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| Re: World's First Classical Chinese Programming Language [message #390768 is a reply to message #390766] |
Sat, 08 February 2020 16:39   |
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Originally posted by: Gareth Evans
On 08/02/2020 21:21, Bob Eager wrote:
> On Sat, 08 Feb 2020 21:18:26 +0000, Wang Chan wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 21:11:51 +0000 Gareth Evans <headstone255@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 07/02/2020 13:47, Peter Flass wrote:
>>>> Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> > World's First Classical Chinese Programming Language
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> Sorry, lost the url
>>>>
>>>> https://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/computing/software/class ical-
> chinese
>>>>
>>>>
>>> One's love affair with computer programming might become tarnished were
>>> one to spend too long on the above.
>>>
>>> ie, there would be a chink in the amour. :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> I hope you get coronavirus, you racist old cunt.
>
> With Gareth, racism is but the start...
>
Nothing racist there in terms of racism intending to foment
hatred, It's just a joke. It's a joke about race but not in itself racist.
In any case, it is common parlance in Brit to refer
to a chinese take-away as a chinky.
However, what is reprehensible in what is quoted above
is the cowardly infant hiding yellow-bellied behind
the moniker Wang Chan, a mmoniker that has not existed
anywhere on Usenet previously and was conceived
merely to express the abuse above; abuse that
Bob Eager so disgracefully continued.
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| Re: World's First Classical Chinese Programming Language [message #390769 is a reply to message #390768] |
Sat, 08 February 2020 17:15 |
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Originally posted by: Wang Chan
On Sat, 8 Feb 2020 21:39:01 +0000
Gareth Evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 08/02/2020 21:21, Bob Eager wrote:
>> On Sat, 08 Feb 2020 21:18:26 +0000, Wang Chan wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 21:11:51 +0000 Gareth Evans
>>> <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 07/02/2020 13:47, Peter Flass wrote:
>>>> > Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> >> World's First Classical Chinese Programming Language
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> > Sorry, lost the url
>>>> >
>>>> > https://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/computing/software/class ical-
>> chinese
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> One's love affair with computer programming might become
>>>> tarnished were one to spend too long on the above.
>>>>
>>>> ie, there would be a chink in the amour. :-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I hope you get coronavirus, you racist old cunt.
>>
>> With Gareth, racism is but the start...
>>
>
> Nothing racist there in terms of racism intending to foment
> hatred, It's just a joke. It's a joke about race but not in itself
> racist.
>
> In any case, it is common parlance in Brit to refer
> to a chinese take-away as a chinky.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinky
Stupid Boy!
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| Re: World's First Classical Chinese Programming Language [message #390770 is a reply to message #390769] |
Sat, 08 February 2020 18:59 |
Dan Espen
Messages: 3867
Registered: January 2012
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Wang Chan <wang@chan.invalid> writes:
> On Sat, 8 Feb 2020 21:39:01 +0000
> Gareth Evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On 08/02/2020 21:21, Bob Eager wrote:
>>> On Sat, 08 Feb 2020 21:18:26 +0000, Wang Chan wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 21:11:51 +0000 Gareth Evans
>>>> <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > On 07/02/2020 13:47, Peter Flass wrote:
>>>> >> Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> >>> World's First Classical Chinese Programming Language
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> Sorry, lost the url
>>>> >>
>>>> >> https://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/computing/software/class ical-
>>> chinese
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> > One's love affair with computer programming might become
>>>> > tarnished were one to spend too long on the above.
>>>> >
>>>> > ie, there would be a chink in the amour. :-)
>>>> >
>>>> I hope you get coronavirus, you racist old cunt.
>>>
>>> With Gareth, racism is but the start...
>>>
>>
>> Nothing racist there in terms of racism intending to foment
>> hatred, It's just a joke. It's a joke about race but not in itself
>> racist.
>>
>> In any case, it is common parlance in Brit to refer
>> to a chinese take-away as a chinky.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinky
That's very interesting, I'm in the USA and I've never heard the term
chinky, just the obviously abusive term chink. I also had no idea the
term was based on appearance, I thought it was a play on the country
"China".
Notice this sentence in the wiki:
Older and mainly white groups tend to think this is not usually used
in an abusive way.
> Stupid Boy!
A smart boy would seek forgiveness even if he didn't mean to insult.
--
Dan Espen
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| Re: World's First Classical Chinese Programming Language [message #390771 is a reply to message #390769] |
Sat, 08 February 2020 22:54 |
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Originally posted by: JimP
On Sat, 8 Feb 2020 22:15:42 +0000, Wang Chan <wang@chan.invalid>
wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Feb 2020 21:39:01 +0000
> Gareth Evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On 08/02/2020 21:21, Bob Eager wrote:
>>> On Sat, 08 Feb 2020 21:18:26 +0000, Wang Chan wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 21:11:51 +0000 Gareth Evans
>>>> <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > On 07/02/2020 13:47, Peter Flass wrote:
>>>> >> Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> >>> World's First Classical Chinese Programming Language
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> Sorry, lost the url
>>>> >>
>>>> >> https://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/computing/software/class ical-
>>> chinese
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> > One's love affair with computer programming might become
>>>> > tarnished were one to spend too long on the above.
>>>> >
>>>> > ie, there would be a chink in the amour. :-)
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> I hope you get coronavirus, you racist old cunt.
>>>
>>> With Gareth, racism is but the start...
>>>
>>
>> Nothing racist there in terms of racism intending to foment
>> hatred, It's just a joke. It's a joke about race but not in itself
>> racist.
>>
>> In any case, it is common parlance in Brit to refer
>> to a chinese take-away as a chinky.
>
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinky
>
>
> Stupid Boy!
So pathetic such a troll. If you don't like what someone says, filter
them in your newsreader. I'm filtering you.
By the way, not all of my ancestors are white.
--
Jim
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| Re: World's First Classical Chinese Programming Language [message #390772 is a reply to message #390768] |
Sun, 09 February 2020 02:48 |
Ahem A Rivet's Shot
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On Sat, 8 Feb 2020 21:39:01 +0000
Gareth Evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:
> In any case, it is common parlance in Brit to refer
> to a chinese take-away as a chinky.
An outgoing practice to be considered no more acceptable than
calling people with dark skin and curly hair wogs or referring to the
corner shop as a paki shop. All of these were common parlance in the UK
when we were children - none of them are acceptable today.
--
Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays
C:\>WIN | A better way to focus the sun
The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see
You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/
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| Re: World's First Classical Chinese Programming Language [message #390773 is a reply to message #390770] |
Sun, 09 February 2020 06:07 |
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Originally posted by: Gareth Evans
On 08/02/2020 23:59, Dan Espen wrote:
> Wang Chan <wang@chan.invalid> writes:
>
>> On Sat, 8 Feb 2020 21:39:01 +0000
>> Gareth Evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 08/02/2020 21:21, Bob Eager wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 08 Feb 2020 21:18:26 +0000, Wang Chan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 21:11:51 +0000 Gareth Evans
>>>> > <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> On 07/02/2020 13:47, Peter Flass wrote:
>>>> >>> Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>> World's First Classical Chinese Programming Language
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>> Sorry, lost the url
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> https://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/computing/software/class ical-
>>>> chinese
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> One's love affair with computer programming might become
>>>> >> tarnished were one to spend too long on the above.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> ie, there would be a chink in the amour. :-)
>>>> >>
>>>> > I hope you get coronavirus, you racist old cunt.
>>>>
>>>> With Gareth, racism is but the start...
>>>>
>>>
>>> Nothing racist there in terms of racism intending to foment
>>> hatred, It's just a joke. It's a joke about race but not in itself
>>> racist.
>>>
>>> In any case, it is common parlance in Brit to refer
>>> to a chinese take-away as a chinky.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinky
>
> That's very interesting, I'm in the USA and I've never heard the term
> chinky, just the obviously abusive term chink. I also had no idea the
> term was based on appearance, I thought it was a play on the country
> "China".
>
> Notice this sentence in the wiki:
>
> Older and mainly white groups tend to think this is not usually used
> in an abusive way.
>
>> Stupid Boy!
>
> A smart boy would seek forgiveness even if he didn't mean to insult.
>
There was no insult because Wang Chan is a sock puppet of one
of the infantile undesirables from uk.radio.amateur, either
CB0TEY or she who signs as Bernie, both of whom use every opportunity to
stalk me wherever I appear on Usenet.
Both are foul-mouthed childish individuals who are out
of place in an international discussion forum.
There are many idiomatic nicknames for groups
of "other" people, none of which are intended
to instil hatred or offence.
We of Welsh attraction are referred to as Taffies
you Americans as Yanks, the Scotch as Jocks, Newcastle
residents as either Geordies or Mackems, Liverpudlians
as Scousers.
That my original comment was a play on the phrase
"a chink in the armour", akin to an Achilles Heel
was irrelevant and possibly whooshing over the head
of Wang Chan" whose own remarks was grossly offensive
in itself.
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| Re: World's First Classical Chinese Programming Language [message #390776 is a reply to message #390775] |
Sun, 09 February 2020 08:37 |
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Originally posted by: Gareth Evans
On 09/02/2020 12:06, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 11:07:46 +0000
> Gareth Evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> There are many idiomatic nicknames for groups
>> of "other" people, none of which are intended
>> to instil hatred or offence.
>
> However chink is not one of them.
>
Yes it is. I've never used it other than
as an idiomatic nickname. Perhaps the problem
today lies with the so-called Snowflake generation
who almost seem to be professional offence-takers
instead of being robust adults. It simply is not
possible to be taking offence on behalf of
somebody else.
If you object to the use of a word to identify
a group of people distinct from the population
as a whole then you must object to
the word, "Chinese" as well.
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| Re: World's First Classical Chinese Programming Language [message #390777 is a reply to message #390771] |
Sun, 09 February 2020 11:05 |
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Originally posted by: Wang Chan
On Sat, 08 Feb 2020 21:54:01 -0600
JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Feb 2020 22:15:42 +0000, Wang Chan <wang@chan.invalid>
> wrote:
>> On Sat, 8 Feb 2020 21:39:01 +0000
>> Gareth Evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 08/02/2020 21:21, Bob Eager wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 08 Feb 2020 21:18:26 +0000, Wang Chan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 21:11:51 +0000 Gareth Evans
>>>> > <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> On 07/02/2020 13:47, Peter Flass wrote:
>>>> >>> Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>> World's First Classical Chinese Programming Language
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>> Sorry, lost the url
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> https://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/computing/software/class ical-
>>>> chinese
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> One's love affair with computer programming might become
>>>> >> tarnished were one to spend too long on the above.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> ie, there would be a chink in the amour. :-)
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> > I hope you get coronavirus, you racist old cunt.
>>>>
>>>> With Gareth, racism is but the start...
>>>>
>>>
>>> Nothing racist there in terms of racism intending to foment
>>> hatred, It's just a joke. It's a joke about race but not in itself
>>> racist.
>>>
>>> In any case, it is common parlance in Brit to refer
>>> to a chinese take-away as a chinky.
>>
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinky
>>
>>
>> Stupid Boy!
>
> So pathetic such a troll. If you don't like what someone says, filter
> them in your newsreader. I'm filtering you.
Please don't filter me, Jim - I'm not sure I could bear it.
> By the way, not all of my ancestors are white.
Go back far enough and far from all of my ancestors are human.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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| Re: World's First Classical Chinese Programming Language [message #390778 is a reply to message #390776] |
Sun, 09 February 2020 11:06 |
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Originally posted by: Wang Chan
On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 13:37:24 +0000
Gareth Evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 09/02/2020 12:06, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>> On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 11:07:46 +0000
>> Gareth Evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> There are many idiomatic nicknames for groups
>>> of "other" people, none of which are intended
>>> to instil hatred or offence.
>>
>> However chink is not one of them.
>>
>
> Yes it is. I've never used it other than
> as an idiomatic nickname. Perhaps the problem
> today lies with the so-called Snowflake generation
> who almost seem to be professional offence-takers
> instead of being robust adults. It simply is not
> possible to be taking offence on behalf of
> somebody else.
Gareth Evans testified under oath:
“If he was teaching a class and a child had the surname of Williams or
Jones, something racist may slip out as it has done when he discusses
the Welsh on the forum.”
Hmm...
What if a Chinese child were to read your racist slurs, Gareth?
Do as I say, not as I do?
Stupid Boy!
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| Re: World's First Classical Chinese Programming Language [message #390779 is a reply to message #390773] |
Sun, 09 February 2020 12:35 |
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Originally posted by: Welsh Whisperer
On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 11:07:46 +0000
Gareth Evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 08/02/2020 23:59, Dan Espen wrote:
>> Wang Chan <wang@chan.invalid> writes:
>>
>>> On Sat, 8 Feb 2020 21:39:01 +0000
>>> Gareth Evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 08/02/2020 21:21, Bob Eager wrote:
>>>> > On Sat, 08 Feb 2020 21:18:26 +0000, Wang Chan wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 21:11:51 +0000 Gareth Evans
>>>> >> <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> On 07/02/2020 13:47, Peter Flass wrote:
>>>> >>>> Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>>> World's First Classical Chinese Programming Language
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>> Sorry, lost the url
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> https://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/computing/software/class ical-
>>>> > chinese
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>> One's love affair with computer programming might become
>>>> >>> tarnished were one to spend too long on the above.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> ie, there would be a chink in the amour. :-)
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> I hope you get coronavirus, you racist old cunt.
>>>> >
>>>> > With Gareth, racism is but the start...
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> Nothing racist there in terms of racism intending to foment
>>>> hatred, It's just a joke. It's a joke about race but not in itself
>>>> racist.
>>>>
>>>> In any case, it is common parlance in Brit to refer
>>>> to a chinese take-away as a chinky.
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinky
>>
>> That's very interesting, I'm in the USA and I've never heard the
>> term chinky, just the obviously abusive term chink. I also had no
>> idea the term was based on appearance, I thought it was a play on
>> the country "China".
>>
>> Notice this sentence in the wiki:
>>
>> Older and mainly white groups tend to think this is not usually
>> used in an abusive way.
>>
>>> Stupid Boy!
>>
>> A smart boy would seek forgiveness even if he didn't mean to insult.
>>
>
> There was no insult because Wang Chan is a sock puppet of one
> of the infantile undesirables from uk.radio.amateur, either
> CB0TEY or she who signs as Bernie, both of whom use every opportunity
> to stalk me wherever I appear on Usenet.
>
> Both are foul-mouthed childish individuals who are out
> of place in an international discussion forum.
>
> There are many idiomatic nicknames for groups
> of "other" people, none of which are intended
> to instil hatred or offence.
>
> We of Welsh attraction are referred to as Taffies
> you Americans as Yanks, the Scotch as Jocks, Newcastle
> residents as either Geordies or Mackems, Liverpudlians
> as Scousers.
>
> That my original comment was a play on the phrase
> "a chink in the armour", akin to an Achilles Heel
> was irrelevant and possibly whooshing over the head
> of Wang Chan" whose own remarks was grossly offensive
> in itself.
>
Mae Gareth wedi cachu'r gwely.
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| Re: World's First Classical Chinese Programming Language [message #390780 is a reply to message #390774] |
Sun, 09 February 2020 12:40 |
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Originally posted by: JimP
On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 11:30:30 +0000, Gareth Evans
<headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 09/02/2020 03:54, JimP wrote:
>>
>> By the way, not all of my ancestors are white.
>
> Current scientific research suggests that
> WE ALL are descended from the Ethiopian
> Rift Valley residents and therefore if any Brit
> paper requires me to declare my racial
> origins I always opt for Black African.
I opt for '2 or more races'. At my last job, I had to go see someone,
she asked me what the second race was, I look rather white, and she
noted she could tell I'm Native American. She is also Native American.
As for the Rift Valley, that was several million years ago.
--
Jim
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| Re: World's First Classical Chinese Programming Language [message #390781 is a reply to message #390780] |
Sun, 09 February 2020 21:26 |
Peter Flass
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JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 11:30:30 +0000, Gareth Evans
> <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On 09/02/2020 03:54, JimP wrote:
>>>
>>> By the way, not all of my ancestors are white.
>>
>> Current scientific research suggests that
>> WE ALL are descended from the Ethiopian
>> Rift Valley residents and therefore if any Brit
>> paper requires me to declare my racial
>> origins I always opt for Black African.
>
> I opt for '2 or more races'. At my last job, I had to go see someone,
> she asked me what the second race was, I look rather white, and she
> noted she could tell I'm Native American. She is also Native American.
>
> As for the Rift Valley, that was several million years ago.
>
What the heck happened to this thread? I thought I was just posting a
simple article that some might find interesting.
--
Pete
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| Re: World's First Classical Chinese Programming Language [message #390784 is a reply to message #390781] |
Mon, 10 February 2020 02:36 |
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Originally posted by: J. Clarke
On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 19:26:12 -0700, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 11:30:30 +0000, Gareth Evans
>> <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On 09/02/2020 03:54, JimP wrote:
>>>>
>>>> By the way, not all of my ancestors are white.
>>>
>>> Current scientific research suggests that
>>> WE ALL are descended from the Ethiopian
>>> Rift Valley residents and therefore if any Brit
>>> paper requires me to declare my racial
>>> origins I always opt for Black African.
>>
>> I opt for '2 or more races'. At my last job, I had to go see someone,
>> she asked me what the second race was, I look rather white, and she
>> noted she could tell I'm Native American. She is also Native American.
>>
>> As for the Rift Valley, that was several million years ago.
>>
>
> What the heck happened to this thread? I thought I was just posting a
> simple article that some might find interesting.
Gareth happened. And then "Wang Chan" (probably a sock puppet)
appeared out of nowhwere to engage.
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| Re: World's First Classical Chinese Programming Language [message #390785 is a reply to message #390781] |
Mon, 10 February 2020 05:13 |
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Originally posted by: Gareth Evans
On 10/02/2020 02:26, Peter Flass wrote:
> JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 11:30:30 +0000, Gareth Evans
>> <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On 09/02/2020 03:54, JimP wrote:
>>>>
>>>> By the way, not all of my ancestors are white.
>>>
>>> Current scientific research suggests that
>>> WE ALL are descended from the Ethiopian
>>> Rift Valley residents and therefore if any Brit
>>> paper requires me to declare my racial
>>> origins I always opt for Black African.
>>
>> I opt for '2 or more races'. At my last job, I had to go see someone,
>> she asked me what the second race was, I look rather white, and she
>> noted she could tell I'm Native American. She is also Native American.
>>
>> As for the Rift Valley, that was several million years ago.
>>
>
> What the heck happened to this thread? I thought I was just posting a
> simple article that some might find interesting.
>
.... and then I ventured a humorous comment but those lacking a
sense of humour (or not intelligent enough to recognise the
jest) went ape-shit
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| Re: World's First Classical Chinese Programming Language [message #390786 is a reply to message #390784] |
Mon, 10 February 2020 05:16 |
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Originally posted by: Gareth Evans
On 10/02/2020 07:36, J. Clarke wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 19:26:12 -0700, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>> JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 11:30:30 +0000, Gareth Evans
>>> <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> On 09/02/2020 03:54, JimP wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > By the way, not all of my ancestors are white.
>>>>
>>>> Current scientific research suggests that
>>>> WE ALL are descended from the Ethiopian
>>>> Rift Valley residents and therefore if any Brit
>>>> paper requires me to declare my racial
>>>> origins I always opt for Black African.
>>>
>>> I opt for '2 or more races'. At my last job, I had to go see someone,
>>> she asked me what the second race was, I look rather white, and she
>>> noted she could tell I'm Native American. She is also Native American.
>>>
>>> As for the Rift Valley, that was several million years ago.
>>>
>>
>> What the heck happened to this thread? I thought I was just posting a
>> simple article that some might find interesting.
>
> Gareth happened. And then "Wang Chan" (probably a sock puppet)
> appeared out of nowhwere to engage.
>
Experience of this NG suggests that J Clarke happening is
a sight more disastrous than Gareth happening?
Those infantile indescribables who stalk me are hardly
out of nowhere; they're snapping arond my heels all
the time :-(
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| Re: World's First Classical Chinese Programming Language [message #390789 is a reply to message #390788] |
Mon, 10 February 2020 11:16 |
Charlie Gibbs
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On 2020-02-10, Gareth Evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 10/02/2020 11:50, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 10 Feb 2020 10:13:44 +0000
>> Gareth Evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> ... and then I ventured a humorous comment but those lacking a
>>> sense of humour (or not intelligent enough to recognise the
>>> jest) went ape-shit
>>
>> Nope, just pointed out that your jest was in bad taste and likely
>> to be offensive.
>
> Not so.
Offensive is in the eye of the beholder.
--
/~\ Charlie Gibbs | Microsoft is a dictatorship.
\ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | Apple is a cult.
X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | Linux is anarchy.
/ \ if you read it the right way. | Pick your poison.
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| Re: World's First Classical Chinese Programming Language [message #390790 is a reply to message #390783] |
Mon, 10 February 2020 12:22 |
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Originally posted by: Andy Walker
On 10/02/2020 05:12, Rob Doyle wrote:
> Am I dreaming or have I seen a French Fortran compiler that had
> 'faire' loops?
When I was a research student and a friend was on holiday in
France, we doctored "his" compiler so that all the key words and error
messages were in French. Atlas Autocode had "cycle" loops, which we
translated as "velo".
--
Andy Walker,
Nottingham.
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| Re: World's First Classical Chinese Programming Language [message #390792 is a reply to message #390783] |
Mon, 10 February 2020 13:33 |
Quadibloc
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On Sunday, February 9, 2020 at 10:12:54 PM UTC-7, Rob Doyle wrote:
> Am I dreaming or have I seen a French Fortran compiler that had 'faire'
> loops?
I remember, long ago, reading about a compiler where the keywords were in Arabic,
used in Iraq. But the programmers didn't like it, they felt it made their skills
less prestigious or less transferable.
John Savard
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| Re: World's First Classical Chinese Programming Language [message #390793 is a reply to message #390760] |
Mon, 10 February 2020 13:39 |
Quadibloc
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On Friday, February 7, 2020 at 6:47:25 AM UTC-7, Peter Flass wrote:
> Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> World's First Classical Chinese Programming Language
> Sorry, lost the url
> https://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/computing/software/class ical-chinese
It is somewhat misnamed.
Being in wenyan, it is not only a Chinese-language compiler, but one in classical _style_. Wenyan is _still_ what they use in Hong Kong to write books, magazines, and newspapers.
Classical Chinese, on the other hand, is what you use a copy of the Dai Kan-wa
Jiten by Morohashi to read.
John Savard
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| Re: World's First Classical Chinese Programming Language [message #390795 is a reply to message #390791] |
Mon, 10 February 2020 13:42 |
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Originally posted by: Gareth Evans
On 10/02/2020 18:31, Quadibloc wrote:
> On Monday, February 10, 2020 at 7:00:35 AM UTC-7, Gareth Evans wrote:
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>> Not so.
>
> Yes, it was. I don't know what planet you live on, but the term you used is now
> considered a highly offensive racial slur
It has never been so in my experience.
And, in any case, there has been absolutely nobody reading this group
who has been offended and therefore the jest has not been
offensive to anybody!
Why not just enjoy the jest instead of creating an OT
mountain out of a molehill?
The old expression "A chink in the armour" has nothing to do with the
chinese in any case. And, in case it was lost on you,
I used the word, "amour" as a reference to a love affair.
But, if you are concerned about giving offence, then I
suggest that you do not use such phraseology as, "I don't
know what planet you live on" lest you present yourself
as a hypocrite.
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| Re: World's First Classical Chinese Programming Language [message #390801 is a reply to message #390772] |
Tue, 11 February 2020 00:30 |
usenet
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On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 07:48:59 +0000, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net>
wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Feb 2020 21:39:01 +0000
> Gareth Evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> In any case, it is common parlance in Brit to refer
>> to a chinese take-away as a chinky.
>
> An outgoing practice to be considered no more acceptable than
> calling people with dark skin and curly hair wogs or referring to the
> corner shop as a paki shop. All of these were common parlance in the UK
> when we were children - none of them are acceptable today.
Although it's been more than a few years since I lived in New England, at the
time a "packie" (note spelling) was slang for a package store, typically a small
convenience store that primarily sells liquor and where one often bought snacks
and "beah." Dunno about Rightpondia, but here it had nothing to do with the
ethnicity of the proprietor.
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| Re: World's First Classical Chinese Programming Language [message #390802 is a reply to message #390781] |
Tue, 11 February 2020 03:23 |
Jim
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On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 19:26:12 -0700
Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
> JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 11:30:30 +0000, Gareth Evans
>> <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On 09/02/2020 03:54, JimP wrote:
>>>>
>>>> By the way, not all of my ancestors are white.
>>>
>>> Current scientific research suggests that
>>> WE ALL are descended from the Ethiopian
>>> Rift Valley residents and therefore if any Brit
>>> paper requires me to declare my racial
>>> origins I always opt for Black African.
>>
>> I opt for '2 or more races'. At my last job, I had to go see
>> someone, she asked me what the second race was, I look rather
>> white, and she noted she could tell I'm Native American. She is
>> also Native American.
>>
>> As for the Rift Valley, that was several million years ago.
>>
>
> What the heck happened to this thread? I thought I was just posting a
> simple article that some might find interesting.
>
Gareth decided to tell a dimwitted racist 'joke', and dug deeper when
the situation was explained to him.
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| Re: World's First Classical Chinese Programming Language [message #390803 is a reply to message #390802] |
Tue, 11 February 2020 03:50 |
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Originally posted by: Gareth Evans
On 11/02/2020 08:23, Jim wrote:
> Gareth decided to tell a dimwitted racist 'joke', and dug deeper when
> the situation was explained to him.
The only person trying to be offensive in an infantile manner is you,
above. I have not dug deeper but have maintained
my stance in the use of an informal term of reference for
one people, no different to the use of the term Yanks to
describe the Americans.
It's been an OT side issue which has really been promulgated
for far too long, but it has revealed that there are several
schools of thought here.
Firstly there are those who not only regard the disputed word
as racist, but, strangely, promote the use of the word as racist.
Secondly, there are those of us who have never experienced the
word as being racist but merely as an informal idiom for one
section of the human race (the only race!) and who use it as
a term of endearment when suggesting as a take-away meal,
"going for a chinky".
Thirdly there are those who complain about giving offence but
do so hypocritically by gratuitous offence such as Jim quoted
above.
Fourthly there are those who originate gratuitous offence
such as Bob Eager.
Fifthly there are those, snowflakes, who say that you
should never cause offence but do not realise that there
are always two sides to any discussion.
Sixthly, there are those of us with an open mind who
recognise that a joke can be made about any subject
and that a joke about racial characteristics is not racist;
where racism is intended to instil hatred. The Yanks,
for instance, use the Poles as the butt of many of their jokes
but it is always good-humoured.
'nuff said?
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| Re: World's First Classical Chinese Programming Language [message #390804 is a reply to message #390803] |
Tue, 11 February 2020 04:04 |
Ahem A Rivet's Shot
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On Tue, 11 Feb 2020 08:50:54 +0000
Gareth Evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:
> The only person trying to be offensive in an infantile manner is you,
> above. I have not dug deeper but have maintained
> my stance in the use of an informal term of reference for
> one people, no different to the use of the term Yanks to
> describe the Americans.
You seem to fail to notice that nobody is agreeing with you,
reflect on that for a while.
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| Re: World's First Classical Chinese Programming Language [message #390805 is a reply to message #390804] |
Tue, 11 February 2020 05:54 |
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Originally posted by: Gareth Evans
On 11/02/2020 09:04, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Feb 2020 08:50:54 +0000
> Gareth Evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> The only person trying to be offensive in an infantile manner is you,
>> above. I have not dug deeper but have maintained
>> my stance in the use of an informal term of reference for
>> one people, no different to the use of the term Yanks to
>> describe the Americans.
>
> You seem to fail to notice that nobody is agreeing with you,
> reflect on that for a while.
>
Irrelevant.
It would appear that there are two differing attitudes towards
the word; those who use it to promote racial hatred, (you
appear to want to be in that camp) and those
who have never used it so and who use it as an informal idiom.
I am in the latter camp as I used it informally and with no
intention whatsover of instilling racial hatred. I have good
relations with the staff of my local outlet, Pewsham Chinese Kitchen,
and when I worked at Knorr Bremse I was alongside
other software engineers who were Chinese.
I am not racially prejudiced and it is a mistake, probably
bigoted, on the part of those who do not or cannot understand
that there are two differing attitudes to the word under
dispute to claim that I am.
People differ, opinions differ.
Take the word, "Pajero"; I think it is Mitsubishi who use it
as a brand name for a 4X4 vehicle whereas the Portuguese
ISTR use it to mean "wanker". Two different attitudes
towards the same word.
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| Re: World's First Classical Chinese Programming Language [message #390807 is a reply to message #390806] |
Tue, 11 February 2020 11:10 |
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Originally posted by: Bob Eager
On Tue, 11 Feb 2020 15:49:56 +0000, Welsh Whisperer wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Feb 2020 10:54:28 +0000 Gareth Evans <headstone255@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>> Take the word, "Pajero"; I think it is Mitsubishi who use it as a brand
>> name for a 4X4 vehicle whereas the Portuguese ISTR use it to mean
>> "wanker". Two different attitudes towards the same word.
>>
>>
>>
> Yes, and the word 'moron'; in English some unkind people might apply the
> word to you, but in Welsh it would mean 'carrot'.
Well, a similar IQ in both cases. I think a 'Gareth' rates lower.
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Use the BIG mirror service in the UK:
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| Re: World's First Classical Chinese Programming Language [message #390808 is a reply to message #390803] |
Tue, 11 February 2020 11:21 |
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Originally posted by: JimP
On Tue, 11 Feb 2020 08:50:54 +0000, Gareth Evans
<headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 11/02/2020 08:23, Jim wrote:
>> Gareth decided to tell a dimwitted racist 'joke', and dug deeper when
>> the situation was explained to him.
>
> The only person trying to be offensive in an infantile manner is you,
> above. I have not dug deeper but have maintained
> my stance in the use of an informal term of reference for
> one people, no different to the use of the term Yanks to
> describe the Americans.
If you reply to a troll who is trolling you the troll will continue to
troll.
--
Jim
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| Re: World's First Classical Chinese Programming Language [message #390810 is a reply to message #390807] |
Tue, 11 February 2020 13:25 |
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Originally posted by: Gareth Evans
On 11/02/2020 16:10, Bob Eager wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Feb 2020 15:49:56 +0000, Welsh Whisperer wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 11 Feb 2020 10:54:28 +0000 Gareth Evans <headstone255@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Take the word, "Pajero"; I think it is Mitsubishi who use it as a brand
>>> name for a 4X4 vehicle whereas the Portuguese ISTR use it to mean
>>> "wanker". Two different attitudes towards the same word.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Yes, and the word 'moron'; in English some unkind people might apply the
>> word to you, but in Welsh it would mean 'carrot'.
>
> Well, a similar IQ in both cases. I think a 'Gareth' rates lower.
I refer the readers to my comment earlier today that Bob Eager
originates abuse.
QED.
As to the previous poster who hit my KF after her only other post, she
herself appears to be the moron because in her
haste to use a translation service, "moron" is the plural
and not the singular.
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