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Killer Apps (for //e) [message #387175] Wed, 18 September 2019 16:12 Go to next message
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Originally posted by: Bobbi

Since I recently got a MicroDrive/Turbo in my //e, I have been collecting together various "killer apps" for ProDOS. By that, I mean the best-in-class productivity and programming apps. I am sure I am missing some worthy candidates, so I thought I would post a list of what I have so far and other users can weigh in with their favourites. I am not so interested in games (or rather Total Replay solved that problem for me!), more in office productivity and programming environments:

Utilities
ADTPro 2.0.3, VDrive 2.0.3
Apple II Pi 1.6
Apple Sysutils 3.1
Copy2Plus 8.4 and 9.1
DOS Master
ProSEL 4.0
IIe Diagnostics 2.1
ProCMD 2.21
ShrinkIt 3.4
Microdrive Utils

Programming
Aztec C64 3.2
Beagle Bros Program Writer 2.0
Eightball (better eat my own dogfood!)
Kyan Pascal
Merlin8 2.58

Productivity
Appleworks 1.3, 2.1, 3.0, 4.3 and 5.1
Apple Writer 2.1
Beaglewrite 3.2
Commworks 1.3
ProTerm 3.1
Quicken
Supercalc3A 1.1
Visicalc Advanced
Wordperfect 1.1

Bobbi
Re: Killer Apps (for //e) [message #387176 is a reply to message #387175] Wed, 18 September 2019 21:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: James Davis

I always liked Global Program Line Editor (G.P.L.E.) from Beagle Bros.
Re: Killer Apps (for //e) [message #387177 is a reply to message #387175] Wed, 18 September 2019 22:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Frank M.

Utilities
Cat Doctor
Passport
Anti-M

Programming
PLASMA

Productivity
PFS
Apple II Desktop
MouseWrite
MousePaint
Paint 816
Re: Killer Apps (for //e) [message #387178 is a reply to message #387175] Thu, 19 September 2019 04:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 10:12:48 PM UTC+2, Bobbi wrote:
> Since I recently got a MicroDrive/Turbo in my //e, I have been collecting together various "killer apps" for ProDOS. By that, I mean the best-in-class productivity and programming apps. I am sure I am missing some worthy candidates, so I thought I would post a list of what I have so far and other users can weigh in with their favourites. I am not so interested in games (or rather Total Replay solved that problem for me!), more in office productivity and programming environments:
>
> Utilities
> ADTPro 2.0.3, VDrive 2.0.3
> Apple II Pi 1.6
> Apple Sysutils 3.1
> Copy2Plus 8.4 and 9.1
> DOS Master
> ProSEL 4.0
> IIe Diagnostics 2.1
> ProCMD 2.21
> ShrinkIt 3.4
> Microdrive Utils
>
> Programming
> Aztec C64 3.2
> Beagle Bros Program Writer 2.0
> Eightball (better eat my own dogfood!)
> Kyan Pascal
> Merlin8 2.58
>
> Productivity
> Appleworks 1.3, 2.1, 3.0, 4.3 and 5.1
> Apple Writer 2.1
> Beaglewrite 3.2
> Commworks 1.3
> ProTerm 3.1
> Quicken
> Supercalc3A 1.1
> Visicalc Advanced
> Wordperfect 1.1
>
> Bobbi

- Visicalc Advanced
+ FlashCalc

The former is not that "Advanced" and does not install easily on an HD,
the second is better and has an HD installation procedure

Marco
Re: Killer Apps (for //e) [message #387179 is a reply to message #387178] Thu, 19 September 2019 10:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Bobbi

On Thursday, 19 September 2019 04:14:47 UTC-4, Marco Verpelli wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 10:12:48 PM UTC+2, Bobbi wrote:
>> Since I recently got a MicroDrive/Turbo in my //e, I have been collecting together various "killer apps" for ProDOS. By that, I mean the best-in-class productivity and programming apps. I am sure I am missing some worthy candidates, so I thought I would post a list of what I have so far and other users can weigh in with their favourites. I am not so interested in games (or rather Total Replay solved that problem for me!), more in office productivity and programming environments:
>>
>> Utilities
>> ADTPro 2.0.3, VDrive 2.0.3
>> Apple II Pi 1.6
>> Apple Sysutils 3.1
>> Copy2Plus 8.4 and 9.1
>> DOS Master
>> ProSEL 4.0
>> IIe Diagnostics 2.1
>> ProCMD 2.21
>> ShrinkIt 3.4
>> Microdrive Utils
>>
>> Programming
>> Aztec C64 3.2
>> Beagle Bros Program Writer 2.0
>> Eightball (better eat my own dogfood!)
>> Kyan Pascal
>> Merlin8 2.58
>>
>> Productivity
>> Appleworks 1.3, 2.1, 3.0, 4.3 and 5.1
>> Apple Writer 2.1
>> Beaglewrite 3.2
>> Commworks 1.3
>> ProTerm 3.1
>> Quicken
>> Supercalc3A 1.1
>> Visicalc Advanced
>> Wordperfect 1.1
>>
>> Bobbi
>
> - Visicalc Advanced
> + FlashCalc
>
> The former is not that "Advanced" and does not install easily on an HD,
> the second is better and has an HD installation procedure
>
> Marco

I hadn't heard of Flashcalc. Will give it a try. Visicalc is included more because the earlier versions (for DOS) really were the original 'Killer App'.
Re: Killer Apps (for //e) [message #387180 is a reply to message #387177] Thu, 19 September 2019 10:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Bobbi

On Wednesday, 18 September 2019 22:09:25 UTC-4, Frank M. wrote:
> Utilities
> Cat Doctor
> Passport
> Anti-M
>
> Programming
> PLASMA
>
> Productivity
> PFS
> Apple II Desktop
> MouseWrite
> MousePaint
> Paint 816

I need to play with PLASMA. It is quite similar in concept to my Eightball interpreter / compiler (but probably a lot better!)

Cat Doctor is part of ProSEL 4.0, which I already included.

I also omitted anything that needs a mouse or a GS. My //e is mouseless. However I do have MouseDesk and Apple II Desktop which are somewhat usable without a mouse.

PFS was on my list at one point, but it didn't seem too special so I dropped it.

I have to look into Passport and Anti-M since I have no idea about those.
Re: Killer Apps (for //e) [message #387181 is a reply to message #387176] Thu, 19 September 2019 12:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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James Davis <JPD.Enterprises@outlook.com> wrote:
> I always liked Global Program Line Editor (G.P.L.E.) from Beagle Bros.
>

Program Writer was my favorite.

--
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Re: Killer Apps (for //e) [message #387182 is a reply to message #387181] Thu, 19 September 2019 13:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Bobbi

On Thursday, 19 September 2019 12:51:52 UTC-4, Michael J. Mahon wrote:
> James Davis <JPD.Enterprises@outlook.com> wrote:
>> I always liked Global Program Line Editor (G.P.L.E.) from Beagle Bros.
>>
>
> Program Writer was my favorite.
>
> --
> -michael - NadaNet 3.1 and AppleCrate II: http://michaeljmahon.com

Program Writer rocks :)
Re: Killer Apps (for //e) [message #387183 is a reply to message #387182] Thu, 19 September 2019 13:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> I am not so interested in games (or rather Total Replay solved that problem for me!

\o/

> I have to look into Passport and Anti-M since I have no idea about those.

Passport is primarily for deprotecting or verifying disks, so it's not really about productivity.
Anti-M is for running original games that have various copy-protection techniques that trigger on more modern machines. I suppose that it appeals primarily to people who don't have access to mass-storage to run a ProDOS port instead.
Re: Killer Apps (for //e) [message #387184 is a reply to message #387183] Thu, 19 September 2019 14:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Bobbi

On Thursday, 19 September 2019 13:55:11 UTC-4, qkumba wrote:
>> I am not so interested in games (or rather Total Replay solved that problem for me!
>
> \o/
>
>> I have to look into Passport and Anti-M since I have no idea about those.
>
> Passport is primarily for deprotecting or verifying disks, so it's not really about productivity.
> Anti-M is for running original games that have various copy-protection techniques that trigger on more modern machines. I suppose that it appeals primarily to people who don't have access to mass-storage to run a ProDOS port instead.

Back in the day I used Locksmith for deprotecting disks, but that was a DOS program (or maybe used its whole own thing, like lots of the self-booter games.)

Speaking of games, the one 'killer app' game for me is Sublogic Flight Simulator 2 (v2.0 ... there is a also an FS2 v1.0, which is buggier and harder to fly.) A ProDOS port of that would make me very happy (even without the scenery disks, which may be hard to support.) FS2, CP/M stuff and Apple Pascal are the only things I use my Disk II drives for these days.
Re: Killer Apps (for //e) [message #387185 is a reply to message #387175] Thu, 19 September 2019 19:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Matthew Power

I personally like II Write from Random House. It has a justify left / right function that I find useful. The versions I have found have a splash-screen from a video game on loading, but I made up another "official" (haha) looking screen in 816 Paint that I tucked in there in it's place. Fun! I use it more than Beagle Write... not that there's anything wrong with Beagle Write.
Re: Killer Apps (for //e) [message #387187 is a reply to message #387185] Thu, 19 September 2019 19:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Bobbi

On Thursday, 19 September 2019 19:25:46 UTC-4, Matthew Power wrote:
> I personally like II Write from Random House. It has a justify left / right function that I find useful. The versions I have found have a splash-screen from a video game on loading, but I made up another "official" (haha) looking screen in 816 Paint that I tucked in there in it's place. Fun! I use it more than Beagle Write... not that there's anything wrong with Beagle Write.

I am going to remove Copy2Plus v9.1 from my original list. Just ran into a nasty corruption bug with it, and it seems I am not the first!! v8.4 is the most recent Copy2Plus that works properly, it seems.
Re: Killer Apps (for //e) [message #387189 is a reply to message #387187] Thu, 19 September 2019 20:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Matthew Power

Have you considered adding a mouse interface? A2 Desktop works pretty great with a MicroDrive/Turbo. I have my //e set up to boot into A2 Desktop with all the main ProDOS apps I use as menu items from the drop-down. Program Writer, II Write, Apple Works 5, Contiki Browser, Telnet, more... It's a lot of fun, though a stylistic choice, I suppose. I can certainly understand that others might like to stick a little closer to the metal.
Re: Killer Apps (for //e) [message #387192 is a reply to message #387189] Thu, 19 September 2019 21:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Bobbi

On Thursday, 19 September 2019 20:30:49 UTC-4, Matthew Power wrote:
> Have you considered adding a mouse interface? A2 Desktop works pretty great with a MicroDrive/Turbo. I have my //e set up to boot into A2 Desktop with all the main ProDOS apps I use as menu items from the drop-down. Program Writer, II Write, Apple Works 5, Contiki Browser, Telnet, more... It's a lot of fun, though a stylistic choice, I suppose. I can certainly understand that others might like to stick a little closer to the metal.

If I come across a mouse + card at a decent price, I have an empty slot 5 :)
Killer Apps (for //e) [message #387193 is a reply to message #387175] Thu, 19 September 2019 22:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My computer crashed so can’t bring up the names but I always thought the IIe versions that are similar to Hyper Studio were cool to play with. I believe one is called Teacher Tech and the other one eludes me.
Re: Killer Apps (for //e) [message #387204 is a reply to message #387193] Fri, 20 September 2019 14:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'll vote for Command.Com. Gives you a nice command shell and utilities for
ProDOS.
Re: Killer Apps (for //e) [message #387205 is a reply to message #387204] Fri, 20 September 2019 14:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Bobbi

On Friday, 20 September 2019 14:52:33 UTC-4, Steven Hirsch wrote:
> I'll vote for Command.Com. Gives you a nice command shell and utilities for
> ProDOS.

Never come across Command.Com (except the MSDOS one of course!) I will have to give that a try. Thanks for the recommendation!
Re: Killer Apps (for //e) [message #387206 is a reply to message #387204] Fri, 20 September 2019 17:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Steven Hirsch <snhirsch@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'll vote for Command.Com. Gives you a nice command shell and utilities for
> ProDOS.
>

Talking of shell+utils: Davex
Re: Killer Apps (for //e) [message #387245 is a reply to message #387189] Sat, 21 September 2019 16:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Matthew Power <matthewmpower@gmail.com> wrote:
> Have you considered adding a mouse interface? A2 Desktop works pretty
> great with a MicroDrive/Turbo. I have my //e set up to boot into A2
> Desktop with all the main ProDOS apps I use as menu items from the
> drop-down. Program Writer, II Write, Apple Works 5, Contiki Browser,
> Telnet, more... It's a lot of fun, though a stylistic choice, I suppose.
> I can certainly understand that others might like to stick a little closer to the metal.
>

Right. I have both Apple mice and optical mice for my //e, but have only
used them with drawing programs.

For me, the Apple II is a welcome respite from a rodent-infested world. ;-)

--
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Re: Killer Apps (for //e) [message #387281 is a reply to message #387204] Sun, 22 September 2019 23:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If that’s my program, I am up to just under 100 utilities written so far. Everything from undeleting files to viewing every type of graphics file, including IIGS compressed screens, icons and fonts, unforking and re-forking files, etc

Two most powerful utilities are a FIND any files with search criteria to list files newer or older than a certain date and the other utility lets you create an alias of any executable file (basic, binary or system) and launch that file from any directory on your hard drive, just by typing the name at the prompt, without the path.

Exiting a basic or binary program leaves you at the path you typed the program name from, but a system file that uses the Prodos Bye to exit, returns to the applesoft prompt with the command line in effect, but at the boot disks root directory.
Re: Killer Apps (for //e) [message #387289 is a reply to message #387281] Mon, 23 September 2019 08:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Bobbi

On Sunday, 22 September 2019 23:23:21 UTC-4, I am Rob wrote:
> If that’s my program, I am up to just under 100 utilities written so far. Everything from undeleting files to viewing every type of graphics file, including IIGS compressed screens, icons and fonts, unforking and re-forking files, etc
>
> Two most powerful utilities are a FIND any files with search criteria to list files newer or older than a certain date and the other utility lets you create an alias of any executable file (basic, binary or system) and launch that file from any directory on your hard drive, just by typing the name at the prompt, without the path.
>
> Exiting a basic or binary program leaves you at the path you typed the program name from, but a system file that uses the Prodos Bye to exit, returns to the applesoft prompt with the command line in effect, but at the boot disks root directory.

That is Davex you are referring to? It sounds very useful, I will give it a try :) I am assuming it is on Asimov?
Re: Killer Apps (for //e) [message #387290 is a reply to message #387289] Mon, 23 September 2019 09:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No, Davex is a lot more complicated and hard to write utilities for.

My program is called CLEAR, (Command Line Enhancements for Applesoft by Rob..

It was written so that any program/command/utility written by anyone could be launched at the applesoft prompt just by typing its name. And from any directory without having to enter or navigate to the path the program is located.

It also has a universal HELP that can view notes or text files without navigating to the directory the help file is in.

There are 3 types of Help folders. The first is the universal Help folder on the root directory. You keep any text file here that you want access to from any location on the hard drive.

The second is the command Help folder that has the instructions for the command and its usage and these text files should have exactly the same name as the command. It is located in CMDS/HELP

The last Help folder is in every directory created on the hard drive. It is meant to keep notes about the programs or files in that directory. It helps organize and keep all those text files separated from program files. And the text file should have the same name as the program for easy remembering but doesn’t have to have the same name.

Sure you could have one big Documents folder, but when you get up to the hundreds of note files, like like I have, it is nice to be a little more organized and navigating all those text files would be a pain.

So, HELP works like this.

HELP « textfile » - would first search the Help folder in the directory you are in for the named text file.

If not found, it then searches the universal Help folder in the root directory.

And lastly the commands Help folder is searched.

Knowing the order of the search means text files in the standard Help folder should mot have the same name as in the Universal or Command Help folders..

This has become my preferred method of writing, filing and organizing notes.. Way better than mouse navigation and double-clicking a text file to open on modern computers.
Re: Killer Apps (for //e) [message #387292 is a reply to message #387175] Mon, 23 September 2019 09:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Paul MacMillan

Can we include the Bitsy Bye program selector (QUIT.SYSTEM) as well as John Brooks' ProDOS 2.4 itself?
Re: Killer Apps (for //e) [message #387293 is a reply to message #387289] Mon, 23 September 2019 10:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 9/23/19 8:19 AM, Bobbi wrote:
> On Sunday, 22 September 2019 23:23:21 UTC-4, I am Rob wrote:
>> If that’s my program, I am up to just under 100 utilities written so far. Everything from undeleting files to viewing every type of graphics file, including IIGS compressed screens, icons and fonts, unforking and re-forking files, etc
>>
>> Two most powerful utilities are a FIND any files with search criteria to list files newer or older than a certain date and the other utility lets you create an alias of any executable file (basic, binary or system) and launch that file from any directory on your hard drive, just by typing the name at the prompt, without the path.
>>
>> Exiting a basic or binary program leaves you at the path you typed the program name from, but a system file that uses the Prodos Bye to exit, returns to the applesoft prompt with the command line in effect, but at the boot disks root directory.
>
> That is Davex you are referring to? It sounds very useful, I will give it a try :) I am assuming it is on Asimov?

Davex is still hosted on SourceForge:
https://sourceforge.net/p/davex/home/Home/

I moved a fork over to github too, but there's no substantive change
from the SF version (yet).
Re: Killer Apps (for //e) [message #387296 is a reply to message #387293] Mon, 23 September 2019 11:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Bobbi

On Monday, 23 September 2019 10:14:15 UTC-4, schmidtd wrote:
> On 9/23/19 8:19 AM, Bobbi wrote:
>> On Sunday, 22 September 2019 23:23:21 UTC-4, I am Rob wrote:
>>> If that’s my program, I am up to just under 100 utilities written so far. Everything from undeleting files to viewing every type of graphics file, including IIGS compressed screens, icons and fonts, unforking and re-forking files, etc
>>>
>>> Two most powerful utilities are a FIND any files with search criteria to list files newer or older than a certain date and the other utility lets you create an alias of any executable file (basic, binary or system) and launch that file from any directory on your hard drive, just by typing the name at the prompt, without the path.
>>>
>>> Exiting a basic or binary program leaves you at the path you typed the program name from, but a system file that uses the Prodos Bye to exit, returns to the applesoft prompt with the command line in effect, but at the boot disks root directory.
>>
>> That is Davex you are referring to? It sounds very useful, I will give it a try :) I am assuming it is on Asimov?
>
> Davex is still hosted on SourceForge:
> https://sourceforge.net/p/davex/home/Home/
>
> I moved a fork over to github too, but there's no substantive change
> from the SF version (yet).

Seems both CLEAR and Davex should be on the list to evaluate :)

ProDOS 2.4.2 (and the Prodos 2.5.0 alphas) are also included on my disk image ... I just forgot to mention them above. Bitsy Bye is very nice, I agree!
Re: Killer Apps (for //e) [message #387309 is a reply to message #387292] Mon, 23 September 2019 22:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Brian Patrie

Paul MacMillan wrote:
> Can we include the Bitsy Bye program selector (QUIT.SYSTEM)
> as well as John Brooks' ProDOS 2.4 itself?

Quit.system isn't actually Bitsy Bye; it's some housekeeping, and a
ProDOS MLI Quit call. Bitsy Bye is part of the ProDOS 2.4/2.5 binary;
it's invoked by any app making a Quit call (incl BASIC.system's bye
command).
Re: Killer Apps (for //e) [message #387314 is a reply to message #387309] Tue, 24 September 2019 11:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Bobbi

On Monday, 23 September 2019 22:21:18 UTC-4, Brian Patrie wrote:
> Paul MacMillan wrote:
>> Can we include the Bitsy Bye program selector (QUIT.SYSTEM)
>> as well as John Brooks' ProDOS 2.4 itself?
>
> Quit.system isn't actually Bitsy Bye; it's some housekeeping, and a
> ProDOS MLI Quit call. Bitsy Bye is part of the ProDOS 2.4/2.5 binary;
> it's invoked by any app making a Quit call (incl BASIC.system's bye
> command).

Ah that makes sense. I have been looking at the ProDOS quit call recently for another project.
Re: Killer Apps (for //e) [message #387325 is a reply to message #387293] Tue, 24 September 2019 15:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Anthony Adverse

On Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 12:14:15 AM UTC+10, schmidtd wrote:
> On 9/23/19 8:19 AM, Bobbi wrote:
>> On Sunday, 22 September 2019 23:23:21 UTC-4, I am Rob wrote:
>>> If that’s my program, I am up to just under 100 utilities written so far. Everything from undeleting files to viewing every type of graphics file, including IIGS compressed screens, icons and fonts, unforking and re-forking files, etc
>>>
>>> Two most powerful utilities are a FIND any files with search criteria to list files newer or older than a certain date and the other utility lets you create an alias of any executable file (basic, binary or system) and launch that file from any directory on your hard drive, just by typing the name at the prompt, without the path.
>>>
>>> Exiting a basic or binary program leaves you at the path you typed the program name from, but a system file that uses the Prodos Bye to exit, returns to the applesoft prompt with the command line in effect, but at the boot disks root directory.
>>
>> That is Davex you are referring to? It sounds very useful, I will give it a try :) I am assuming it is on Asimov?
>
> Davex is still hosted on SourceForge:
> https://sourceforge.net/p/davex/home/Home/
>
> I moved a fork over to github too, but there's no substantive change
> from the SF version (yet).

How does davex go launching S16? I have to admit I've never looked at it. I was surprised to see that functionality in there.
Re: Killer Apps (for //e) [message #387327 is a reply to message #387325] Tue, 24 September 2019 15:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 9/24/19 3:20 PM, Anthony Adverse wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 12:14:15 AM UTC+10, schmidtd wrote:
>> On 9/23/19 8:19 AM, Bobbi wrote:
>>> That is Davex you are referring to? It sounds very useful, I will give it a try :) I am assuming it is on Asimov?
>>
>> Davex is still hosted on SourceForge:
>> https://sourceforge.net/p/davex/home/Home/
>>
>> I moved a fork over to github too, but there's no substantive change
>> from the SF version (yet).
>
> How does davex go launching S16? I have to admit I've never looked at it. I was surprised to see that functionality in there.

Here is how davex goes launching S16:
https://sourceforge.net/p/davex/code/HEAD/tree/trunk/src/She ll/2/file_execution2.asm

But of course that isn't the OP's goal, given the //e doesn't run 16-bit
software. ;-)
Re: Killer Apps (for //e) [message #387328 is a reply to message #387327] Tue, 24 September 2019 16:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Bobbi

On Tuesday, 24 September 2019 15:55:22 UTC-4, schmidtd wrote:
> On 9/24/19 3:20 PM, Anthony Adverse wrote:
>> On Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 12:14:15 AM UTC+10, schmidtd wrote:
>>> On 9/23/19 8:19 AM, Bobbi wrote:
>>>> That is Davex you are referring to? It sounds very useful, I will give it a try :) I am assuming it is on Asimov?
>>>
>>> Davex is still hosted on SourceForge:
>>> https://sourceforge.net/p/davex/home/Home/
>>>
>>> I moved a fork over to github too, but there's no substantive change
>>> from the SF version (yet).
>>
>> How does davex go launching S16? I have to admit I've never looked at it. I was surprised to see that functionality in there.
>
> Here is how davex goes launching S16:
> https://sourceforge.net/p/davex/code/HEAD/tree/trunk/src/She ll/2/file_execution2.asm
>
> But of course that isn't the OP's goal, given the //e doesn't run 16-bit
> software. ;-)

Unless you swap in a 65816 anyhow!
Re: Killer Apps (for //e) [message #387337 is a reply to message #387327] Tue, 24 September 2019 23:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Anthony Adverse

>> How does davex go launching S16? I have to admit I've never looked at it. I was surprised to see that functionality in there.
>
> Here is how davex goes launching S16:
> https://sourceforge.net/p/davex/code/HEAD/tree/trunk/src/She ll/2/file_execution2.asm
>
> But of course that isn't the OP's goal, given the //e doesn't run 16-bit
> software. ;-)

Looking at that wasn't what I had in mind, you need to run davex from gs/os in place of finder or something similar? Presumably you can't launch S16's from P8

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Re: Killer Apps (for //e) [message #387341 is a reply to message #387337] Wed, 25 September 2019 10:21 Go to previous message
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On 9/24/19 11:48 PM, Anthony Adverse wrote:
>>> How does davex go launching S16? I have to admit I've never looked at it. I was surprised to see that functionality in there.
>>
>> Here is how davex goes launching S16:
>> https://sourceforge.net/p/davex/code/HEAD/tree/trunk/src/She ll/2/file_execution2.asm
>>
>> But of course that isn't the OP's goal, given the //e doesn't run 16-bit
>> software. ;-)
>
> Looking at that wasn't what I had in mind, you need to run davex from gs/os in place of finder or something similar? Presumably you can't launch S16's from P8

Right, you need to have started davex from GS/OS.
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