during TOS
>>>> >>>> Edith
>>>> >>>> Keeler, Miramanee, Rayna Kapec.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> The concept of "love of Kirk's life" was clearly a fluid thing. :)
>>>> >>
>>>> >> And there were fluids involved. Specially with Miramanee.
>>>> >
>>>> > And Dr. Marcus. Apparently birth control isn't much of a thing in the
>>>> > future. Either that, or James T.'s swimmers are particularly robust.
>>>>
>>>> Getting preggers with a idjiot son might have been part of the campaign
>>>> Gary Mitchell planned out for her.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Are you saying Gary was evil /before/ he got his powers?
>>
>> Yes. Yes, I am.
>
>
> He must have been evil, since Mitchell had been Kirk's best friend
> since their Academy days, yet he is never mentioned (or apparently even
> thought of) ever again.

Plus he didn't even know what Kirk's middle name was. How do you forget
something like 'Tiberius'?

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Re: Star Trek: Discovery star replies to show's racist critics [message #394321 is a reply to message #394308] Fri, 30 June 2017 20:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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anim8rfsk sent the following on 06/30/2017 at 02:43 PM:
> In article <oj68ol$p1s$1@dont-email.me>,
> "Jim G." <jimgysin@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Wouter Valentijn sent the following on 06/30/2017 at 06:54 AM:
>>> Op 29-6-2017 om 21:56 schreef Jim G.:
>>>> Wouter Valentijn sent the following on 06/28/2017 at 12:39 PM:
>>>> > Op 27-6-2017 om 22:10 schreef Jim G.:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> So I've learned. Frankly, it's probably a good thing since the
>>>> >> alternative would have been a bit much on the Kirk-as-Romeo front. In
>>>> >> any case, I now know that Ruth wasn't the love of Kirk's life after all.
>>>> >> Unless the love of his life changed from year to year. :)
>>>> >>
>>>> > Or Areel Shaw, or Janet Wallace also from the past and during TOS Edith
>>>> > Keeler, Miramanee, Rayna Kapec.
>>>>
>>>> The concept of "love of Kirk's life" was clearly a fluid thing. :)
>>>
>>> And there were fluids involved. Specially with Miramanee.
>>
>> And Dr. Marcus. Apparently birth control isn't much of a thing in the
>> future. Either that, or James T.'s swimmers are particularly robust.
>
> Getting preggers with a idjiot son might have been part of the campaign
> Gary Mitchell planned out for her.

So Gary was poking holes in Kirk's Starfleet-issued condoms while
keeping him well stocked with the latest in smooth jazz? What a bastage. :)

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Re: Star Trek: Discovery star replies to show's racist critics [message #394322 is a reply to message #394309] Fri, 30 June 2017 20:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dimensional Traveler sent the following on 06/30/2017 at 02:49 PM:
> On 6/30/2017 12:36 PM, Jim G. wrote:
>> Jim G. sent the following on 06/30/2017 at 02:33 PM:
>>> Jerry Brown sent the following on 06/30/2017 at 12:18 PM:
>>>>
>>>> The novelisation claimed that Scotty was trying to get Preston to
>>>> sickbay but the elevator screwed up due to damage during Khan's
>>>> attack.
>>>
>>> That would have been a nice thing to see, too. It just seems unfortunate
>>> that, like the transporter business, a minute or two of time spent on
>>> the pretty light shows couldn't have been used for this sort of
>>> explanation instead.
>>
>> And yes, I'm sorta blurring my complaints about the first two movies,
>> but that's because there's a common theme to it: visuals are nice, but
>> not at the expense of head-scratching stuff that goes unexplained.
>>
> I think the studios view it as "if you can pay enough attention to the
> story to find head-scratching stuff to complain about, the visuals
> weren't doing their job."

I'm starting to think that you might have a cynical perspective on this
sort of thing. :)

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A Friend sent the following on 06/30/2017 at 05:29 PM:
> In article <anim8rfsk-AC8834.15081630062017@news.easynews.com>,
> anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> In article <5956ad8f$0$777$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>,
>> Wouter Valentijn <liam@valentijn.nu> wrote:
>>
>>> Op 30-6-2017 om 21:43 schreef anim8rfsk:
>>>>
>>>> Getting preggers with a idjiot son might have been part of the campaign
>>>> Gary Mitchell planned out for her.
>>>>
>>> Are you saying Gary was evil /before/ he got his powers?
>>
>> Yes. Yes, I am.
>
> He must have been evil, since Mitchell had been Kirk's best friend
> since their Academy days, yet he is never mentioned (or apparently even
> thought of) ever again.

Where Kirk is concerned, there doesn't seem to be a ton of longevity
when it comes to things like "best friend" and "love of his life."

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Re: Star Trek: Discovery star replies to show's racist critics [message #394324 is a reply to message #394322] Fri, 30 June 2017 20:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dimensional Traveler is currently offline  Dimensional Traveler
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On 6/30/2017 5:23 PM, Jim G. wrote:
> Dimensional Traveler sent the following on 06/30/2017 at 02:49 PM:
>> On 6/30/2017 12:36 PM, Jim G. wrote:
>>> Jim G. sent the following on 06/30/2017 at 02:33 PM:
>>>> Jerry Brown sent the following on 06/30/2017 at 12:18 PM:
>>>> >
>>>> > The novelisation claimed that Scotty was trying to get Preston to
>>>> > sickbay but the elevator screwed up due to damage during Khan's
>>>> > attack.
>>>>
>>>> That would have been a nice thing to see, too. It just seems
>>>> unfortunate
>>>> that, like the transporter business, a minute or two of time spent on
>>>> the pretty light shows couldn't have been used for this sort of
>>>> explanation instead.
>>>
>>> And yes, I'm sorta blurring my complaints about the first two movies,
>>> but that's because there's a common theme to it: visuals are nice, but
>>> not at the expense of head-scratching stuff that goes unexplained.
>>>
>> I think the studios view it as "if you can pay enough attention to the
>> story to find head-scratching stuff to complain about, the visuals
>> weren't doing their job."
>
> I'm starting to think that you might have a cynical perspective on this
> sort of thing. :)
>
You'd think that would keep me from being disappointed very often, yet
still I am.

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Re: Star Trek: Discovery star replies to show's racist critics [message #394325 is a reply to message #394321] Fri, 30 June 2017 21:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
anim8rFSK is currently offline  anim8rFSK
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In article <oj6ppr$dun$1@dont-email.me>,
"Jim G." <jimgysin@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:

> anim8rfsk sent the following on 06/30/2017 at 02:43 PM:
>> In article <oj68ol$p1s$1@dont-email.me>,
>> "Jim G." <jimgysin@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> Wouter Valentijn sent the following on 06/30/2017 at 06:54 AM:
>>>> Op 29-6-2017 om 21:56 schreef Jim G.:
>>>> > Wouter Valentijn sent the following on 06/28/2017 at 12:39 PM:
>>>> >> Op 27-6-2017 om 22:10 schreef Jim G.:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> So I've learned. Frankly, it's probably a good thing since the
>>>> >>> alternative would have been a bit much on the Kirk-as-Romeo front. In
>>>> >>> any case, I now know that Ruth wasn't the love of Kirk's life after
>>>> >>> all.
>>>> >>> Unless the love of his life changed from year to year. :)
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> Or Areel Shaw, or Janet Wallace also from the past and during TOS Edith
>>>> >> Keeler, Miramanee, Rayna Kapec.
>>>> >
>>>> > The concept of "love of Kirk's life" was clearly a fluid thing. :)
>>>>
>>>> And there were fluids involved. Specially with Miramanee.
>>>
>>> And Dr. Marcus. Apparently birth control isn't much of a thing in the
>>> future. Either that, or James T.'s swimmers are particularly robust.
>>
>> Getting preggers with a idjiot son might have been part of the campaign
>> Gary Mitchell planned out for her.
>
> So Gary was poking holes in Kirk's Starfleet-issued condoms while
> keeping him well stocked with the latest in smooth jazz? What a bastage. :)

He could at least have fixed Kirk up with somebody that actually *liked*
Kirk.

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Re: Star Trek: Discovery star replies to show's racist critics [message #394337 is a reply to message #394320] Sat, 01 July 2017 09:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wouter Valentijn is currently offline  Wouter Valentijn
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Op 1-7-2017 om 02:08 schreef anim8rfsk:
> In article <300620171829141071%nope@noway.com>,
> A Friend <nope@noway.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <anim8rfsk-AC8834.15081630062017@news.easynews.com>,
>> anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> In article <5956ad8f$0$777$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>,
>>> Wouter Valentijn <liam@valentijn.nu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Op 30-6-2017 om 21:43 schreef anim8rfsk:
>>>> > In article <oj68ol$p1s$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>> > "Jim G." <jimgysin@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Wouter Valentijn sent the following on 06/30/2017 at 06:54 AM:
>>>> >>> Op 29-6-2017 om 21:56 schreef Jim G.:
>>>> >>>> Wouter Valentijn sent the following on 06/28/2017 at 12:39 PM:
>>>> >>>>> Op 27-6-2017 om 22:10 schreef Jim G.:
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> So I've learned. Frankly, it's probably a good thing since the
>>>> >>>>>> alternative would have been a bit much on the Kirk-as-Romeo front.
>>>> >>>>>> In
>>>> >>>>>> any case, I now know that Ruth wasn't the love of Kirk's life
>>>> >>>>>> after
>>>> >>>>>> all.
>>>> >>>>>> Unless the love of his life changed from year to year. :)
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Or Areel Shaw, or Janet Wallace also from the past and during TOS
>>>> >>>>> Edith
>>>> >>>>> Keeler, Miramanee, Rayna Kapec.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> The concept of "love of Kirk's life" was clearly a fluid thing. :)
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> And there were fluids involved. Specially with Miramanee.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> And Dr. Marcus. Apparently birth control isn't much of a thing in the
>>>> >> future. Either that, or James T.'s swimmers are particularly robust.
>>>> >
>>>> > Getting preggers with a idjiot son might have been part of the campaign
>>>> > Gary Mitchell planned out for her.
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> Are you saying Gary was evil /before/ he got his powers?
>>>
>>> Yes. Yes, I am.
>>
>>
>> He must have been evil, since Mitchell had been Kirk's best friend
>> since their Academy days, yet he is never mentioned (or apparently even
>> thought of) ever again.
>
> Plus he didn't even know what Kirk's middle name was. How do you forget
> something like 'Tiberius'?
>


Could be that he did know, but wanted to tease Kirk, who in the academy
was considered a 'walking stack of books' and very disciplined. Maybe
even 'robot' like in his eyes. Remember the 'R' that robots got in their
name in Asimov's robot novels?
Okay. Reaching now.

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Re: Star Trek: Discovery star replies to show's racist critics [message #394338 is a reply to message #394337] Sat, 01 July 2017 12:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
anim8rFSK is currently offline  anim8rFSK
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In article <5957aa8c$0$736$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>,
Wouter Valentijn <liam@valentijn.nu> wrote:

> Op 1-7-2017 om 02:08 schreef anim8rfsk:
>> In article <300620171829141071%nope@noway.com>,
>> A Friend <nope@noway.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In article <anim8rfsk-AC8834.15081630062017@news.easynews.com>,
>>> anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <5956ad8f$0$777$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>,
>>>> Wouter Valentijn <liam@valentijn.nu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Op 30-6-2017 om 21:43 schreef anim8rfsk:
>>>> >> In article <oj68ol$p1s$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>> >> "Jim G." <jimgysin@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> Wouter Valentijn sent the following on 06/30/2017 at 06:54 AM:
>>>> >>>> Op 29-6-2017 om 21:56 schreef Jim G.:
>>>> >>>>> Wouter Valentijn sent the following on 06/28/2017 at 12:39 PM:
>>>> >>>>>> Op 27-6-2017 om 22:10 schreef Jim G.:
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> So I've learned. Frankly, it's probably a good thing since the
>>>> >>>>>>> alternative would have been a bit much on the Kirk-as-Romeo front.
>>>> >>>>>>> In
>>>> >>>>>>> any case, I now know that Ruth wasn't the love of Kirk's life
>>>> >>>>>>> after
>>>> >>>>>>> all.
>>>> >>>>>>> Unless the love of his life changed from year to year. :)
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Or Areel Shaw, or Janet Wallace also from the past and during TOS
>>>> >>>>>> Edith
>>>> >>>>>> Keeler, Miramanee, Rayna Kapec.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> The concept of "love of Kirk's life" was clearly a fluid thing. :)
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> And there were fluids involved. Specially with Miramanee.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> And Dr. Marcus. Apparently birth control isn't much of a thing in the
>>>> >>> future. Either that, or James T.'s swimmers are particularly robust.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Getting preggers with a idjiot son might have been part of the campaign
>>>> >> Gary Mitchell planned out for her.
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> > Are you saying Gary was evil /before/ he got his powers?
>>>>
>>>> Yes. Yes, I am.
>>>
>>>
>>> He must have been evil, since Mitchell had been Kirk's best friend
>>> since their Academy days, yet he is never mentioned (or apparently even
>>> thought of) ever again.
>>
>> Plus he didn't even know what Kirk's middle name was. How do you forget
>> something like 'Tiberius'?
>>
>
>
> Could be that he did know, but wanted to tease Kirk, who in the academy
> was considered a 'walking stack of books' and very disciplined. Maybe
> even 'robot' like in his eyes. Remember the 'R' that robots got in their
> name in Asimov's robot novels?
> Okay. Reaching now.

hee hee

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Re: Star Trek: Discovery star replies to show's racist critics [message #394339 is a reply to message #394338] Sat, 01 July 2017 15:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: A Friend

In article <anim8rfsk-CFC0E4.09150501072017@news.easynews.com>,
anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

> In article <5957aa8c$0$736$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>,
> Wouter Valentijn <liam@valentijn.nu> wrote:
>
>> Op 1-7-2017 om 02:08 schreef anim8rfsk:

>>> Plus he didn't even know what Kirk's middle name was. How do you forget
>>> something like 'Tiberius'?
>>>
>> Could be that he did know, but wanted to tease Kirk, who in the academy
>> was considered a 'walking stack of books' and very disciplined. Maybe
>> even 'robot' like in his eyes. Remember the 'R' that robots got in their
>> name in Asimov's robot novels?
>> Okay. Reaching now.
>
> hee hee


Maybe it was something like Mitchell thinking, "I know there's an R in
it somewhere."

I expect the R. was supposed to stand for Roddenberry.
Re: Star Trek: Discovery star replies to show's racist critics [message #394341 is a reply to message #394324] Tue, 04 July 2017 15:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jim G. is currently offline  Jim G.
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Dimensional Traveler sent the following on 06/30/2017 at 07:28 PM:
> On 6/30/2017 5:23 PM, Jim G. wrote:
>> Dimensional Traveler sent the following on 06/30/2017 at 02:49 PM:
>>> On 6/30/2017 12:36 PM, Jim G. wrote:
>>>> Jim G. sent the following on 06/30/2017 at 02:33 PM:
>>>> > Jerry Brown sent the following on 06/30/2017 at 12:18 PM:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> The novelisation claimed that Scotty was trying to get Preston to
>>>> >> sickbay but the elevator screwed up due to damage during Khan's
>>>> >> attack.
>>>> >
>>>> > That would have been a nice thing to see, too. It just seems
>>>> > unfortunate
>>>> > that, like the transporter business, a minute or two of time spent on
>>>> > the pretty light shows couldn't have been used for this sort of
>>>> > explanation instead.
>>>>
>>>> And yes, I'm sorta blurring my complaints about the first two movies,
>>>> but that's because there's a common theme to it: visuals are nice, but
>>>> not at the expense of head-scratching stuff that goes unexplained.
>>>>
>>> I think the studios view it as "if you can pay enough attention to the
>>> story to find head-scratching stuff to complain about, the visuals
>>> weren't doing their job."
>>
>> I'm starting to think that you might have a cynical perspective on this
>> sort of thing. :)
>>
> You'd think that would keep me from being disappointed very often, yet
> still I am.

That's the sort of thing that should make you really disappointed with
yourself.

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Re: Star Trek: Discovery star replies to show's racist critics [message #394342 is a reply to message #394325] Tue, 04 July 2017 15:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jim G. is currently offline  Jim G.
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anim8rfsk sent the following on 06/30/2017 at 08:15 PM:
> In article <oj6ppr$dun$1@dont-email.me>,
> "Jim G." <jimgysin@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>> anim8rfsk sent the following on 06/30/2017 at 02:43 PM:
>>> In article <oj68ol$p1s$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> "Jim G." <jimgysin@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> And Dr. Marcus. Apparently birth control isn't much of a thing in the
>>>> future. Either that, or James T.'s swimmers are particularly robust.
>>>
>>> Getting preggers with a idjiot son might have been part of the campaign
>>> Gary Mitchell planned out for her.
>>
>> So Gary was poking holes in Kirk's Starfleet-issued condoms while
>> keeping him well stocked with the latest in smooth jazz? What a bastage. :)
>
> He could at least have fixed Kirk up with somebody that actually *liked*
> Kirk.

Well, she must have liked him well enough on *some* level. :)

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Re: Star Trek: Discovery star replies to show's racist critics [message #394343 is a reply to message #394341] Tue, 04 July 2017 17:14 Go to previous message
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On 7/4/2017 12:26 PM, Jim G. wrote:
> Dimensional Traveler sent the following on 06/30/2017 at 07:28 PM:
>> On 6/30/2017 5:23 PM, Jim G. wrote:
>>> Dimensional Traveler sent the following on 06/30/2017 at 02:49 PM:
>>>> On 6/30/2017 12:36 PM, Jim G. wrote:
>>>> > Jim G. sent the following on 06/30/2017 at 02:33 PM:
>>>> >> Jerry Brown sent the following on 06/30/2017 at 12:18 PM:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> The novelisation claimed that Scotty was trying to get Preston to
>>>> >>> sickbay but the elevator screwed up due to damage during Khan's
>>>> >>> attack.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> That would have been a nice thing to see, too. It just seems
>>>> >> unfortunate
>>>> >> that, like the transporter business, a minute or two of time spent on
>>>> >> the pretty light shows couldn't have been used for this sort of
>>>> >> explanation instead.
>>>> >
>>>> > And yes, I'm sorta blurring my complaints about the first two movies,
>>>> > but that's because there's a common theme to it: visuals are nice, but
>>>> > not at the expense of head-scratching stuff that goes unexplained.
>>>> >
>>>> I think the studios view it as "if you can pay enough attention to the
>>>> story to find head-scratching stuff to complain about, the visuals
>>>> weren't doing their job."
>>>
>>> I'm starting to think that you might have a cynical perspective on this
>>> sort of thing. :)
>>>
>> You'd think that would keep me from being disappointed very often, yet
>> still I am.
>
> That's the sort of thing that should make you really disappointed with
> yourself.
>
I'm cynical enough to accept my failings as a god.

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