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New Apple IIgs File Server [message #386800] Sun, 08 September 2019 13:20 Go to next message
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Originally posted by: Todd Holcomb

Hey guys,

For all of you out there with a networked IIgs, I've set up an A2SERVER for you to connect with via AFPBridge (https://sheumann.github.io/AFPBridge/).

Use the url afp://appleiigs*ddns*net/ApplePi to connect. (Replace * with .)

The server contains Shrinkit archives of whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za (thanks Alex!), so browse his site then download directly from the server to your IIgs hard drive. Large HD images will not be on the server at this time, such as his various collections of games/apps, so you'll still need to download those from his site.

There's also Qkumba's ProDOS conversions in compressed folder format on the server. Download, decompress, and start playing!

IIgs-related text files from textfiles.com are on there too.

Leave a message in the "I was here!" folder if you get on. Hope to see you there!

BTW, Uthernet II cards are still available from A2RetroSystems if you weren't aware (http://a2retrosystems.com).

Todd
Re: New Apple IIgs File Server [message #387173 is a reply to message #386800] Tue, 17 September 2019 18:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: Todd Holcomb

7 confirmed visitors so far... Doesn't anyone else have an Uthernet I / II card?
Re: New Apple IIgs File Server [message #387174 is a reply to message #387173] Tue, 17 September 2019 19:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tempest is currently offline  Tempest
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I've been meaning to get my IIgs online, but I haven't played with Marinetti. Soon I promise.
Re: New Apple IIgs File Server [message #387196 is a reply to message #387173] Fri, 20 September 2019 02:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Anthony Adverse

On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 8:40:48 AM UTC+10, Todd Holcomb wrote:
> 7 confirmed visitors so far... Doesn't anyone else have an Uthernet I / II card?

Not this little dack bluck. I had to choose.... VidHD or Uther.... figured I was better off being able to see and read the picture. One day I might have enough loot to grab an Uther.

A
Re: New Apple IIgs File Server [message #387236 is a reply to message #387196] Sat, 21 September 2019 14:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: Todd Holcomb

On Friday, September 20, 2019 at 1:58:39 AM UTC-5, Anthony Adverse wrote:

> Not this little dack bluck. I had to choose.... VidHD or Uther.... figured I was better off being able to see and read the picture. One day I might have enough loot to grab an Uther.

Sell that PC of yours and you'll have plenty of money for an Uthernet II! ;)
Re: New Apple IIgs File Server [message #387267 is a reply to message #387236] Sun, 22 September 2019 09:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Anthony Adverse

On Sunday, September 22, 2019 at 4:07:14 AM UTC+10, Todd Holcomb wrote:
> On Friday, September 20, 2019 at 1:58:39 AM UTC-5, Anthony Adverse wrote:
>
>> Not this little dack bluck. I had to choose.... VidHD or Uther.... figured I was better off being able to see and read the picture. One day I might have enough loot to grab an Uther.
>
> Sell that PC of yours and you'll have plenty of money for an Uthernet II! ;)

Chuckle, I think I'd have to pay someone to take them away....I couldn't even give a couple away not to long back... sent them to recycle in the end. :/
Re: New Apple IIgs File Server [message #387272 is a reply to message #387173] Sun, 22 September 2019 13:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: Todd Holcomb

On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 5:40:48 PM UTC-5, Todd Holcomb wrote:
> 7 confirmed visitors so far... Doesn't anyone else have an Uthernet I / II card?

I just noticed that the serial number on my Uthernet II card is 434, so there must be at least that many out there...
Re: New Apple IIgs File Server [message #387287 is a reply to message #387272] Mon, 23 September 2019 05:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Anthony Adverse

On Monday, September 23, 2019 at 3:21:11 AM UTC+10, Todd Holcomb wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 5:40:48 PM UTC-5, Todd Holcomb wrote:
>> 7 confirmed visitors so far... Doesn't anyone else have an Uthernet I / II card?
>
> I just noticed that the serial number on my Uthernet II card is 434, so there must be at least that many out there...

Are you sure you haven't got another 433 there somewhere?
Re: New Apple IIgs File Server [message #387304 is a reply to message #387287] Mon, 23 September 2019 19:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Anthony Adverse <the.ertceps@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday, September 23, 2019 at 3:21:11 AM UTC+10, Todd Holcomb wrote:
>> On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 5:40:48 PM UTC-5, Todd Holcomb wrote:
>>> 7 confirmed visitors so far... Doesn't anyone else have an Uthernet I / II card?
>>
>> I just noticed that the serial number on my Uthernet II card is 434, so
>> there must be at least that many out there...
>
> Are you sure you haven't got another 433 there somewhere?
>

Are you trying to imply that they are hard to find? Glenn still sells them.
Re: New Apple IIgs File Server [message #387310 is a reply to message #387304] Tue, 24 September 2019 01:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: Todd Holcomb

On Monday, September 23, 2019 at 6:34:44 PM UTC-5, Andrew Roughan wrote:

> Are you trying to imply that they are hard to find? Glenn still sells them.

I think he's looking for a freebie... ;)
Re: New Apple IIgs File Server [message #387311 is a reply to message #386800] Tue, 24 September 2019 01:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: Todd Holcomb

Someone was able to connect without an Uthernet card:

"Who needs an UtherNet card? Not Me! Localtalk to Ethernet, then a MacIP Server does the job. Best download speed I have attained is 65 kilobits/sec or 8.125 Kilobytes/sec."

"Connecting via:
Apple IIgs --> LocalTalk --> Micro Asante Print --> Ethernet --> Cisco 1721 Router running a MacIP server --> Internet."

Sweet setup!
Re: New Apple IIgs File Server [message #387312 is a reply to message #387311] Tue, 24 September 2019 04:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
roughana is currently offline  roughana
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Todd Holcomb <toddholcomb6@gmail.com> wrote:
> Someone was able to connect without an Uthernet card:

I’d like to try:

Apple IIgs with Apple II Ethernet using MacIP Link layer --> Cisco 1720
Router running a MacIP server

Perhaps that person can help with the Cisco setup necessary. I really don’t
know what I’m doing with the Cisco router.

Thanks
Andrew
Re: New Apple IIgs File Server [message #387324 is a reply to message #387311] Tue, 24 September 2019 15:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: Anthony Adverse

> "Connecting via:
> Apple IIgs --> LocalTalk --> Micro Asante Print --> Ethernet --> Cisco 1721 Router running a MacIP server --> Internet."
>
> Sweet setup!

For the Uthernet and Local Talk deprived... you can go the PPP bridge...

IIgs - Marinetti - RasPi - Internet -
or any other pi

You won't get better than 19.2k less overheads this way.

I have to admit I still don't have this working, but I've had a bit on my plate.
Re: New Apple IIgs File Server [message #387336 is a reply to message #387312] Tue, 24 September 2019 23:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: Todd Holcomb

On Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 3:30:09 AM UTC-5, Andrew Roughan wrote:

> I’d like to try:
>
> Apple IIgs with Apple II Ethernet using MacIP Link layer --> Cisco 1720
> Router running a MacIP server
>
> Perhaps that person can help with the Cisco setup necessary. I really don’t
> know what I’m doing with the Cisco router.
>
> Thanks
> Andrew

From anonymous guy on my server:

Getting the Cisco to work was a pain in the rear.
The software on the router is the first obstacle. There are literally dozens if not hundreds of different versions of the software for any given model of Cisco router. Only a small few of them support routing of AppleTalk traffic. They (the softwares) are also paywalled by Cisco. If you don't have a paid account with them (enterprise level costs), you will have to go a-pirating. AT YOUR OWN RISK!

After getting a version of the software that works (very difficult). Then there is the setup. It's different for every network and circumstance.

I actually had to do a course on Cisco routers and networking to grasp it.
Re: New Apple IIgs File Server [message #387420 is a reply to message #386800] Sat, 28 September 2019 08:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
STYNX is currently offline  STYNX
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On Sunday, 8 September 2019 19:20:21 UTC+2, Todd Holcomb wrote:
> Hey guys,
>
> For all of you out there with a networked IIgs, I've set up an A2SERVER for you to connect with via AFPBridge (https://sheumann.github.io/AFPBridge/).

I could successful login and browse the server with an Apple IIgs and Uthernet II :-)
Thanks
-Jonas
Re: New Apple IIgs File Server [message #387437 is a reply to message #387420] Sun, 29 September 2019 13:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: 6502enhanced

Hey Todd, this is a great idea! Thanks for offering it!
Re: New Apple IIgs File Server [message #387480 is a reply to message #386800] Tue, 01 October 2019 17:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In article <c5a1d1ac-e61d-4761-9e12-6b116a7e4729@googlegroups.com>,
Todd Holcomb <toddholcomb6@gmail.com> wrote:
> Use the url afp://appleiigs*ddns*net/ApplePi to connect. (Replace * with .)

I don't know if this is supposed to still be up or not, but with GSplus
running System 6.0.4, I'm getting "An unknown error occured. [sic] ($0706)"

IIRC, this is the same error I've been getting trying to get it talking to a
local Netatalk server.

_/_
/ v \ Scott Alfter (remove the obvious to send mail)
(IIGS( https://alfter.us/ Top-posting!
\_^_/ >What's the most annoying thing on Usenet?
Re: New Apple IIgs File Server [message #387499 is a reply to message #387480] Wed, 02 October 2019 22:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: Todd Holcomb

On Tuesday, October 1, 2019 at 4:17:58 PM UTC-5, Scott Alfter wrote:

> I don't know if this is supposed to still be up or not, but with GSplus
> running System 6.0.4, I'm getting "An unknown error occured. [sic] ($0706)"
>
> IIRC, this is the same error I've been getting trying to get it talking to a
> local Netatalk server.

It's still up! Must be something on your end. And I have not played around with GSPlus at all so unfortunately I can't help you...

Todd
Re: New Apple IIgs File Server [message #388193 is a reply to message #387312] Thu, 31 October 2019 08:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: cookingwithbelle88

Looks like the supported ended at IOS 12.4T; so you need an older Cisco router as the current offering will not be able to support that.

I will have to go check if I have an older router and check out the commands.

The AppleTalk feature removal will be permanent and will also apply to any future IOS releases after 12.4(24)T

> Apple IIgs with Apple II Ethernet using MacIP Link layer --> Cisco 1720
> Router running a MacIP server
>
> Perhaps that person can help with the Cisco setup necessary. I really don’t
> know what I’m doing with the Cisco router.
Re: New Apple IIgs File Server [message #388194 is a reply to message #387312] Thu, 31 October 2019 08:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Looks like the supported ended at IOS 12.4T; so you need an older Cisco router as the current offering will not be able to support that.

I will have to go check if I have an older router and check out the commands.

The AppleTalk feature removal will be permanent and will also apply to any future IOS releases after 12.4(24)T

> Apple IIgs with Apple II Ethernet using MacIP Link layer --> Cisco 1720
> Router running a MacIP server
>
> Perhaps that person can help with the Cisco setup necessary. I really don’t
> know what I’m doing with the Cisco router.
Re: New Apple IIgs File Server [message #388199 is a reply to message #388194] Thu, 31 October 2019 18:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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wyeo <willieyeo@gmail.com> wrote:
> Looks like the supported ended at IOS 12.4T; so you need an older Cisco
> router as the current offering will not be able to support that.
>
> I will have to go check if I have an older router and check out the commands.
>
> The AppleTalk feature removal will be permanent and will also apply to
> any future IOS releases after 12.4(24)T
>
>> Apple IIgs with Apple II Ethernet using MacIP Link layer --> Cisco 1720
>> Router running a MacIP server
>>
>> Perhaps that person can help with the Cisco setup necessary. I really don’t
>> know what I’m doing with the Cisco router.
>

I have since found a page which describes the Cisco setup. It is now linked
from the Wikipedia page for MacIP.

Now all I need is the software for the 1720.

Regards
Andrew
Re: New Apple IIgs File Server [message #388200 is a reply to message #388199] Thu, 31 October 2019 20:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Andrew, you shouldn't need to. The Cisco 1720 should have the correct IOS for the support, as I didn't think it make the IOS 15.0.

If you managed to start it up and see the boot sequence, you should be able to tell what IOS version you have.

> I have since found a page which describes the Cisco setup. It is now linked
> from the Wikipedia page for MacIP.
>
> Now all I need is the software for the 1720.
>
> Regards
> Andrew
Re: New Apple IIgs File Server [message #388493 is a reply to message #387173] Thu, 07 November 2019 21:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: Mike Horgan

I just ordered one!
Re: New Apple IIgs File Server [message #388505 is a reply to message #386800] Fri, 08 November 2019 12:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: Todd Holcomb

The Apple IIgs Collection, an archived collection of programs for the IIg plus downloaded software from the Apple Users Group of Sydney, has been added to the file server. You can also download the archive from here:

https://archive.org/details/appleiigscollectionarchivedcolle ctionplusaugsydneydownloads

-Todd
Re: New Apple IIgs File Server [message #388564 is a reply to message #388505] Sat, 09 November 2019 16:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: awanderin

Todd Holcomb <toddholcomb6@gmail.com> writes:

> The Apple IIgs Collection, an archived collection of programs for the
> IIg plus downloaded software from the Apple Users Group of Sydney, has
> been added to the file server. You can also download the archive from
> here:
>
> https://archive.org/details/appleiigscollectionarchivedcolle ctionplusaugsydneydownloads

I downloaded the archive and found a lot of .SEA files (self-extracting
ShrinkIt archives). The `nulib` program I've got on my linux box
doesn't want anything to do with these, so I took a peek and discovered
that the NuFX archive starts at 0x2ee5 (12005).

So, to turn these SEAs into SHKs on Linux:

SEA=name of SEA file
dd if=${SEA} bs=1 skip=12005 of=${SEA/.SEA/.SHK}

Worked for me, perhaps it will help someone else out.

--
Jerry awanderin at gmail dot com
Re: New Apple IIgs File Server [message #388565 is a reply to message #388564] Sat, 09 November 2019 17:07 Go to previous message
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Originally posted by: awanderin

awanderin <awanderin@gmail.com> writes:

> Todd Holcomb <toddholcomb6@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> The Apple IIgs Collection, an archived collection of programs for the
>> IIg plus downloaded software from the Apple Users Group of Sydney, has
>> been added to the file server. You can also download the archive from
>> here:
>>
>> https://archive.org/details/appleiigscollectionarchivedcolle ctionplusaugsydneydownloads
>
> I downloaded the archive and found a lot of .SEA files (self-extracting
> ShrinkIt archives). The `nulib` program I've got on my linux box
> doesn't want anything to do with these, so I took a peek and discovered
> that the NuFX archive starts at 0x2ee5 (12005).
>
> So, to turn these SEAs into SHKs on Linux:
>
> SEA=name of SEA file
> dd if=${SEA} bs=1 skip=12005 of=${SEA/.SEA/.SHK}
>
> Worked for me, perhaps it will help someone else out.

I just rebuilt the newest nulib from its github repo:

https://github.com/fadden/nulib2.git

and it handles SEAs just fine, so this workaround is unnecessary.

Thanks Andy McFadden for a great utility!

--
Jerry awanderin at gmail dot com
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