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Total Replay with FastChip, VidHD, CFFA ? [message #386570] Sat, 31 August 2019 02:05 Go to next message
roughana is currently offline  roughana
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I've just setup a new system configuration and it is not working for me, so thought I'd see if anyone else has the same configuration working.

Platinum //e (International)
VidHD in slot 2
Mouse card in slot 4
Mockingoard in slot 5
CFFA in slot 7
Meg80 in Aux slot (which blocks slot 3)
The above configuration works fine.

When I add FastChip //e in slot 1, Total Replay does not load. I see a blank screen.
Yes, I did hold reset for 7 seconds during power on to let the VidHD load.
I can't re-enter the CFFA menu after reset with this combination either.

I know John has tested VidHD with FastChip //e so i'm thinking that this combination is supported in theory.

Any ideas what is causing the problem?

Thanks,
Andrew
Re: Total Replay with FastChip, VidHD, CFFA ? [message #386571 is a reply to message #386570] Sat, 31 August 2019 03:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Anthony Adverse

On Saturday, August 31, 2019 at 4:05:46 PM UTC+10, andrew...@writeme.com wrote:
> I've just setup a new system configuration and it is not working for me, so thought I'd see if anyone else has the same configuration working.
>
> Platinum //e (International)
> VidHD in slot 2
> Mouse card in slot 4
> Mockingoard in slot 5
> CFFA in slot 7
> Meg80 in Aux slot (which blocks slot 3)
> The above configuration works fine.
>
> When I add FastChip //e in slot 1, Total Replay does not load. I see a blank screen.
> Yes, I did hold reset for 7 seconds during power on to let the VidHD load.
> I can't re-enter the CFFA menu after reset with this combination either.
>
> I know John has tested VidHD with FastChip //e so i'm thinking that this combination is supported in theory.
>
> Any ideas what is causing the problem?
>
> Thanks,
> Andrew

I suspect...... DMA somehow.... I don't know the fast chip... but I'd still expect it to assert DMA at some point... try disabling DMA on everything else...

A
Re: Total Replay with FastChip, VidHD, CFFA ? [message #386575 is a reply to message #386570] Sat, 31 August 2019 07:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
christopher.shepherd2 is currently offline  christopher.shepherd2
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Le samedi 31 août 2019 02:05:46 UTC-4, andrew...@writeme.com a écrit :
> I've just setup a new system configuration and it is not working for me, so thought I'd see if anyone else has the same configuration working.
>
> Platinum //e (International)
> VidHD in slot 2
> Mouse card in slot 4
> Mockingoard in slot 5
> CFFA in slot 7
> Meg80 in Aux slot (which blocks slot 3)
> The above configuration works fine.
>
> When I add FastChip //e in slot 1, Total Replay does not load. I see a blank screen.
> Yes, I did hold reset for 7 seconds during power on to let the VidHD load..
> I can't re-enter the CFFA menu after reset with this combination either.
>
> I know John has tested VidHD with FastChip //e so i'm thinking that this combination is supported in theory.
>
> Any ideas what is causing the problem?
>
> Thanks,
> Andrew

I have a very similar setup and can confirm it does work. Are you holding down ctrl-reset on cold boot until video is visible?

-C
Re: Total Replay with FastChip, VidHD, CFFA ? [message #386595 is a reply to message #386575] Sat, 31 August 2019 17:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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<christopher.shepherd2@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have a very similar setup and can confirm it does work. Are you holding
> down ctrl-reset on cold boot until video is visible?

Yes. What is your setup? Do you have a Mockingboard?
Re: Total Replay with FastChip, VidHD, CFFA ? [message #386596 is a reply to message #386595] Sat, 31 August 2019 20:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Bobbi

On Saturday, 31 August 2019 17:36:53 UTC-4, Andrew Roughan wrote:
> <christopher.shepherd2@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I have a very similar setup and can confirm it does work. Are you holding
>> down ctrl-reset on cold boot until video is visible?
>
> Yes. What is your setup? Do you have a Mockingboard?

Start pulling boards until it works, then add them back one at a time. I had similar issues recently and it turned out the aux card was not properly seated, which was causing really weird flaky behaviour.
Re: Total Replay with FastChip, VidHD, CFFA ? [message #386603 is a reply to message #386570] Sat, 31 August 2019 23:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I pulled the Meg80Z Aux board completely. With a VidHD and a FastChip //e it is apparently redundant. Total Replay is now loading with FastChip //e operational.
The bonus is that I get a slot back now because I can put VidHD into slot 3.

I also had the FastChip //e Ramworks slot set to 2 which may have caused a conflict with VidHD, although I just switched it back onto slot 3 and Total Replay still worked.

This is an improvement.

I still haven't had success with the clone Mockinboard.

Regards,
Andrew
Re: Total Replay with FastChip, VidHD, CFFA ? [message #386606 is a reply to message #386595] Sun, 01 September 2019 07:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
christopher.shepherd2 is currently offline  christopher.shepherd2
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Le samedi 31 août 2019 17:36:53 UTC-4, Andrew Roughan a écrit :
> <christopher.shepherd2@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I have a very similar setup and can confirm it does work. Are you holding
>> down ctrl-reset on cold boot until video is visible?
>
> Yes. What is your setup? Do you have a Mockingboard?

Platinum IIe (USA), APMSX in Slot 1, SSC in Slot 2, VidHD in Slot 3, Mouse in Slot 4, CFFA in Slot 5, FastChip IIe in Slot 6, Mega Audio in Slot 7, Ramworks8M in Aux. It worked fine when I had a Mockingboard clone (Mockingboard-K) in Slot 7 as well.

-C
Re: Total Replay with FastChip, VidHD, CFFA ? [message #386624 is a reply to message #386603] Sun, 01 September 2019 20:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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<andrew.roughan@writeme.com> wrote:
> I pulled the Meg80Z Aux board completely. With a VidHD and a FastChip //e
> it is apparently redundant.

I spoke too soon. Weird stuff is still going on. Apparently the Aux card is
needed to provide memory for Text Page 2 that FastChip does not duplicate.
VidHD will display stuff written there but there’s floating bus response if
it is read back.

Regards
Andrew
Re: Total Replay with FastChip, VidHD, CFFA ? [message #386674 is a reply to message #386624] Wed, 04 September 2019 08:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I’ve swapped in a second international Platinum //e with a different Aux
64k card.
It is not working either. Key presses are lost in VidHD and CFFA menus
before any software is loaded. Total Replay does not load at all with
FastChip on.
If I turn FastChip off everything behaves as expected.

Can anyone else replicate these results?

Jorma and Antoine don’t have the necessary hardware to do so.

Regards
Andrew
Re: Total Replay with FastChip, VidHD, CFFA ? [message #386690 is a reply to message #386674] Wed, 04 September 2019 22:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Wednesday, September 4, 2019 at 10:57:07 PM UTC+10, Andrew Roughan wrote:
> I’ve swapped in a second international Platinum //e with a different Aux
> 64k card.
> It is not working either. Key presses are lost in VidHD and CFFA menus
> before any software is loaded. Total Replay does not load at all with
> FastChip on.
> If I turn FastChip off everything behaves as expected.
>
> Can anyone else replicate these results?
>
> Jorma and Antoine don’t have the necessary hardware to do so.
>
> Regards
> Andrew

Hi Andrew,

I have all of those cards or equivalents (except for the Meg80 RAM card), *BUT* I don't have a Platinum //e, rather an original 1982 PAL //e.

I can test this over the weekend if you think it worthwhile? Just let me know.

Cheers,
Mike
Re: Total Replay with FastChip, VidHD, CFFA ? [message #386695 is a reply to message #386690] Thu, 05 September 2019 02:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Polymorph <mike.a.stephens@gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't have a Platinum //e, rather an original 1982 PAL //e.
>
> I can test this over the weekend if you think it worthwhile? Just let me know.

Hi Mike,

Yes please. Any extended 80 col card will do.

Thanks,
Andrew
Re: Total Replay with FastChip, VidHD, CFFA ? [message #386796 is a reply to message #386695] Sun, 08 September 2019 07:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Thursday, September 5, 2019 at 4:22:48 PM UTC+10, Andrew Roughan wrote:
> Polymorph wrote:
>> I don't have a Platinum //e, rather an original 1982 PAL //e.
>>
>> I can test this over the weekend if you think it worthwhile? Just let me know.
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> Yes please. Any extended 80 col card will do.
>
> Thanks,
> Andrew

OK, I've just run some tests in my PAL //e loaded as shown:

SLOT 1 - FastCHIP //e
SLOT 2 - VidHD
SLOT 3 - EMPTY
SLOT 4 - Mouse Interface Card
SLOT 5 - My Mockingboard clone
SLOT 6 - Apple I/O Controller
SLOT 7 - CFFA3000

AUX SLOT: Standard Apple 80 Column/64Kb Memory Expansion

My results are as follows:
1) I am able to get to the CFFA menu by holding CTRL-Reset until the VidHD initialises and the HDMI comes up, then quickly pressing M.
2) I am able to navigate the CFFA menus as per normal (and in my case I selected the Total Replay image on an attached USB stick and rebooted).
3) I can confirm that Total Replay refuses to boot when the FastCHIP //e is active.
4) By de-activating the FastCHIP //e I am able to boot Total Replay.
5) Re-enabling the FastCHIP //e wile still in the Total Replay menu freezes the system and requires a reboot.
6) After starting a game from with Total Replay I am able to re-enable the FastChip //e.
7) Similar to point 1, I am able to get to the VidHD menu by holding CTRL-Reset until the VidHD initialises and the HDMI comes up, then quickly pressing ESC.

Let me know if you need any further specific tests run.

Cheers,
Mike
Re: Total Replay with FastChip, VidHD, CFFA ? [message #386798 is a reply to message #386796] Sun, 08 September 2019 09:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Polymorph <mike.a.stephens@gmail.com> wrote:
> OK, I've just run some tests in my PAL //e

Thank you. You’ve replicated what I’ve been seeing.

John has hypothesised that the aging psu could be causing grief. Do you
have a beefy psu you can use?

I’ve tried Total Replay 2.0 alpha and behaviour has changed. I can now boot
with FastChip //e on. Which is encouraging.

Regards
Andrew
Re: Total Replay with FastChip, VidHD, CFFA ? [message #386808 is a reply to message #386798] Sun, 08 September 2019 19:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sunday, September 8, 2019 at 11:36:53 PM UTC+10, Andrew Roughan wrote:
> Polymorph wrote:
>> OK, I've just run some tests in my PAL //e
>
> Thank you. You’ve replicated what I’ve been seeing.
>
> John has hypothesised that the aging psu could be causing grief. Do you
> have a beefy psu you can use?
>
> I’ve tried Total Replay 2.0 alpha and behaviour has changed. I can now boot
> with FastChip //e on. Which is encouraging.
>
> Regards
> Andrew

Unfortunately I do not have another //e PSU. Whilst I've replaced most of my IIgs power supplies with beefier units, I have kept the //e's as original (apart from replacing a capacitor or two).

Good news that Total Replay 2.0 alpha is booting with the FastCHIP though. I will keep an eye on this.

Cheers,
Mike
Re: Total Replay with FastChip, VidHD, CFFA ? [message #387198 is a reply to message #386570] Fri, 20 September 2019 10:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Jorma Honkanen

This is weird.

The beta version i have Total Replay beta 4 20190709 works with the Fastchip //e enabled just fine.

The latest ones v2.x does not. Just black screen.

Apple //e platinum NTSC
+New Ultimate Universal Power Supply

Slot 1 - Fastchip //e (set up as fast, firmware 0.5b)
Slot 2 - TimeMaster II
Slot 3 - Uthernet II
Slot 4 - MegaAudio
Slot 5 - Empty for CFFA3000 floppy emulation
Slot 6 - Disk II interface
Slot 7 - CFFA3000
AUX - RamWorks IIII+VGA addon
Re: Total Replay with FastChip, VidHD, CFFA ? [message #387199 is a reply to message #386570] Fri, 20 September 2019 10:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Jorma Honkanen

On Saturday, August 31, 2019 at 9:05:46 AM UTC+3, andrew...@writeme.com wrote:
> I've just setup a new system configuration and it is not working for me, so thought I'd see if anyone else has the same configuration working.
>
> Platinum //e (International)
> VidHD in slot 2
> Mouse card in slot 4
> Mockingoard in slot 5
> CFFA in slot 7
> Meg80 in Aux slot (which blocks slot 3)
> The above configuration works fine.
>
> When I add FastChip //e in slot 1, Total Replay does not load. I see a blank screen.
> Yes, I did hold reset for 7 seconds during power on to let the VidHD load.
> I can't re-enter the CFFA menu after reset with this combination either.
>
> I know John has tested VidHD with FastChip //e so i'm thinking that this combination is supported in theory.
>
> Any ideas what is causing the problem?
>
> Thanks,
> Andrew


Andrew, there is some bug in firmware 0.4b as Plamen told me in Textpage 2. I am having the same issues with my 0.5b but i'm hoping to have them (i have older 0.1b firmware card as well) re-flashed and see what happens.
Re: Total Replay with FastChip, VidHD, CFFA ? [message #387476 is a reply to message #387199] Tue, 01 October 2019 04:51 Go to previous message
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Jorma Honkanen <jormahonkanen@gmail.com> wrote:
> Andrew, there is some bug in firmware 0.4b as Plamen told me in Textpage 2.

Plamen elaborated further as follows:

“In old version of firmware have bug with cache of second Text Page. due
this data written on it not copy on slow Ram on computer and not show on
display during show second text page . this cause only visual problem to do
not see any in text page 2 . but consistent of data is not affected.

Firmware is update only with custom programmer.”

My interpretation of this is that it should not cause the problem I was
seeing (TR 1 not working at all).

Regards
Andrew
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